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Obama administration investigating sergeant who said the Bible condemns homosexuality
http://www.lifesitenews.com ^ | December 7, 2012 | Kirsten Andersen

Posted on 12/09/2012 8:09:40 AM PST by NKP_Vet

The U.S. Department of Education (DOE) has launched a federal investigation over a conversation between a Huntsville JROTC instructor and a lesbian student about the Bible and homosexuality.

Last April, Virgil Grissom High School student Taylor Sisk, 15, asked a local homosexual activist to file a complaint on her behalf after 1st Sgt. Lynn Vanzandt allegedly told her that he believed the Bible says homosexuality is a sin. It is unclear how the conversation began.

Sisk, who leads her school’s Gay-Straight Alliance club, claimed she was talking to another girl about wanting to live in San Francisco when Vanzandt made his remarks. Other witnesses have said the girls directly asked Vanzandt his opinion on homosexuality. Sisk claimed they then asked him to stop talking about it and, when he refused, her friend ran crying from the room.

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To: kabumpo

I never said that it wasn’t sexual, but it is not SEX. Sex is a specific thing. In response to your second post, yes, performing such acts with children is wrong. Performing them with adults is not.


81 posted on 12/09/2012 2:26:10 PM PST by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: nothingnew

I guess Bill Clinton is trolling FR today.


82 posted on 12/09/2012 2:30:10 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: arderkrag

If it is sexual, then it is sex. There is more than one sex act. If doing can bring a person to ejaculation/orgasm, then it is s e x.


83 posted on 12/09/2012 3:06:15 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

Yep, a lot of Liberturdians think that is where it should go eventually, even if they know they should never say this in public. You can find stuff like that deep in libertarian boards where they preach to the choir.


84 posted on 12/09/2012 3:54:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: arderkrag

You mean its not intercourse?

Why didn’t you just say so?

lolz


85 posted on 12/09/2012 4:06:19 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Thank you for writing. I truly despise Libertarians more than any other group, including Jihadists, because Libertarians are the most amoral and most dishonest. I wish that all of them could be purged from FR, because their philosophy and goals are inimical to Conservatism.


86 posted on 12/09/2012 4:15:41 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: The Grammarian
"Protestants say that all sins are equally wrong, and Catholics (and presumably Orthodox as well) say that sexual sin is of the venial sort."

Not so. The Catholic Church teaches that sins against the Faith, against Life, and against Sexuality are always "grave matter". Which means, objectively serious. They constitute mortal sins subjectively (as applied to you), if you did them knowingly and willingly.

87 posted on 12/09/2012 4:30:30 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of correction.)
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To: kabumpo

BUMP!!


88 posted on 12/09/2012 4:33:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Sherman Logan
It's true that there are any number of sins, and not all of them seem to be hot buttons right now. For instance you hardly hear a sermon about usury nowadays, which is really a shame because that's actually a seriously destructive thing, condemned by the Prophets of Israel and the Fathers of the Church.

However pseudogamy is a current hot button for a pretty good reason, because it's at the point of being repackaged, relabeled, and mass-marketed as a postive good, meriting legal valorization, social celebration, and the honors of the altar.

At least ruinous moneylending isn't being promoted as a quasi-sacrament; and nobody's gong to be prosecuted for hate-speech if they say "Don't be a filthy usurer," "Don't screw people with debt."

89 posted on 12/09/2012 4:39:24 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of correction.)
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To: GeronL

ALL the sexual sins are taught in schools as normal. ALL of them.


90 posted on 12/09/2012 4:44:58 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of correction.)
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To: NKP_Vet

So speaking the truth gets one investigated?


91 posted on 12/09/2012 4:47:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: arderkrag; GeronL
It's a sin to seek sexual stimulation or gratification outside of marriage, period. By any means whatsoever.

Jesus was uncompromising on this. He said it's a sin even to LOOK for purposes of lust, i.e. for intentional arousal: it's adultery in the heart.

92 posted on 12/09/2012 4:50:27 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of correction.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

bump

I agree.


93 posted on 12/09/2012 4:54:02 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: kabumpo

No, it isn’t, unless you honestly want to argue that masturbation is sex, at which point, I’l simply laugh at you.


94 posted on 12/09/2012 4:56:05 PM PST by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Amen.

And a grown man knows this, feels this.

Rutting adolescents probably just wander off to rationalize thier weakness.

95 posted on 12/09/2012 4:56:51 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: arderkrag

Do you have a special room, complete with accoutrements, where you build all your rationalizations?


96 posted on 12/09/2012 4:58:46 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Genesis 38 contains the only contracepted sexual act described the Bible; and referring to the perpetrator, the Bible says "And therefore the Lord slew him, because he did a detestable thing."

Can't get much stronger than that. But there's virtually no preaching against contraception in any of the churches. Anywhere.

97 posted on 12/09/2012 4:58:53 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of correction.)
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To: arderkrag

Laugh all you want, but of course masturbation is sex, and is a constant feature of pornographic movies, “money shot” and all.


98 posted on 12/09/2012 4:59:15 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: arderkrag
"oral stimulation outside of sex"

???

You mean kissing?

We all kiss babies.

But we don't kiss them to cause genital arousal, in them or in ourselves. That's the difference. Sexual arousal is only right with your spouse. But I'm guessing everybody probably knows that.

99 posted on 12/09/2012 5:04:15 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of correction.)
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To: kabumpo

Riiiiigghht. Well, have fun in whatever strange world you live in where you can have sexual intercourse by yourself.


100 posted on 12/09/2012 5:19:02 PM PST by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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