Here is a solution that costs way, way less than that. Some training, a weapon, done.
Posted on 12/16/2012 5:34:24 AM PST by marktwain
This shooting is yet another tragic example of the failed, grotesque insistence on helpless victim zones where any crazed gunman can be assured of a large number of disarmed, undefended, helpless victims, all crammed into one place, where he can kill many children before an armed defender arrives from elsewhere. It is disturbing and sick that the federal government so hates the right of the American people to bear arms, and so hates their natural right to self defense, that the government insists on making them helpless, disarmed victims for anyone who cares to kill them. And in this case, all of the teachers and staff were willfully disarmed by the Federal Government, by force of law and threat of prison, to ensure that they would be disarmed and incapable of saving the lives of the children entrusted to their care.
That makes the Federal Government complicit in the deaths of these children, and in fact an accessory to their mass murder, by forcibly disarming (with the very real threat of prison) all the teachers, all the staff, and any parent who may have been on school property. That stupid law guaranteed the shooters would meet no immediate armed resistance, which is exactly what is needed to stop such an attack.
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I’d like to see a suit for their failing their fiduciary duties.
Me too! However I’m afraid that would result in the politicians putting an armed guard in every school room in America.
I would rather see teachers trained and proficient in weapon use as part of their education.
I think that is a better option than arming teachers who often come into close physical contact with their students. Also if you want a teacher you want a teacher - not a teacher who is trained to engage an armed assailant in a firefight with a room full of children. Something could be said about have a well armed and trained citizenry, but we live in a country of specialists including our law enforcement personal. Even those dedicated to full-time learning on how to respond are vulnerable in these situations (the police officer at the Sikh temple who got shot for example).
Armed Pilots Program
We only have to look at the incredibly successful armed pilots program that continues today.
When proposed, liberals imagined it would result in shootouts at 30,000 feet and distracted pilots who would cause crash after crash.
Liberals were wrong -— AGAIN.
Just like they were wrong in every state that passed concealed carry.
Just like they were wrong in every state that passed the Castle Doctrine.
Here is a solution that costs way, way less than that. Some training, a weapon, done.
Well yes. But people taking meds that cause rage or suicidal urges must be kept away from guns and cars until they are better.
Trouble is Chuck like we just pointed out on the tv thread Chuck no bullets in many of these guns even in Israel.
The solution that will be arrived at will be to hire more government employees as security guards. And they will be unionized. This can be done quickly. It will satisfy those who just want to feel like they are participating. It will help unemployment ( not really, but that’s how it will be portrayed). It will help create more Democrat voters. This will be the solution they arrive at. Gun control doesn’t create any new government jobs. Finally, the Democrats will love it because it doesn’t actually solve the problem, so they can keep complaining about guns. Everything will be the same, except we will have more unionized government employees who vote Democrat.
Yes, and the CT people would never agree that no-gun zones are a safety threat. No common sense there
From what I have read most recently, the mother dumped the father, not the other way around—if you have seen a story that the marriage busted up over an affair, I’d be interested in a link. The only things that I have seen indicating that the father had hooked up with some one else were very early when the media had the father living in NJ.
I do agree that the divorce was almost certainly a contributing factor, but I would hesitate to dump the entire responsibility for the divorce on the father.
And...when was the last time there was a mass-shooting in a gun store?
The problem is most teachers are nut-job leftists who hate guns and would be the last people on earth to voluntarily submit to gun training and carrying.
The reality is hired armed protection is likely the only way this will work.
Perhaps you are thinking of the maternal step-grandfather, who was a principal in the school district who seems to have dumped his first wife for a school nurse?
“the absentee dad is a guilty accomplice, out living “married” to his affair partner leaving mom holding the bag of a mentally ill son.”
My advice to you is to ‘Judge not, lest you be judged’. You do not know the situation.
Was the shooter NOT a legal adult?
murder suicide at gun store/shooting range
http://abcnews.go.com/US/missouri-couple-found-dead-alleged-shooting-range-murder/story?id=14464596
One more time
I am not saying it was a mass shooting, your comment just jogged my mind about a weird instance I was familiar with. Still what a loony tune doing it there; those guys there are tough
If the teachers were allowed to carry, there would be little cost. They should be professionally trained but there are numerous places where they can get good training.
Also, many towns have volunteer fire departments. The costs are minimal. How about the same setup with a couple of on site armed volunteers (properly trained and deputized, of course). Perhaps there should be an off duty or retired (or even an active) policeman in charge? That would give some defense in depth. The school could provide the radios and lunch and the volunteers would provide their own (approved) weaponry and time.
This isn't rocket science, but there are a lot of laws, lawyers, and politicians in the way.
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