Posted on 12/01/2012 5:21:08 AM PST by IbJensen
"When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another ..."
So begins the Declaration of Independence of the 13 colonies from the king and country to which they had given allegiance since the settlers first came to Jamestown and Plymouth Rock.
The declaration was signed by 56 angry old white guys who had had enough of what the Cousins were doing to them. In seceding from the mother country, these patriots put their lives, fortunes and honor on the line.
Four score and five years later, 11 states invoked the same right "to dissolve the political bands" of the Union and form a new nation. After 620,000 had perished, the issue of a state's right to secede was settled at Appomattox. If that right had existed, it no longer did.
What are we to make, then, of petitions from 25,000 citizens of each of seven Southern states — 116,000 from Texas alone — to secede?
While no one takes this movement as seriously as men took secession in 1861, the sentiments behind it ought not to be minimized. For they bespeak a bristling hostility to the federal government and a dislike bordering on detestation of some Americans for other Americans, as deep as it was on the day Beauregard's guns fired on Fort Sumter.
Our Pledge of Allegiance still speaks of "one nation under God, indivisible," but that is far from the reality in the America of 2012.
The social, cultural, moral and political revolutions of the 1960s, against which Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan inveighed to win their 49-state triumphs, have now captured half of the country.
One America believes our history is a catalog of crimes against people of color, that women have an inviolable right to abortions, that condoms should be handed out to sexually active teens in schools where Darwinism should be taught as revealed truth, while Bibles, prayers and religious symbols should be permanently expelled.
The other America sees all this as unpatriotic, godless and decadent.
One America believes in equality of rights; the other demands equality of results brought about through the redistribution of income and wealth, affirmative action, racial and gender set-asides, and quotas.
One America believes in gun control; the other in gun rights.
Now that Christmas and Easter have been expunged from public schools and the public square and the popular culture has been thoroughly de-Christianized, we Americans seem to have but one holy day of obligation that brings us all together: Super Bowl Sunday.
Where one America divinizes diversity, the other seeks out our lost unity and community. Half the country pays no federal income taxes, but half depends on federal benefits.
The occasions when we come together as one, as after 9/11 and during natural disasters such as Katrina and Sandy, seem few and farther between, and the resurrected unity rarely lasts.
Could today's America come together to build an interstate highway system or send astronauts to the moon, as we did just seven years after John Glenn first orbited the Earth?
Environmentalists would have killed Ike's highway system and the Hoover and Grand Coulee dams, as today they seek to stop the fracking for oil and natural gas and block the Keystone XL pipeline.
As for states seceding, however, is that really a solution to national disintegration? Tens of millions with Blue State mindsets live in Red State America, and vice versa. While folks in Texas may talk of seceding from the Union, folks in Austin talk of seceding from Texas.
Yet we should take seriously what is behind this desire to separate and sever ties, for it mirrors what is happening across our civilization.
The West is decomposing.
British Tories seek to cut ties to the European Union. Scots want to leave Britain. Catalans vote to divorce from Spain, to which they have been wedded since the 15th century. Flemish talk of leaving Walloons behind in Belgium. Northern Europeans are weary of carrying their profligate southern brethren and muse about cutting Greece adrift and letting it float out into the Mediterranean.
And Americans are already seceding from one another — ethnically, culturally, politically. Middle-class folks flee high-tax California, as Third World immigrants, legal and illegal, pour in to partake of the cornucopia of social welfare benefits the Golden Land dispenses.
High-tax states like New York now send tens of thousands of pension checks to Empire State retirees in tax-free Florida. Communities of seniors are rising that look like replicas of the suburbs of the 1950s. People gravitate toward their own kind. Call it divorce, American-style.
What author William Bishop called "The Big Sort" — the sorting out of people by political beliefs — proceeds. Eighteen states have gone Democratic in six straight presidential elections. A similar number have gone Republican.
"Can we all just get along?" asked Rodney King during the Los Angeles riot of 1992. Well, if we can't, we can at least dwell apart.
After all, it's a big country.
>>Keep the weird in Austin<<
Amen to that! Gotta get off here and be productive.
I’m in the Montgomery co. Texas area, anyone wanna have a meet and greet and discuss along the lines I mentioned...private message me and we’ll set something up.
God bless y’all, thanx for sharing this morning.
SB777
I come from a family—like millions of others—with generations of military service. Ancestors on both sides fought in the War of Independence, ditto the Civil War, as well as WWI, and my father in WWII. My brother and brother-in-law were career military.
I for one, however, would advise against MY son(s) (and certainly daughter(s)) for fighting for an America of: “Gay marriage, abortion, removing God from the public square, surge in child molestations, murders...” (not to mention the persecution of people of conscience, via Obamacare).
I cannot imagine that there aren’t millions out there, just like me.... THE most traditional American families supply our armed forces with their personnel, but who wants their sons to fight for a corrupted, even tyrannical, and actually evil, America?
I kind of like the idea of expulsion over secession. Any way to pull that off?
” When I refer to nut jobs, I’m speaking of the folks that constantly run around spouting off nonsense such as, FEMA camps gonna gas us, oh my gosh, the body bags are in and they are prepared to use them.
Chem trails, fluoride in the water, micro chips...micro chips. 911 was an inside job, Obozo’s satan...and the like.”
I guess I am not allowed to say some things, lest I make the moderator work harder here, but yes I do have the above on one of my short lists.......
I am a Son of Confederate Veterans and trace heritage back to the Revolutionary War.
Damn proud of it.
This post was not meant to offend. Just looking for level headed folks...not an attempt to squelch free expression.
No worries, it’s me, not you. I’ve been a little to far to the right for the admin this morning it appears. But I don’t see any way out for the US except a hot civil war and to recognize the enemy within.
Not everyone owns a gun, but everybody has to eat.
The retribution the Feds will put on the secessionists would be as merciless as what Lincoln did to the South. The commies view us as more of an enemy than radical Islam and will gladly kill all of us to establish their comme paradise. Stalin, Mao, and all commie thugs killed anyone that opposed their philosophy. Don’t think it could not happen here!
For the most of Texas, Austin has been more or less a twenty-something amusement park.
None took Austin serious although it usually PO’s lots.
People who were considered nut jobs at the time, constantly running around spouting off nonsense:
Sophie and Hans Scholl who warned that the German people might become “...forever the nation hated and rejected by all mankind”. They were guillotined for their nuttiness.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn who warned about the dangers of Communist aggression and the weakening of the moral fiber of the West. He was expelled from the Soviet Union and the KGB tried to assassinate him for his nuttiness.
Tecumseh who warned that the white men were not friends to the Indians. He died at the Battle of the Thames as a result of his nuttiness.
I’m very proud of my military heritage too; I even have a direct ancestor who died as a British POW in the War of Independence. That’s my point though. If America has voluntarily ceased to be the land of the free and home of the brave, why should we fight for her now and in the future?
Why should we fight to defend and support an Obama-America? To me it makes as much sense as offering to fight and die for the Occupier-protest-gang.
You’re right.
Had I lived during the time of the American civil war there is no doubt as to which side I would join!
Contrary to popular opinion, Lincoln was absolutely NOT a great president. He was the force behind the attempted annihilation of the south, especially Georgia!
You’d have to drag them all out of their government offices, including the oval one, kicking, screaming and then toss them into the Potomac!
Rather like substituting them for bales of tea.
Imagine if the only problem confronting America and the decent element of society was simply tea.
“Stalin, Mao, and all commie thugs killed anyone that opposed their philosophy. Don’t think it could not happen here!”
The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression. 850 pages of places where it simply couldn’t happen.
BTW, God Bless Texas.
“This will not happen until Americans have little else to lose.”
But the question is, what will trigger this situation? In fact there are numerous possibilities. Financial collapse because of a debt crisis resulting in benefit cuts, nationalization of IRAs, market collapse with freezing accounts.
Other triggers could include further restriction of gun rights or confiscation, elimination of first amendment, media censorship.
The problems is that resistance initially would not likely to be organized and many patriots would needlessly die.
I think that we need to continue to prep, organize patriot groups to these ends, establish our rural redoubts, and work out an emergency local and regional communication network with friendlies before the SHTF. We also need some type of consensus as to exactly what would be the first sign of the SHTF. Timing is everything.
“Contrary to popular opinion, Lincoln was absolutely NOT a great president. He was the force behind the attempted annihilation of the south, especially Georgia!”
History is written by the winners. Fair warning: FR has a lot of lincoln apologists.
No, Austin citizens have the right to secede from Texas if Texas has the right to secede from the Union. Of course, Texas can build a border-fence around Austin and charge import/export duties to anything and everything that crosses that border!
I say all should be free to determine their own destiny!
Figures. My mother-in-law is visiting that day.
I was thinking more along the lines of all the blue counties.
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