New Rule: All Teachers Should Be Required to Carry Guns

Townhall.com ^ | December 16, 2012 | Doug Giles

[Kaslin]

My heart is sick. I feel so sorry for the children who were murdered, as well as the parents and loved ones of the slain kids and teachers at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. All of us here in the U.S.—who still have a soul—pray for those whose lives were just senselessly shattered.

But imagine if at least one teacher (with a concealed weapons permit) had their .40-caliber Glock with them, locked and loaded, when this weed Adam Lanza began his murderous mayhem Friday on the Sandy Hook Elementary School campus. What would have happened differently?

Would idiot boy have been able to slay 20 children and 6 teachers? I doubt it. But then again … who knows? However, I’m guessing that this terminal turd might not have dealt out as much death (if any) if the good guy with the gun drew down on him and double-tapped the center mass of this jackass with a couple of jacketed hollow points.

Unfortunately, there was no concealed weapon in the possession of a teacher to stop this satanic weed from taking root because guns are disallowed on campus. Correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t the majority of the mass murders within the U.S. in the last 20 to 30 years been in Gun Free Zones?

Gun Free Zones turn the people who inhabit such places into sitting ducks for insane whack jobs with death wishes. I know, some schools have campus cops and security systems; however, that line of defense brings zero comfort to most parents if serious bullet flying $#*& starts hitting the fan in one of their kids’ classes.

Look, even the best Rambo-like police force equipped to the teeth, driving Vipers and descending en masse on a school in Black Hawk helicopters could not have responded fast enough to kill this Lanza piece of crap. But a fast-thinking, well-trained teacher could have.

I hate to seem pessimistic, but given this current “poor me” entitlement culture, I don’t see an atmospheric break in this violent weather pattern. I guarantee that even as I type and our nation weeps, there is, somewhere in the United States of Political Correctness, some disenfranchised dipstick making plans on how he can trump Adam Lanza’s slaughter. Chilling.

Call me simple. Call me a redneck. Call me whatever the hell you wanna call me—but until we allow credible, licensed, proven and protective teachers to carry a weapon on campus, we will see this murderous madness occur again and again and again.

Matter of fact, if I owned and operated Doug Giles Elementary School I would mandate that all my teachers be weapons trained and carry a live pistol openly at all times. I bet that 100% of the parents who lost their children today wish that their child’s teacher had a gun in order to defend their now deceased child.

We can’t afford to rely on security systems or chunky security guards with golf carts, pepper spray, whistles and plastic badges to safeguard against these armed death dealers from hell.

The reality is that this stuff goes down when you least expect it, and as long as schools don’t have some armed teachers and faculty who have been properly trained and equipped to kill the post-pubescent perps, the more we will continue to carry innocent children out of their classrooms in black body bags. Call me weird, but in every school shooting there should be only one casualty—namely the gun-wielding culprit who commenced the chaos … and not your Crayon-carrying kids or their teachers.

[Bryanw92]

>>Being a teacher can be aggravating to say the least.

It is especially aggravating in the US where parents who never disciplined their kids send those kids off to be educated and then expect teachers to make these little animals into honor students. If the teacher complains about the child’s behavior, the parents blame the problem on the teacher. If a teacher disciplines a child, they get fired.

Without morals and two parent (one male and one female) households, a teacher’s job is impossible anyway. Since most children in the US don’t have a father “in the picture”, all teachers should be male and preferably veterans. Maybe we could restore some decency to the culture that way. And they could carry a gun concealed without anyone even noticing.

[cripplecreek]

Almost no conservatives have the will to defend their own.

Tell me about it. I was swinging the club to get a tea partier elected to the UofM board of regents. He got about half as many votes as Mitt Romney and that position and virtually all other state level education positions went to democrats, most of them former union officials. Conservatives simply couldn't be bothered with all those "meaningless" races.

Conservatives fight the convenient battles while liberals fight every battle. Every battle we don't fight is one more win we give to them.

[jboot]

Um, no. Most educators would not carry even if so ordered, anyway. They are dense that way.

The solution to this and many other problems is to get rid of government schools. Schools have ruined far more children than gunmen.

[drumr337]

There are a few questions still unanswered, I read The shooter had an altercation days earlier with four teachers , Three he killed and one was not on campus.How did this young adult get on campus.All doors are locked from outside in.They admit he was not buzzed in from the office.Early reports he broke in through a window were later retracted, as the police were the ones who broke the window to gain access. Somewhere they had a major break down in security and need to focus on fixing those instead of banning guns.

[cripplecreek]

A good friend of mine was a vice-principal in a school in Warren, MI. For a number of years he and several male teachers carried concealed weapons until a state law banned them.

That's a good point. Guns weren't banned in Michigan schools until the 90s I believe. I know they weren't banned when I was in school in the 80s because we students were allowed to bring them for hunting after school.

Things were pretty different then. When one of our classmates little sister's accidentally shot and killed herself (at home), we didn't have an assembly to discuss it or offer counseling. We accepted it as a tragedy, learned from it and moved on.

[paint_your_wagon]

I agree. Parents should be free to pull their children out of public school and place them in the environment of their own choosing. For some, that might mean homeschooling, while for others it might mean a smaller private/parochial school.

Let individual parents decide the structure and level of security that they want and are willing to pay for. To say that all schools need to have x or that no schools may permit y is nothing but a bunch of top down micromanagement.

[YukonGreen]

Prisons have iron bar gates that cannot be broken or shot out by some lunatic. Visitors are buzzed in and buzzed out from a secure waiting room where anybodys reason is checked out for being a visitor. Something more radical has to be done for safety when so many more people are mentally unstable.

[Kaslin]

I read that too, that he had an altercation with four teachers, but I read that it was the day before

[iontheball]

Requiring all teachers to be armed is not only the common sense solution to the shooter problem, but it will purge from the system most of the teachers with the liberal mindset.

[PreciousLiberty]

“The problem is not guns...the problem are the sick and violent movies and video games children and adults are exposed to. These mediums train its watchers in how to kill and desensitizes them to the horrible act.”

I disagree. Violent crime has fallen consistently through the decades that these types of films and games have been available. Personally, I feel the films tend to be a worse influence in general, other than a few games like Grand Theft Auto. Even those are far from the graphic images (and attitudes) portrayed in film. Natural Born Killers? Really? Video games, on the other hand, are most likely cathartic, allowing the player to release violent feelings without harming anyone.

At any rate, I think the biggest problem in society is the combination of the breakdown of families (divorce and single-parent households), combined with a lack of moral training and ethical upbringing. Second to that is the feeling of hopelessness - and that feeling is running high among younger people right now with the bad economy and dim prospects for many. The combination of lack of morals and ethics, with depression and hopelessness is a recipe for disaster, as we’re seeing.

As a last thought, if you want to learn about real depravity, evil and cruelty, just read the news. No movies or video games needed, and it all happened in real life. The way these shootings are covered ensures we’ll get more of them from copycats. “Wow, that guy had his picture on the front page of ALL the papers!”.

[Jim Noble]

Most current teachers would be very poor candidates to serve as armed guardians. Replacing all current teachers with suitable persons to serve as armed guardians is impossible.

However.

Every school in the country should now be guarded by armed volunteers. These would be people who, when the next Adam Lanza showed up, would have no hesitation to drop him in his tracks.

Asking the current teacher workforce to perform this duty is unrealistic (met a public school teacher lately?).

[cripplecreek]

Every school in the country should now be guarded by armed volunteers.

Unfortunately, unions don't want volunteers. Volunteers don't pay union dues.

[Mister Da]

Better rule:

School staff are directly responsible for the safety of students & staff. Therefore, failure to adequately provide for this safety will be grounds for charges of negligent homicide in the event of a preventable tragedy. Staff may either arm themselves, hire armed guards, or both, but they will be held criminally liable for inadequate security resulting in death or injuries during school hours. This liability extends from the moment the school staff takes charge of a child until the child is safely discharged to a parent or guardian; meaning on the buses & field trips, too.

In the event of a lack of school funds, school security will always take spending preference over ALL OTHER school expenses. As the staff benefits directly from this security, pay cuts to staff are justified to help pay the costs of enhanced security.

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The government spends billions on security keeping themselves safe. They can damn sure spend some of that money protecting the most precious people in this country, & especially so since children are required by LAW to be in school.

[bert]

Locally, high schools have restricted entry. Entry is monitored by an armed Deputy sheriff. I can’t say how difficult it is for non students/faculty to gain entry in the course of a regular school day but........ an armed bad guy was shot by the deputy at the entry and did not succeed in entering and shooting the place up.

[Hot Tabasco]

The only thing I could find on when Michigan banned firearms from schools is this paragraph from a 2nd Amendment website:

Recently a bill was introduced in Michigan to repeal the pistol free zones that were part of the Concealed Pistol Act that was passed in 2000 and became effective in 2001.

[Darren McCarty]

The criminal empowerment zones were created when CPL laws were changed from may issue to shall issue statewide. In general, the changes were good but the CEZs were a tough pill to swallow, especially if you were in one of the few counties that were already shall issue (Macomb, Huron - Clinton and Monroe were lenient). Most counties just gave out “Hunting and Target” carry permits.

[P.O.E.]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2968949/posts?page=75#75

I linked them in a previous post - they still work, as of now.

[Erik Latranyi]

Remember when liberals screamed about arming pilots? The liberals had images of shootouts at 30,000 feet and all sorts of disasters.

What has happened? Nothing.

Remember when liberals screamed about concealed carry in XX state? They told us our streets would become the wild west (the wild west was only violent in liberal Hollywood scripts). They told us blood would be everywhere.

What has happened? Nothing.

Remember when liberals screamed about Castle Doctrine in XX state? Remember how they screamed about girlscouts being shot on porches by insane gun-owners?

What has happened? Nothing.

It is time we expand armed pilots, teachers, citizens and stop giving any consideration to what liberals think.

[cripplecreek]

The sad thing is that many of the rights we’re trying to get are rights we had 20 years ago. Most were stripped in knee jerk reactions to Columbine.

In my little hometown of Hanover we used to walk right down Main street carrying shotguns and rifles. We’d even carry them into the grocery store without anyone batting an eye.

[meadsjn]

The only problem with such a policy is that about half of public school teachers are also SSRI-drugged up zombies, just like the perpetrator; and are thus permanently unreliable purveyors of tools such as firearms or reason.