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NRA’s Press Conference of 12/21/12: An almost masterful strike. (Part 1)
gunfreezone.net ^ | 22 December, 2012 | Miguel

Posted on 12/22/2012 5:44:32 PM PST by marktwain

Edited on 12/22/2012 6:34:51 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Edited for profanities. Click link to see article.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 21december; banglist; guncontrol; nrapresser; pressconference; secondamendment
Interesting essay. I did not see the press conference, but the "news coverage" of it that I did see left out most of the cogent points. I could barely recognize the speeches given by the NRA in the "news coverage".
1 posted on 12/22/2012 5:44:36 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Guy seems to like using the F word a lot.


2 posted on 12/22/2012 5:48:38 PM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: marktwain

The news coverage has been disgraceful. It has portrayed LaPierre as a madman.


3 posted on 12/22/2012 5:51:02 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: marktwain

I dunno. I think shifting the conversation to the subject of how to protect children in schools with guns was good, but talking about having a cop in every school, not so much.


4 posted on 12/22/2012 6:04:05 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: RetiredArmy

As far as the pukes in the media are concerned, wouldn’t you say it’s an appropriate use of the word?


5 posted on 12/22/2012 6:06:02 PM PST by Postman (........................................................I'm thinking! I'm thinking!!)
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To: marktwain

Name calling is all the media whores have in retort. LaPierre was verbally skeet shooting at that press conference. The media cowards run just like mass shooters do when confronted.


6 posted on 12/22/2012 6:10:20 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: VRWC For Truth
LaPierre was verbally skeet shooting

Great choice of words, there. I can almost hear PULL during the interview.

7 posted on 12/22/2012 6:20:50 PM PST by liege
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To: Repeal 16-17
The news coverage has been disgraceful. It has portrayed LaPierre as a madman.

The "news" coverage of Sandy Hook was worse than disgraceful .... every rumor that blew on the breeze was reported as news. I think someone counted 8 or 9 major errors. They have no shame. Someone should hold them to account ... how, I'm not sure, but it needs to be done. The DMC (Democrat Media Complex) is a major player in the ruination of this country.

8 posted on 12/22/2012 6:26:45 PM PST by MissMagnolia
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
I dunno. I think shifting the conversation to the subject of how to protect children in schools with guns was good, but talking about having a cop in every school, not so much.

Many schools already have one. They cost about the same as a school bus. What's the problem?

9 posted on 12/22/2012 6:33:00 PM PST by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner

Number one, I don’t like the idea that if two kids get into a fight at school, now they have police records. Kids should be kept away from police for as long as possible.

Certainly, if any local district wants to do it, it’s not my business. But if we’re talking about the federal government paying to have a cop in every school, I could think of better ways to spend or not spend that money.


11 posted on 12/22/2012 6:45:11 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: moneyrunner

I, too, thought the idea of police in the schools was a bad idea back when Bill Clinton signed off on federal money to make it happen (http://articles.latimes.com/2000/apr/16/news/mn-20323).

However, this must have made some contribution to reducing gun deaths among school children over the years.

Now that the NRA endorses the idea I’m all for it.


12 posted on 12/22/2012 6:47:35 PM PST by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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To: marktwain


There, fixed it.
13 posted on 12/22/2012 7:22:21 PM PST by WSGilcrest (/s)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
LaPierre's point on policemen in schools was to address the need for immediate action to bridge the time needed to train up school officials and other local citizens to take over the security task. I do not believe his call for police officers was intended as the permanent solution.
14 posted on 12/22/2012 7:36:20 PM PST by iontheball
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To: basil

self post for later reading.


15 posted on 12/22/2012 7:36:38 PM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Vesparado

I’m not sure, at the least, a full cop is NEEDED. Private guards, some of which are unrevealed second careers of teachers, should suffice.


16 posted on 12/22/2012 8:16:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: iontheball
I think if people would take the time to watch the video or read the transcript, they might have understood that. There's references made to "trained security officers" categorizing several facets of public service INCLUDING police.

I argue that There's a lot of good ideas here including the framework that affords local adjusting by municipalities to meet individual circumstances. You won't see THAT in any federal program. Wait, there is no program, silly me.

I continue to reason that doing nothing is not an option, but denying me my unalienable rights under the constitution is NOT an acceptable option for me.

NRA members didn't march into Newtown and kill those kids and adults - but the politicians & scumbags at HCI mandated the "free-fire" zones that made it all possible. And don't believe for a moment that they don't like it that way. The status quo fires the engines of their fascist agenda, all while congratulating themselves in the name of liberal "progress".

They all have blood on their hands and project it on the NRA as the monster in this tragedy. It's disgusting, deplorable and intellectually dishonest. But no one can lie to the face of a grieving parent tasked with burying a son or daughter like a filthy politician can.

Shame on their souls.

17 posted on 12/22/2012 8:27:51 PM PST by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: marktwain

Gun-free zones killing our kids!


18 posted on 12/22/2012 8:41:23 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: marktwain
The reasoning of the gun controllers is the same as that of the Prohibitionists from a century ago. In both cases a particular inanimate object (liquor then, gun now) is blamed for human failings, instead of blaming the people who committed / are committing the wrongful acts. Also in both cases, in was the Left (Progressives then, Liberals now) who moved from advocating regulation to prohibition to Constitutionally mandated prohibition (there are gun controllers who have called for the repeal of the Second Amendment).

The Eighteenth Amendment is the warning sign of how far people like Michael Bloomberg will go if we are not careful. Don't say it can't happen.

19 posted on 12/22/2012 9:05:58 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Private guards, some of which are unrevealed second careers of teachers”

That’s an excellent idea. I think it’s important that they be in plain-clothes, like active teachers and `sky marshalls’ on airplanes, so that a gunman isn’t sure who to target.
So there’s a solution. But the left will continue to deny the truism that bad men with guns are only stopped by good men with guns.
They will continue to insist that all guns—”assault rifles!”—be made illegal, knowing full well that by definition `bad men’/criminals have gotten into the habit of ignoring laws that they don’t wish to obey.
I’m convinced that most Democrats go to college and spend four years eating the covers off their books.


20 posted on 12/22/2012 9:33:46 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives. "A long train of abuses and usurpations.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You’re right, of course.


21 posted on 12/22/2012 9:42:50 PM PST by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
I would agree, full time cops in every school is not a good idea. Where I went to school, cops were not allowed to enter without a specific purpose (i.e. a warrant) and that is the way it should be, school is a sort of personal space.

A protective agent with the rights and duties of any ordinary citizen is all that would be needed, and worth talking about.

22 posted on 12/22/2012 11:31:32 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly
A protective agent with the rights and duties of any ordinary citizen is all that would be needed, and worth talking about.

It's really all about deterrence, right? There have been lots of stories about how criminals, including spree killers, actively avoid situations where they might be confronted with someone with a gun. The one that pops immediately to mind is how 11% of US burglaries take place when the victim is home, while almost 50% do - the reason being that burglars fear armed homeowners a LOT more than they fear cops.

I think a combination of visible presence, be it cops or private armed security, and explicit/publicized permission for teachers with valid CCW permits to carry on school property would do it.

I think it also makes a lot of sense to bring firearms training and gun clubs back into the schools. The big issue here isn't "guns", but the way guns have been demonized and mystified within society. Kids should be exposed to firearms early in their lives, giving them an understanding of what they can do and instilling a healthy respect for them while demystifying them at the same time.
23 posted on 12/22/2012 11:51:26 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: marktwain

Go to KCRA.COM for a strange home invasion. The shooter is still dead.


24 posted on 12/23/2012 12:19:51 AM PST by Domangart
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To: marktwain

What is wrong with the NY Post? They call LaPierre a gun nut on their front page today and have been consistently on the wrong sides of this issue. Are they convinced they will lose circulation if they defend the Constitution? I am seriously considering not buying the paper anymore, but maybe they are looking at what they think is their bottom line. Disgrazia!


25 posted on 12/23/2012 1:49:11 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Repeal 16-17
More alcohol was consumed during prohibition than before the law.
And, The 2nd amendment was meant to protect us from what they're
talking about doing to the Constitution, breaking it.

Somewhere there is a plan to take the guns and worry about courts later. The plan probably
is to deal with it later and grab the guns while the grabbing is good. But there's a flaw,
more Americans are arming themselves just hearing about a ban. And I doubt local officers
will want anything to do with it since they are not military and can just say no.

The only recourse would be to call up the national guard to do the dirty work.
But will they even have ammo in their guns? And are Troops willing to kill Americans?

26 posted on 12/23/2012 2:10:37 AM PST by MaxMax (Gun free zones was the invitation to gun bans)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
I dunno. I think shifting the conversation to the subject of how to protect children in schools with guns was good, but talking about having a cop in every school, not so much.

You have to put it in context. How do you protect children in schools without some sort of security which involves an armed opponent to the bad guys? Do you actually try to take everyone's weapons (and Freedom) away? Do you build impregnable fortresses and call them schools?

No to each of the other choices - you ensure that any murderous child killer is met with a dose of return fire. Armed security is the best defense against armed bad guys. I would go further than just a cop at schools - arm and train a percentage of staff and pay them a bit more for the role they play in deterring the bad guys - just knowledge that there are armed people at schools is enough to stop most of those who use them as shooting galleries.

27 posted on 12/23/2012 4:21:05 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: trebb

I think we all would probably agree that staff should be allowed to be armed at school, and moreover, there should be a requirement that there be a weapon kept on the premises at all times, and at least one person on the staff trained and authorized to make use of it in an emergency.


28 posted on 12/23/2012 4:33:43 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: WSGilcrest

Excellent!


29 posted on 12/23/2012 4:56:01 AM PST by FES0844
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To: Postman

Sorry. I don’t use that word. It might be a sign of being something big to some. To me, it only proves one has a foul mouth.


30 posted on 12/23/2012 11:12:10 AM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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