Posted on 12/18/2012 5:52:29 AM PST by expat1000
The reality is that, all of us, because of our fallen human nature, can very well commit acts of great evil. We also have free will. We can either serve God or the Enemy.
we still dont know how Mrs Lanza stored her guns and how her son got them
I don’t think any of us can imagine living with and loving, for 20 years, a damaged emotionless unfeeling child who may have NEVER shown any tendency to violence except against himself (cutting and burning)
He has been described as near genius and obviously a cunning meticulous planner, so that would make him hard to control as he made a secret murderous suicide plan
She obviously trusted her child enough to sleep behind an unlocked door in their home, and she paid the price by being his first victim
why don’t the networks interview all the neighbors of this dirtbag and see what they say
Just like The idiot in Tucson who shot and killed a lot there were NUMEROUS incidents where the police were involved, and on TV after the shooting one person even said that he was never arrested before because his mother worked for the government and “there would be trouble”
SHE should also be held responsible for those deaths.
Who was in volved in Lanza’s life? was he ever arrested? institutionalized? With all the money paid to all these government bureaucrats, didn’t ANY OF THEM see this kids was a nutjob? Or did none of them ever notice?
It is fundamental incompetance either way. Why do we have so much government if it cant spot nutjobs like this?
No matter how hard you try to predict and deflect evil it just will never be foolproof, the terrorist and the insane only have to get lucky once, the rest of us have to be prepared or just plain lucky all day every day
‘Never let a crisis go to waste...’
‘Never let a crisis go to waste...’
“I dont think any of us can imagine living with and loving, for 20 years, a damaged emotionless unfeeling child who may have NEVER shown any tendency to violence except against himself (cutting and burning)”
Maybe subconsciously or not, she had those guns in case her kid decided to turn on her. He did. The mistake, she didn’t get to them first.
I don’t deny for one minute the devil and demonic forces are at work. However, Adam Lanza was clearly severely mentally ill. The symptoms were there.
I know about this issue personally and up front. I have a very close person in my family who is mentally ill. Hospitalized six times so far. But it is catch and release with these mental hospitals. They get the patients back on their meds and then release them after a short period. And then worst of all....the hypa laws.....when you call the doctor to find what is really wrong, what the diagnosis is, what the medication is, what the treatment is......they tell you NOTHING bunless the patient signs a release (good for only one year) no matter how close the patient is to you. THIS IS THE REAL ISSUE WHICH NEED TO BE ADDRESSED-—these crazy laws on mental illness. Read the WSJ this morning-—there is an article on this very topic. It nails it: Gun violence is way down in this country. It is the laws and policies on mental illness which need to be addressed in this nation. Guns are not the problem....it is the truly sick people out there not getting the attention they need. The good news is this: The treatment and meds have VASTLY improved over the past few decades. The tough part is getting the patient to stay on his meds and keep his up his doctor’s appointments.
There are people who are crazy and violent. Either put them in controlled rooms or kill them before they kill you.
PS Applies to Muslims, too.
We don’t need a pacification culture, we need a warrior culture.
In a warrior culture, every child is required to participate in learning to defend themselves, there family, and their community.
How many parents find karate lessons useful for their child’s discipline and as a healthy group activity. I think every house of worship should have someone teaching a martial arts class to anyone who wants to learn, especially children. Kids with emotional disorders would be identified early, interacting in a physically active group discipline might help some of their issues. In addition, it brings people together in church, especially those who would not ordinarily show their face in church, not only for worship but to interact as a community. Many churches could become headquarters for an outreach of conservative ideals and fomenting conservative activism.
I would expand on that my teaching not only how to maim with the hands, but how to heal with the hands. When training progressed to the stick, and how it extrapolates into the knife, cane, sword and staff, let kids also learn to take tools in their hands to work and build as an equal part of the classes, help maintain the homes of the aged. And after they’ve learned to work together in discipline and compassion in all these fields, there should be the basic hunter’s safety course and introduction to using a weapon to feed your family.
I don’t know how many people would actually make an effort with something like this, but I’m convinced it would be beneficial.
I haven’t followed this story closely at all, yes it is a tragedy. Now the gun control nuts are out in full force to ban assault weapons, big clips, etc.
Wasn’t the shooter using a pistol? I am not sure how much of this was released by the police, but I thought I had read that he was.
The insane will always find a way to be destructive. More rules or bans won’t stop them but only hamper efforts of citizens to protect themselves.
People are freaking out about Newtown, Conn. Just wait till they get a load of the revolution.
I think you may be right
She had an underlying fear for her own life, maybe was projecting it into a “SHTF” scenario
but her real nemesis was a person she gave birth to and loved and felt protective of and responsible for, even if for 20 years he never once loved her back
It is a horrible life she lived. Can’t fault her for being a bit “off” in her preception of reality
I have read that the rest of the family has not yet even claimed her body (nor Adams)- that says a lot
But remember, all forms of illnesses do come from the enemy, be it physical or mental. God wants to heal us and restore us to fullness of health.
Mental illnesses = demonic control.
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OK. I will say right up front that I could not be in greater disagreement with you. Personal experience with a family member’s bipolar disorder tells me something quite different, in a phrase, chemical imbalance. If you want to attribute that to demons, OK.
How would you propse, given your thesis that mental illness is really demonic control, treating those under demonic control?
“I dont think that arming school personnel is the answer either. Their job is to teach. Its the duty of parents and law enforcement to protect children.”
More errors in fewer lines than I have seen in quite a while, hence the deconstruction of those errors.
1. “I dont think that arming school personnel is the answer either.”
Got something against some 40 years of 100% sucess in preventing school attacks?
If not, consider that the Israel had an attack by Muslims (who else) and decided that watching their children being thrown off the roof of the school and dying a crumpled mass of bloody tissue was not going to happen again.
They armed their teachers and the older students.
From 1973 to today, not one school attack occurred - can you now comprehend the message of arming teachers?
2. Parents and law enforcement can’t arrive in time, but armed teachers are there already.
By not disarming teachers, you no longer force teachers to confront an armed killer as did the helpless Jews in Germany.
Conclusion: The premises in your posted sentences are faulty, the conclusions are therefore invalid.
May I suggest you need to revise your premises.
Please see post number 35. Thank-you.
what happens with those who have temporary mental issues? something like lead poisoning or a tumor?
Do we take away rights forever because of a temporary medical issue?
Do we REALLY want left wing doctors ruling on who does or does not have second amendment rights?
This all ties into Obamacare.
Once in, EVERYTHING becomes a medical issue.
“its for the children...”
Plus healing and restoration must be a joint effort as well.
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