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U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands
NYT ^ | 12/5/2012 | JAMES RISEN, MARK MAZZETTI and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT

Posted on 12/05/2012 2:44:51 PM PST by mojito

The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar last year, but American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants, according to United States officials and foreign diplomats.

No evidence has emerged linking the weapons provided by the Qataris during the uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi to the attack that killed four Americans at the United States diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, in September.

But in the months before, the Obama administration clearly was worried about the consequences of its hidden hand in helping arm Libyan militants, concerns that have not previously been reported. The weapons and money from Qatar strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to become a destabilizing force since the fall of the Qaddafi government.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdullahalthani; alhalabi; althani; aziz; benghazi; benghazigate; benghaziweapons; jessejackson; libya; malaga; malagacf; marbella; michelleobama; navyseals; obama; qaradawi; qatar; salmanbinabdulaziz
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So Zero had a policy of arming alQaida in Libya. Wouldn't that have been interesting to know in say, October?
1 posted on 12/05/2012 2:44:56 PM PST by mojito
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To: mojito

Fast and furious 2


2 posted on 12/05/2012 2:46:34 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: mojito

President Biden would be an improvement.


3 posted on 12/05/2012 2:50:25 PM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: mojito

I wonder how long it wii take before we hear about training and arming rebels Ito fight in Syria.


4 posted on 12/05/2012 2:58:13 PM PST by TBall
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To: mojito

That would have made a heck of a campaign commercial if Mittens had had the guts. Barack Obama thinks American Citizens DON’T have the right to bear arms but will freely give away automatic weapons to Mexican drug lords or Al Qaeda associated groups.


5 posted on 12/05/2012 2:59:58 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: mojito

Like FAST and FURIOUS (supported by the US Congress
apparently), these weapons were delivered to
kill Americans by the score (here by the hundreds).

Obama and Holder and Clinton have as much contempt
for Americans as they do for ... what was once
the US Constitution.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 3:01:41 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: mojito

NOW they tell us.

But then most of us already suspected this.


7 posted on 12/05/2012 3:07:25 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: Diogenesis

Somewhere, hidden in the bowels of some ones basement(probably George Soros) there is a gameplan for the UN to become a one world government.

What is taking place is the systematic dismantling of human liberty and morality.

It’s like the movie War Games. Scenarios have been run to make what is happening now globally a reality. I just wonder what’s going to happen when they come for our guns.


8 posted on 12/05/2012 3:07:37 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldstein of the modern era.)
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To: mojito
Well, well. The New York Times is printing a story that shines a negative light on the administration and its dealing with Libya.

And will you look at that? The story is coming out nearly one month, to the day, AFTER the election.

Quite the coincidence.

9 posted on 12/05/2012 3:08:26 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: mojito
But in the months before, the Obama administration clearly was worried about the consequences of its hidden hand in helping arm Libyan militants, concerns that have not PREVIOUSLY BEEN REPORTED.

That would only be because The Times has not reported it.

There are many of us who have known this for months.

10 posted on 12/05/2012 3:11:00 PM PST by what's up
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To: mojito

It was known. Maybe NOT by you, and I, but it was known within the system. You can’t keep that stuff under wraps. Somebody knew, and was CS to open up, or “leak” it to the appropriate press.

This is a thug government we have today.


11 posted on 12/05/2012 3:11:31 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: mojito

Ah... now with the election safely in Obama`s hip pocket, NYT slips and actually reports the truth.


12 posted on 12/05/2012 3:14:28 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: mojito

mojito~:” The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar last year, but American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants, according to United States officials and foreign diplomats.”

Too bad none of the weapons used in Benghazi were left behind so that they could be traced back to see if they oringinated from the US/Qatar supply system.
Maybe thats what the 27 day delay to getting the Dept. of “Just-Us” investigators there was all about : delay while the location gets santized .
At least in “ Fast and Furious “ weapons were dropped so as to not link the killing weapon to the user ; no such concern or fear exists , especially in the 27 day delay since the Benghazi attack .


13 posted on 12/05/2012 3:17:55 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: mojito
“To do this right, you have to have on-the-ground intelligence and you have to have experience,” said Vali Nasr, a former State Department adviser

Haha. A not-so-subtle dig at the Community Organizer's very shallow background.

14 posted on 12/05/2012 3:19:01 PM PST by what's up
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To: mojito; windcliff
But in the months before, the Obama administration clearly was worried about the consequences of its hidden hand in helping arm Libyan militants being revealed before the election.

I added a few words they seem to have left out.

15 posted on 12/05/2012 3:20:18 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: mojito
“American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants”

FLASH!!! Nuts thrown into the woods are being eaten by squirrels....

16 posted on 12/05/2012 3:21:23 PM PST by unread (Eagles don't eat flys...)
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To: mojito

There was no US approval.

This was an ILLEGAL WAR (use their terms!) and President Obama ordered weapons be given to rebels.

The American people and Congress had nothing to do with this.


17 posted on 12/05/2012 3:22:25 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Maybe thats what the 27 day delay to getting the Dept. of “Just-Us” investigators there was all about

That seems a pretty reasonable assumption.

18 posted on 12/05/2012 3:25:09 PM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: mojito

Since we’re arming the drug cartels, we might as well arm the Jihadi’s, too. After all, redisribution is the apex of fairness, isn’t it? The depths of this administration’s corruption and incompetence are still unchartered.


19 posted on 12/05/2012 3:26:55 PM PST by Spok
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To: MestaMachine

From the NY Times. Benghazi ping?


20 posted on 12/05/2012 3:27:17 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: mojito

Having armed Al Qaeda in Libya to overthrow Ghaddafi

0bama next moved to ship those same arms to Al Qaeda in Syria to overthrow Assad.

That’s a cover-up big enough to kill Americans and keep anyone else who knows quaking in their boots.

Lots of people know what was going on. They’ve seen 0bama have people killed to protect the Al Qaeda arms running racket.

Who wants to speak up and be the next to be inconveniently DEAD?


21 posted on 12/05/2012 3:27:49 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: mojito
The Obama administration secretly gave its blessing to arms shipments to Libyan rebels from Qatar last year, but American officials later grew alarmed as evidence grew that Qatar was turning some of the weapons over to Islamic militants, according to United States officials and foreign diplomats.

Baloney. If you get your news here, you knew from almost day one that the "rebels" included Al Qaeda commanders and jihadists from all over the known universe.

Now they are acting shocked! shocked! that their weapons went to the jihadists, blaming Qatar no less, all the while they are recruiting those same jihadists and sending them on to Syria for Libya Two.

22 posted on 12/05/2012 3:28:32 PM PST by marron
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To: Erik Latranyi
Libya will look like a walk in the park compared to Syria. Yet another Illegal War being run by Obama/Clinton.

USS Eisenhower Has Arrived Off The Coast Of Syria To Send A Clear Message

23 posted on 12/05/2012 3:28:53 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: mojito

Just like Qaddaffi said.

We helped the underdog jihadists in Libya.

We helped the underdog jihadists in Egypt.

We are thinking about helping the underdog jihadists in Syria.

The underdog insurrection in Iran aimed at jihadists we watched die on the streets.

The pattern is really easy to spot.


24 posted on 12/05/2012 3:29:11 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Not so "commanding", not so "inevitable".)
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To: mojito

What did the NYT know and when did they know it?


25 posted on 12/05/2012 3:29:18 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (BOHICA eGOP!)
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To: mojito
No evidence has emerged linking the weapons provided by the Qataris during the uprising against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi to the attack that killed four Americans at the United States diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, in September.

Sounds like the NYT is being proactive in protecting Obama from the facts that are bound to eventually leak out.

26 posted on 12/05/2012 3:32:07 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Erik Latranyi

ho hum, another impeachable offense


27 posted on 12/05/2012 3:32:55 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: mojito

Give toys to Islamists, and they will share them with other terrorists.


28 posted on 12/05/2012 3:34:35 PM PST by pallis
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To: mojito

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/Uh_Yeah.mp3


29 posted on 12/05/2012 3:35:07 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: mojito

I surmise these would be the same Libyan Islamist who killed Chris Stevens and the three other Americans in Benghazi. Wouldn’t any reasonable American call that treason and wouldn’t such treason be worthy of execution for the arming, aiding and abetting an enemy that murdered a US official? Not to worry though, our elected officials (McAmesty, Grahmnesty and Die Freakenstein) will get to the bottom of this treasonous act by this anti-American fraud currently in the WH. All is good.


30 posted on 12/05/2012 3:40:12 PM PST by drypowder
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To: mojito
Fell Into Islamist Hands

What other hands were there to receive them? Anyone who believes 0bama isn't purposely arming fundamentalist jihadis is an idiot.

31 posted on 12/05/2012 3:40:59 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: mojito
The election is over, so the powers that be don't particularly care if the sheep now contemplate just how safe any commercial flight anywhere in the world is, what with US-supplied ground-to-air missiles being moved around - in quantity - in an Islamist shell game.

"Which shell is the missile under? Make your bet!"

Mr. niteowl77

32 posted on 12/05/2012 3:41:44 PM PST by niteowl77 (Getting stuck with other peoples' just desserts good and hard for over 50 years.)
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To: Psalm 144

They are also against the recent uprising in Egypt trying to overthrow the Muslim Brotherhood. And we have verified that the US was supplying arming and training to the Jihadi insurgents in Syria. Even Clinton admitted that and of course acted surprised about a month or two before the election. We are still waiting for confirmation of weapons being shipped from Libya to the Syrian Insurgents, but all indications are that arms were shipped. This all of course opens the barn door to allow Russia and China to do the same.


33 posted on 12/05/2012 3:42:12 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: mojito

Still Bush’s fault.


34 posted on 12/05/2012 3:44:12 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: mojito
Whouda thunk it? July 21, 2011

I hope you're not waiting for the MSM to tell you the truth about anything.

Pat Caddell called it. Do you believe it yet?

Pat Caddell slams the media: They have become an “enemy of the people” Sept. 29, 2012(video 26:00)

Emotional Pat Caddell on the MSM ignoring Benghazi: “These people have no honor!” Oct. 27, 2012 (video at link 4:06)

The Media are enemies of the people!

35 posted on 12/05/2012 3:48:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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It is not lying and covering up.. it's "concerns that have not previously been reported."

Obama did not provide arms to Al Qaeda. Relying on surrogates did it! Obama had little leverage at times over the surrogates. And you cannot prove that it's Obama's fault. Blame American arms dealer[s] hounding the surrogates to buy weapons.

“The president made the point to the [surrogates] that we needed transparency about what Qatar was doing in Libya.” See! Obama cares.

Even Mahmoud Jibril, then the prime minister of the Libyan transitional government complained about those darn surrogates arm[ing] extremist groups opposed to the new leadership.

The surrogates wanted to ship American weapons in their possession.. The administration rejected that request, but instead urged the [surrogates] to ship weapons to Libya that could not be traced to the United States. “The [surrogate] was asking for clearance to send U.S. weapons,” said one former official. “We told them it’s O.K. to ship other weapons.” D'oh! How did that direct connection to Obama get left in the article.. Editor!

The [surrogates], the official added, are “supposedly good allies, but the Islamists they support are not in our interest.” Golly we were flabbergasted Administration officials said.

And that evil American arms dealer, darn him.. he sold weapons to one of the surrogates and “They just handed them out like candy.”

So in conclusion it is the Nytimese unbiased, nonpartisan opinion that it is not PRESIDENT! Obama's fault and you can't prove it is.

36 posted on 12/05/2012 3:51:37 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: TigersEye
RE: The Media are enemies of the people!

.. and most media employees are skid marks on Journalism's shorts.

37 posted on 12/05/2012 3:54:27 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

They aren’t journalists in any way shape or form.


38 posted on 12/05/2012 4:02:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: mojito

We are one dumb country.


39 posted on 12/05/2012 4:11:44 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: mojito

They’re ALL Muzzies....They have this tribal mentality and as long as that is the case....NOTHING will change.


40 posted on 12/05/2012 4:25:53 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
So what's new, slimes?

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

41 posted on 12/05/2012 4:39:06 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: mojito

America almost Sh*t when Reagan armed the Contra’s who were Freedom Fighters, but Obama arming Al Quaeda is just fine.

Th media never even mentioned it.

Al Quaeda no longer needs Osama Bin Laden, they have a greater friend now Osama bin Obama.


42 posted on 12/05/2012 4:51:34 PM PST by Venturer
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To: mojito

HuH??? The rebeles are the Izlamists...Who doesn’t know that??? Same in Egypt and Syria...


43 posted on 12/05/2012 4:54:14 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: mojito

Well, duh !


44 posted on 12/05/2012 4:59:07 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Psalm 144; Uncle Miltie

Just like Qaddaffi said.

We helped the underdog jihadists in Libya.

We helped the underdog jihadists in Egypt.

We are thinking about helping the underdog jihadists in Syria.

The underdog insurrection in Iran aimed at jihadists we watched die on the streets.

The pattern is really easy to spot.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yep. Now, talking points are being lined up for Syria intervention.

First, chemical weapons in Syria. Now today:

Syria loads chemical weapons into bombs; military awaits Assad’s order [NYT]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2966016/posts

Does that mean that now that the MB and Al Qaeda are in place and fortified, US/NATO must go in and help this endangered and suffering population so that they can depose Assad and hold a democratic election?


45 posted on 12/05/2012 5:03:57 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

That’s the truth.


46 posted on 12/05/2012 5:08:52 PM PST by windcliff
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

If the FBI had stayed more than 3 hours on site, and had done their job, they could have collected schrappenel and had metalurgical studies on the fragments and determined where the weapons originated. If they were ours, then we can conclude that obama armed the branch of al Quadea who used our arms to kill our people. Thanks obama. We will never be told the truth.


47 posted on 12/05/2012 5:38:55 PM PST by Texas Songwriter ( i)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
NOW they tell us.""""""">........

They figured we couldn't handle "information overload". Yes, many of us figured this out the first week. Now waiting until they show up on the Mexican border and into the U.S.

48 posted on 12/05/2012 5:47:03 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Diogenesis

BTTT!


49 posted on 12/05/2012 6:12:58 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: mojito
Dead Men Tell No Tales... ( and provide no links connecting weapons to atacks just before an election)
50 posted on 12/05/2012 6:27:37 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get $7....LOL !)
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