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Women in combat a really, really bad idea
Renew America ^ | 12-7-12 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 12/11/2012 5:41:35 PM PST by ReformationFan

America's daughters should not be sent into combat. Period.

Part of the reason is philosophical: we want to live in a nation where we expect men to use their strength to protect the women in their world, not the other way round.

But there are immensely practical reasons as well. God simply did not design women to have the same size, upper body strength, or stamina as men. It's just plain stupid to ignore this biological fact of nature.

The Washington Post, for instance, recently ran a story on the "throwing gap" between men and women, which has stubbornly persisted for the half-century that brain-numbed researchers have been exploring it. Girls age 14-18 throw only 39% as far as boys.

Although the Post never makes this connection, this fact is no longer an idle curiosity when the issue at hand is not throwing rocks or baseballs but things that explode. Reports from the Marine training base at Parris Island indicate that only 45% of female Marines could throw a hand grenade far enough to keep from blowing themselves up. If you're in a foxhole with a woman about to toss one of those, you're not sure whether to treat her as friend or foe. It's one thing to fall on a grenade thrown by the enemy. It's quite another to have a grenade thrown by a friendly fall on you.

The Marines are trying to defy logic, common sense, biology, and the Laws of Nature and Nature's God by admitting women into its Infantry Officer Course. Only two of the 80 eligible female Marines volunteered for the course this year. One washed out on the first day, and the second had to drop out within two weeks for "medical reasons," most likely some muscular or skeletal injury.

(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.com ...


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To: Noamie; SkyDancer
You’re missing his point and, by over-dramatizing with the bs kitchen comment, proving a part of his point.

Women in "combat" are more likely to be impregnated than they are shot and killed by the enemy.

41 posted on 12/11/2012 8:00:13 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I wonder if Miss Lynch ever later commented on whether she ever regretted joining the military after her horrific experience?


42 posted on 12/11/2012 8:00:48 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: SkyDancer

Okay, so why does the aircraft in the bottom picture have a bulldozer as a “kill” marking?


43 posted on 12/11/2012 8:05:16 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Repeat Offender; Noamie; SkyDancer
In all of OIF, 124 women were killed

While in Iraq, during the course of ONE deployment, 1BTB, 3d ID had IVO 28 pregnancies......that's ONE unit during ONE deployment that had nearly one quarter as many pregnancies as the total number of women KIW in 8 years of war. Where did I get the number 28? My ex-wife was in that unit during that deployment.

Just so no one accuses me of saying get me a sammich and talking out my ass.

44 posted on 12/11/2012 8:12:02 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Noamie; SkyDancer; Repeat Offender
A single (one) American female GI was killed as a result of enemy fire in Vietnam, she was a nurse who was hit by a piece of shrapnel from a mortar shell while doing hospital duty, when the base was attacked by a commando, or terrorist attack.

She was Army Lt. Sharon Lane. I don't know how many female soldiers the public has seen die in Vietnam from shows like 'China Beach'.

""During the early hours of June 8, a Soviet-built, 122-mm rocket slammed into Ward 4 of the hospital. A piece of shrapnel ripped through Lane's aorta, killing her instantly. She died just one month short of her 26th birthday.

Lane is the only American servicewoman killed as a direct result of hostile fire during the Vietnam War.""

45 posted on 12/11/2012 8:12:51 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: Repeat Offender

KIW=KIA


46 posted on 12/11/2012 8:13:09 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: ReformationFan
Lynch said she and her brother Greg had always wanted to serve in the Army, and that she needed money for college. Lynch said she never thought she would be in a combat situation, but shortly after Lynch enlisted in 2001, Sept. 11 changed everything. "If I had known what was going to happen, things would have turned out differently and I would have just gone to college," she said. Despite everything, Lynch said she would still join the Army and has "no regrets." - Jessica Lynch: 'No Regrets'
47 posted on 12/11/2012 8:16:04 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ReformationFan

A rapid solution - start a random number draft of girls 18-30 for the front lines of combat to serve in Syria, Libya and whatever Muslim nation Obama chooses to invade. If half the ground forces are female, then it is fair, and we’re less likely to be seen as horrific invaders.
With 19 year old airheads and 29 year old feminist career gals drafted, you’ll see a lot more women saying, “No, leave it to the guys.”


48 posted on 12/11/2012 8:17:00 PM PST by tbw2
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To: ansel12; Noamie; SkyDancer
A single (one) American female GI was killed as a result of enemy fire in Vietnam, she was a nurse who was hit by a piece of shrapnel from a mortar shell while doing hospital duty, when the base was attacked by a commando, or terrorist attack.

I believe SkyDancer confused Vietnam with Iraq insofar as the number of women KIA. There were 124 women KIA in Iraq.....I provided the link in my last post.

49 posted on 12/11/2012 8:17:53 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Teacher317

It’s a fight for survival. And the Israelis had a great solution to the problem of Muslims attacking buses full of kids. They put women with guns on them.
And the U.S. would do more for its security to have armed mothers walking kids to school, riding every school bus and all the public transportation to take out potential terrorists and threats than TSA’s antics.


50 posted on 12/11/2012 8:22:34 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Teacher317
People target shooting makes the point?

Really, this is combat ready because they can shoot guns?

Any of us can shoot the enemy after you get us there, what keeps us old vets from being to do that, is that we can't carry 100 pound packs up the side of an 11,000 foot mountain, to get to where the shooting needs to done.

You bring them to us and we old male vets will show you pretty skilled, pretty spirited, but bloody limited soldiers, we can be compensated for in garrison, but we can't keep up with the young guys in the mountains anymore.

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51 posted on 12/11/2012 8:26:09 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: SkyDancer

8 women subject to the UCMJ were killed, all commisioned nurses. I DO honor their service and sacrifice. Dont count civillian journalists and the like in THIS discussion.


52 posted on 12/11/2012 10:34:38 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: unixfox

There are many things women can do—and have done for ages—cooking for one, wash, nursing, supply, mending etc... But fighting isn’t one of them. This has been tried many times in the past Israel, USSR, most recently. It never works well. Today—America only fights weak nations that must resort of Improvised Explosives to cause damage. BUT if we were to fight a real enemy—with a modern army—maybe one with better weapons— we would be in a heap of trouble. Women on the battlefield wouldn’t face a pretty fate when captured and sold as sex slaves. I read that in a war game recently—US Navy vs the Spanish Airforce—the Spanish won! We have become lax and arrogant —that will catch up to us someday real soon.


53 posted on 12/11/2012 10:38:03 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: DMZFrank; SkyDancer

Eight military nurses died, but only one was related to a hostile enemy act, the rest were accidents, one illness, and one stroke.


54 posted on 12/11/2012 11:02:53 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: ReformationFan
This makes way too much sense for many in today's world to understand.

Many of the "many" are people who picked up the notion that boot camp has little or nothing to do with the skills needed to soldier in the field. The types who think that boot camp is all about "domination," or breaking soldiers to the harness, with the tasks themselves being ancillary to the purportedly main purpose.

That's the type who thinks that the training standards are "arbitrary" - i.e., have little or nothing to do with skills needed on the field when soldiering.

There are lots of people like that about. Granted that they tend to be civvies and/or bookworms, but they have influence in Congress.

55 posted on 12/11/2012 11:28:46 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: M-cubed

They should trump all this and propose mandatory registration in selective service for women. That would get all the feminists to kill the whole thing.


56 posted on 12/12/2012 1:36:26 AM PST by madameguinot
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To: Finny

The way I see it, it is both by design and unintentional.

They really believe in their hearts that it will make the military better, and like most liberal concepts, that is all that really counts.

But I do believe most of them wish we didn’t have a military, so the money wouldn’t be “wasted” and could be used on their social programs, so...in their minds, if it works, great. If it destroys the capabilities...even better.


57 posted on 12/12/2012 3:27:37 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: ansel12
"...Well said, it also explains why I have never seen a woman take over in a biker bar..."

Hey! I have seen a woman take on 20 muscular biker guys in a bar in a movie, so I know it is fact!

58 posted on 12/12/2012 3:31:14 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: SkyDancer; rlmorel

That’s nice.

Now explain how your pictures either support or contradict rlmorel’s Post 6.


59 posted on 12/12/2012 3:36:30 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SkyDancer
"...Basically what I see is the trashing of women serving their country..."

Skydancer, you see it that way, because that is the prism through which you see the situation, which is expected, I would think. It is, however, no such thing.

It the policy that is wrong, not necessarily the women being instruments of that policy, with one caveat: If a woman is knowingly leveraging affirmative action gender policies to gain footholds in areas she is not qualified for, then that person does indeed deserve the malediction of those who protect our country and those who support them.

And there is a difference between the ones who deserve criticism and the ones who don't.

The bottom line is, when we find a division of our our troops in -20 degree weather, encircled by ten enemy divisions in a godforsaken battlefield, there won't be any distinction between women who leveraged affirmative action policies to gain command or power, and a woman in a trench somewhere, except the woman in the trench, the other men and women around her, and our country's national security are all going to take it up the tail pipe, both literally and figuratively.

The men and women who pushed the concept of having women as front line troops will not only be spared that, but will, in all likelihood, be the ones screaming the loudest and pointing fingers looking for culprits.

And they will skate.

60 posted on 12/12/2012 3:48:43 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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