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The Sandy Hook Murders: What To Do?
PowerLine ^ | 15 December 2012 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 12/16/2012 1:17:28 AM PST by zeestephen

If we are going to take mass shootings as an occasion to infringe constitutional rights, the most effective place to start would be the FIRST Amendment [Freedom of the Press].

(Excerpt) Read more at powerlineblog.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; guns; sandyhook; sandyhookgundefense; sandyhookgungraphic; sandyhookisrael; sandyhookshooting; secondamendment
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John Hinderaker:

"Within the realm of constitutional options, the most practical remedy I can think of would be to require that a certain number of teachers or administrators in each school be trained in the use of firearms and armed at all times."

1 posted on 12/16/2012 1:17:36 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
An elementary school in Israel.
2 posted on 12/16/2012 1:20:04 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

While I agree that the news coverage of these horrors doesn’t really help to prevent other twisted people from being inspired to copycat...
It’s still a reactive fix.
I want a more proactive fix:

Arm more good guys.


3 posted on 12/16/2012 1:50:52 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: zeestephen
Why are so many Israeli women hotter than Bessemer furnace?
4 posted on 12/16/2012 1:53:17 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: zeestephen

I think what the liberals overlook is *why* people want to own guns and *why* so many are ardent supporters of the 2nd amendment.

They don’t trust government. Maybe that’s a start. Why don’t people trust government.


5 posted on 12/16/2012 2:02:41 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why are so many Israeli women hotter than Bessemer furnace?

Man! Yer not kidding!
I'm hypothesizing that carrying all that firepower keeps their bodies in trim shape.
Modified aerobics.
Think, "ARMEDrobics."
6 posted on 12/16/2012 2:10:41 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: zeestephen

My first instinct is to intitiate the most thorough investigation of psychotropic drugs in history. The suicide rates in the military and every one of these insane shootings have these drugs in some way connected to them.
They suppress the brain’s natural inhibitions, shut off the conscience, and allow those taking them to act out their anger without any feeling of guilt or remorse. They depress normal emotions and magnify anger with no protection as a buffer to stop them from letting their rage explode into absolute madness. They treat normal emotions as abnormal, medicate them, and never ever get to the reasons for those feelings. Rather they suppress them and treat the symptoms instead of the problems which only causes worse problems.
There are intermediate bouts of rage and finally an overload.
Psychiatry and psychology are guilty of malfeasance and should never be in charge of deciding what constitutes ‘mental illness’.


7 posted on 12/16/2012 2:24:03 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: zeestephen
I've read headlines describing the shooter as a goth, mentally disturbed, autistic, violent loner who posted threats on-line. This sounds similar to the description of the pink haired Batman movie shooter. I suggest instead of banning firearms we focus on banning goth, mentally disturbed, autistic, violent loner types who post on-line rants about killing people.
8 posted on 12/16/2012 2:25:06 AM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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The suicide rates in the military

The rates in the military are lower than comparable general populations. If you wanted to be precise about it, you could refer to the rise in military suicide rates, but you would have to adjust for other factors besides the psychotropic drug factor.

9 posted on 12/16/2012 2:31:19 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Usagi_yo

I think another FReeper posted a few weeks ago, “I don’t trust a Government that doesn’t trust me”.

I think that says it all and it may end up being a Bumper Sticker on my car in the near future.


10 posted on 12/16/2012 2:33:50 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (They Live, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses...)
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To: Casie
banning goth, mentally disturbed, autistic, violent loner types

We should hold their enablers responsible. The mother in this case even though she is dead. In Aurora it was the college professor shrink whose role was quickly hushed up after she ignored the written and verbal threats. At VA Tech it was the parents who shipped their kid to college instead of treatment.

11 posted on 12/16/2012 2:36:32 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: RandallFlagg

Maybe it’s because Israel is really not wealthy on anything but brain power, and its citizens do not live for stuffing their faces.


12 posted on 12/16/2012 2:42:42 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: zeestephen

My prayer is that some school administrators and school parents have seen the threat and taken the actions which will protect the students not based on what has already taken place but actions which were put in place many years ago with armed, numerous armed, teachers and parents or grandparent going in and out on a rotating basis, all under the radar. If not, and the trend of attacking schools continues, there is no chance without having armed people in place to give the innocent a chance. A prayer common sense measures are in place in a whole host of local and there are those at the ready if the necessity should arise.


13 posted on 12/16/2012 2:45:24 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: palmer

40 years ago, many of these mass murderers would have been routinely institutionalized BEFORE they became a threat.


14 posted on 12/16/2012 2:54:29 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Yes, there is ample evidence that the families are afraid of these children. They would like someone else to take over, but there are no more institutions to do so. So the kids fail to find a job, sit around and obsess, and practice shooting, and the parents go along with it.


15 posted on 12/16/2012 2:59:52 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: no-to-illegals

I hope we address the mental health angle as well as guns. And we should loudly turn the argument back on Hollywood and the video makers for the violence in films and games. Please don’t let the libs control the discussion and make it ONLY be about guns.


16 posted on 12/16/2012 3:02:26 AM PST by IM2MAD (IM2MAD=Individual Motivated 2 Make A Difference)
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To: palmer

I did not realize there were complete and total failures to intercept the violence in several of these cases. It just makes it even more insulting when liberals blame gun ownership while there are actual culpable individuals involved right in front of their faces. What an infuriating time we live in!


17 posted on 12/16/2012 3:05:27 AM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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To: zeestephen

Is that some kind of old .30 carbine?


18 posted on 12/16/2012 3:08:21 AM PST by MachIV
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

rifles are sexy?


19 posted on 12/16/2012 3:10:28 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Casie

There are no easy answers, but the breakdown of civil society has resulted in people shirking their responsibilities in all sorts of ways. Another is people’s failure to live up to second amendment responsibilities. I have failed too but have started to fix that.


20 posted on 12/16/2012 3:12:28 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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