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The other side of the story comes out. The fact that the New York Times is reporting Dunn's side of the story is significant.

As I recall it took them a long time to report Zimmerman's side of events.

1 posted on 11/29/2012 12:52:09 AM PST by marktwain
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Ah, but according to the article, the shotgun hasn’t been found. This doesn’t mean it wasn’t tossed, but we’ll see.


2 posted on 11/29/2012 1:03:35 AM PST by Amberdawn
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Dispute over loud music? = Stupid.

Leave the scene? = Really stupid.

Then, to be tracked down by the police? They charged him with second degree murder. Duh!


3 posted on 11/29/2012 1:15:43 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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Ah, but according to the article, the shotgun hasn’t been found. This doesn’t mean it wasn’t tossed, but we’ll see.


4 posted on 11/29/2012 1:19:18 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: marktwain
The other side of the story comes out. The fact that the New York Times is reporting Dunn's side of the story is significant.

What is significant about it? Everyone has been reporting the story the same way, as soon as his attorney put out a claim of a shot-gun, everyone reported it, so what is the big deal?

Who has been holding anything back? Heck you have been on a long thread that had all kinds of reporting of it, so why pretend that they weren't?

6 posted on 11/29/2012 1:41:09 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb Fischer's successful run in Nebraska)
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We all need to be wary of any story like this that makes Blacks “innocent” during these types of crimes....we know from the George Zimmerman case that the media will lie to cover for Blacks...even at the expense of other minorities

Sad part is that Jack Booted Nazi Thug Angela Corey is the State Atty in Jacksonville (Duval County) and she has another Stand Your Ground victim to prosecute. This one will be a little easier for her as the victim is White


7 posted on 11/29/2012 3:27:38 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Marco Rubio is not a Conservative. "Amnesty Liberals" are never Conservative)
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As the car with the teenagers pulled out, he feared they would try to shoot back, so he fired four more shots, his lawyer said.

Maybe the weakest spot in the case for applying SYG even if the shotgun, or evidence of it, were found. It's unclear at best if SYG should apply to shooting a fleeing assailant. I'm also surprised with that little bitty 9 mm gun someone was badly wounded, let alone killed.

8 posted on 11/29/2012 3:32:19 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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Does anybody on this thread, anybody, think that the first, second, or even last thing going through George Zimmerman's mind, or Michael Dunn's mind, is "I'm protected from murder charges of shooting this @$$#ole who's attacking me by a "Stand Your Ground" law? I'll go ahead and pull the trigger, then get a good lawyer and ask them to use SYG as my defense. Die, scumbag!"

Yep. Sure they do. I would go around looking for perps to blow away if my state had that law. / bitter sarc

11 posted on 11/29/2012 4:39:33 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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Mr. Dunn will probably die in prison. We’ll see what all comes out in the courtroom.

But one lesson might, “might,” just be learned by some of our yutes:

Crazy Old White Guys might just pull out a blaster and shoot your ass if you blast your music too loud in the parking lot.


12 posted on 11/29/2012 4:54:38 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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But she said the shooting bore no resemblance to the case of George Zimmerman, accused of second-degree murder in the death of Mr. Martin.

“There is no racial motivation here whatsoever,” Ms. Lemonidis said. “He would have never, ever, in a million years pulled a gun if his life was not threatened. He saw a shotgun, and four inches of the barrel, and the guy said to him, ‘This is going down now’ and popped the door open.”

There is absolutely no racial motivation in the Trayvon Martin case, as well. To say there is - is a blatant lie.

14 posted on 11/29/2012 5:10:42 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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pointed a shotgun at him through a partly rolled-down window, threatened to kill him and began to open the door.

His story is evolving -- the "threatened to kill him" is new. If the music was so loud how would he hear any threats. And "began to open the door" is also new but the back doors were locked and lock controlled from the front.

His story is evolving -- but his problems are many.

15 posted on 11/29/2012 5:27:10 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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Everyone involved in this story is stupid and lying.


16 posted on 11/29/2012 5:31:51 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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fled the convenience store in his Volkswagen Jetta after the teenagers left because he was afraid they would return,

Sorry but that is a pathetic excuse. If you are afraid go in the store and lock the door. The clerk was already on the phone to the police and if not he should have been.

Was he in any way concerned that the shots that he fired at the vehicle might have gone awry and hit some innocent person in the line of fire???.

19 posted on 11/29/2012 5:39:23 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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But she said the shooting bore no resemblance to the case of George Zimmerman, accused of second-degree murder in the death of Mr. Martin. “There is no racial motivation here whatsoever,” Ms. Lemonidis said.

Hey Ms Lemonididthis, have you been living in a bubble. There was no racial motivation in the Martin case.

The day may soon come when you will wish the facts bore resemblance to the Martin case.

She's grasping at straws here.

22 posted on 11/29/2012 5:45:23 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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I have a hard time believing this story...about the shotgun being pointed out the window...

A car full of teenage wanna be gangsta carrying around a shotgun ?

Considering you can get a handgun dime a dozen in Jacksonville... especially in the hood..

Why would a car full of kids carry around a shotgun?

Me thinks the guy was drunk and did something really stupid and will go to the big house for at manslaughter

27 posted on 11/29/2012 6:10:43 AM PST by Popman
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When he saw the shotgun and heard the threat, Mr. Dunn reached into his glove compartment, unholstered his Taurus 9-millimeter gun and fired two rounds into the back seat, and then two more. As the car with the teenagers pulled out, he feared they would try to shoot back, so he fired four more shots, his lawyer said.

He returned to the hotel, believing no one had been hurt.

He had time to reach into his glove box to get his weapon but not leave?

One has to wonder why he thought firing 8 rounds into a vehicle and no one was hurt ?

He fired 4 more rounds into a vehicle pulling away ?

This is hardly self defense,the way the law is written... more like moronic...

28 posted on 11/29/2012 6:20:20 AM PST by Popman
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To: marktwain; ansel12; wideawake; Uncle Chip
The weeks ahead will shed a lot of light on this issue, however as it stands now there should be little argument that this man seriously messed up. The only question is whether the mess up was due a) to his actions following a legitimate shooting as he defended himself; or b) an unjustified 'hotheaded' shooting that equals major jailtime. It is either or, and in both cases Dunn messed up.

I am pasting a link to an article by Massad Ayoob on the three main mistakes people make after a JUSTIFIED shooting. It would seem Dunn read the article and decided to do exactly as it said - in the inverse.

http://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/3-most-common-post-shooting-errors

44 posted on 11/29/2012 12:17:01 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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If the teenagers really had a shotgun, why didn't they shoot back? They too could have claimed self defense. Instead, they retreated.

BTW, this is nothing like the Zimmerman case.

57 posted on 11/29/2012 3:29:25 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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I have one question on this story. If the music was so loud how did he hear them say anything? This seems to be a odd thing in the story to me.


64 posted on 12/05/2012 12:52:36 PM PST by CONSERVE
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