Skip to comments.NBC News and David Gregory: A legal problem or a journalism problem?
Posted on 12/26/2012 10:33:08 AM PST by jimbo123
NBC News has a problem. The question is whether it is a legal one or a journalistic one.
The legal problem here is nearly self-confessed. D.C. code plainly prohibits magazines with capacities exceeding 10 rounds of ammunition. Of this regulation, Meet the Press cannot possibly claim ignorance or oversight.
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No matter which or what, he will never be charged with anything, as he is one of the elites, above-the-laws, and works for NBC.
He can always claim 1st amendment rights as a member of the press.........................
It’s all three. Ape-face Gregory could use 6 months in the DC jail to ponder his thoughts about gun control.
....and/or his producer.................
Quentin Tarantino type fantasy can become plausible when CBS or CNN runs it at 6:00PM. A marketing scam like Barack Obama can start to seem real and his message of nothing becomes tangible when enough editorial license is taken by the "journalists".
If David Gregory was black, he would have been arrested by the DC police days ago.
Legally, isn’t this no different than the idiot bringing a Gram of Cocaine onto the show?
Actually, this is probably worse for Gregory, because at least with the Cocaine, he could claim that it was something else. In this case, there isn’t much left to doubt.
He was clearly holding a 30 round AR15/M4 GI Mag. (I have lots of them) I wonder where he got it, and what he did with it after the taping for the show was done.
David Gregory broke the law and should be held accountable. Otheriwse he’s just making the point that we’re not enforcing existing laws so it’s pointless to pass any new ones.
Please put me on his jury! It’s ass-banging jail for him if I have anything to say about it.
For the record, I am totally pro 2A, but an empty mag used as a prop is hardly worthy of discussion. I’d feel the same if the mag was loaded, as long as the firearm wasn’t in the room. DC’s gun laws may be silly, but getting upset over this is even worse. Yes I hate all the gun-grabbers crawling out of the woodwork, but this story is a joke.
Trying to make something out of nothing is a libtard tactic, and one’s reduces credibility.
Back when I worked in the media, One of our editors had a delusion that his career was just like the movies where hard news is all a paper does and truth is supreme. For a few years I pointed out article after article to him on our AP feed that was pure opinion fronting itself as journalism.
Every time he had an excuse as to how the AP was the guiding light of integrity and would never interject opinion as fact. Any reporter to do so would be quickly disassociated from that paragon of ethical reportage.
The day the AP circulated a memo that henceforth ‘OPINION’ was to be a normal part of their reporting and acceptably ethical, I thought the man would have a stroke.
And the “I told ya’ so’s’ did not stop for months ;)
Ethrical journalism is open to the whims of the ‘ethical journalist’.
I’m sure David Gregory and his fellow liberals at NBC appreciate your show of support.
Ding ding ding! That's a winner!
That and they perceive themselves as above the law, above the rest of us. They "know best" what's needed for the "little people" (that would be us in their eyes). But they don't think they need to be held to the same standard.
Its a law - agree with it or not - it is the law. If he held up a bag of heroin or an iPad playing child porn, would there even be any discussion over charging him or not?
It’s really quite simple: “reporters” consider themselves, like Dem politicians, to be above the laws that govern the rest of us.
Imagine what would happen to someone who was black and had that mag in his possession on a DC street. He would have been arrested immediately and his home would have been searched by now.
The mindset you describe is exactly the way it is. And you best believe the small town reporter has it too. The MSM has no monopoly on it. It is part and parcel of the modern journalism mindset and it is pretty much taught in J school.
So, you don't believe in holding Democrats to their own standards? Interesting....
It’s not nothing. These guys obviously know the law in DC, and on national TV, they deliberately violated it, on purpose, because of who they are, they believed they could get away with it.
They are liberal elites and they don’t believe the gun laws that the rest of us would be jailed for violating, apply to them.
THAT is why people are calling on this putz to be prosecuted.
When libtards do stuff like this they believe they are untouchable and don’t have to live under the same laws THEY ACTIVELY FORCE on the rest of us.
That is reason enough to demand prosecution of the liberals who knowingly violate laws you or I would have no mercy from being spared prosecution on.
If Wayne LaPierre appeared on this show, and used an empty 30 round AR-15 mag as a personal prop, there would be no question he would be charged. But Wayne would never do anything that stupid, for one, and while not agreeing with the DC law, would not deliberately violate it just to have something to have in his hands during an interview. If a visual was needed he could bring his own graphic or a file photo of a magazine could be displayed.
You can bet that mag has already left D.C.
I don’t like these guys any more than you do, but prosecuting anyone over this steps way beyond the intent of the law.
To each his own, but I don’t subscribe to the ‘na na na na na na, they do it too’ game. I don’t change what I think is right or wrong just because of the players. The spirit of the DC law as not to arrest people carrying empty mags.
I share your contempt for the leftards, I just don’t agree with blind application of the law because we hate someone.
Nothing will happen.
Sorry Skippy, the DC law is very clear that just having the mag, even without a rifle, is illegal. The liberal puke has to serve some hard time for his crimes.
Again, they did it to show they believe they are above the law. They could have used a picture on a board or from a file photo but they instead chose to do this because they believed they could break the law and because they are elites, not suffer the same fate as any other average person.
When they break the law in your face and they do it on purpose, I don’t want them to get away with it. Because any of us who went on that show would not be able to.
Either we all live under the same stupid laws or we don’t. These are the people who voted for this law, they don’t get to break it just because they’re anti-2nd Amendment. that’s the same logic that only blacks can use certain english words because they’re black.
...I dont like these guys any more than you do, but prosecuting anyone over this steps way beyond the intent of the law......
what is the intent of the law? What was his intent on showing the magazine on TV did he show where he got it from, how much it cost, who else handled it? how hard or easy it was to get? What happens since he is caught will they show him being arrested, searched, his house searched, the studios searched, his dog getting shot by police, booked into jail, his booking photo, his court appearance etc his jail roommate...as Paul Harvey would say and now the rest of the story....
Unlike you, I believe that if Gregory broke the law, then he should be prosecuted. I believe he knew what he was doing and didn’t care. He believes he is above the rest of us. This should be made a big deal off, because he would be making a big deal of it if the shoe was on the other foot.
We have to stop letting them get away with it.
It should also get him a record of ‘gun related crime’.
That should keep him off planes and have his press pass pulled.
I don't know about you, but I'm tired of these sanctimonious MSM twits preaching how others should live and what laws are good for them, but not having to follow the laws themselves. I relish the prospect of taking a draconian law and using it to bludgeon one of these elites. It leaves the MSM now in the untenable position of justifying why it wants to break laws to which it expects you and I to be held.
Further we now KNOW without doubt they did do this deliberately and with intent to shove it in our faces.
NBC was told by the Washington, D.C., police that it was not permissible to show a high-capacity gun magazine on air before Sundays Meet the Press, according to a statement Wednesday from the cops.
THEY DID IT ANYWAY. The rules do not apply to the fourth branch of government, the liberal elite of the MSM.
Would you like to modify your view on this particular incident, now knowing this information is not just speculation but confirmed fact?
Gregory is lucky to be alive after letting such a dangerous contraband weapon touch his skin! Seems like a few years in prison will be necessary to make him realize the severity of his actions.
There’s also CONSPIRACY to violate the DC statute that prohibits possession of the 30 round magazine. He was told explicitly by the DC police that the magazine was illegal and yet he and/or his staff procured the magazine and took possession of it anyway.
It should also get him a record of gun related crime.
That should keep him off planes and have his press pass pulled.
an assault magazine-deadly as can be!
absolutely, actions have consequeces and stupidity is no excuse neither is elitism...they asked for and were denied permission and ignored the law and went ahead...clearly prior intent to break the law and knowledge of the law has been shown.
What would happen if someone took the (empty) 30 round magazine to a local DC school to be used as a prop for a ‘show and tell’? What would the ‘spirit of the law’ be?
Yup, Let’s hope DC has the death penalty.
Here in the People's Republik of Kalifornia I am subject to about seventy pages of guns laws, most of them just as stupid and unConstitutional as the law apparently broken by Gregory.
What do you think would happen to me if I imported such a magazine into Kalifornia? Would I just be told that it was no big deal and to go on my way?
Kalifornia maintains a list of handguns that are legal to buy new. In one case, I believe, simply changing the color of the firearm, because that is a different model number, renders the handgun illegal to buy.
I own a semi-automatic rifle which is legal to own simply because of the name on the receiver. If the name was "Bushmaster", my gun would be illegal to own.
The penalties for violating these laws are not typically like getting a traffic ticket. Many are felonies and carry heavy fines and prison time along with lifetime loss of Second Amendment rights.
I would be delighted to see Gregory and NBC charged, see them make an emergency appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, and have the court summarily declare the D.C. ban unConstitutional under the Second Amendment. That would solve all our problems, wouldn't it? If such a thing happened, I would send a Thank You card to Gregory.
But if Gregory isn't charged, then he has no standing to challenge this tyrannical law and there is no way that the Supreme Court would take up the matter.
Perhaps that is the whole point of this discussion.
>> I dont like these guys any more than you do, but...
“Show no pity for the elitists. Only when they hang from the gallows they build do they realize their criminal insanity.”
When you have a major news organization controlled by the government, it’s a corruption problem.
For the record, I am totally pro 2A, but an empty mag used as a prop is hardly worthy of discussion. Id feel the same if the mag was loaded, as long as the firearm wasnt in the room. DCs gun laws may be silly, but getting upset over this is even worse. Yes I hate all the gun-grabbers crawling out of the woodwork, but this story is a joke.
David Gregory is pushing for more gun laws. How about enforcing the gun laws on the books first? David Gregory wants to put Americans in jail for violating gun laws, when he himself is violating the gun law.
And David Gregory knowingly violated the law. Of course it's a stupid law, but Gregory wants more of the stupidity that's destroying people's lives. You first, Mr. Gregory. Trying to make something out of nothing is a libtard tactic, and ones reduces credibility.
“Trying to make something out of nothing is a libtard tactic, and ones reduces credibility”
I disagree. I think we need to do more of this. We should put 500 people on his front lawn asking for his immediate resignation and holding up signs on why rich liberal white guys get away with this kind of stuff.
I would alinsky him to the max.
This particular "law" was not made by Congress, which has the power, and the responsibility, to legislate for DC "in all cases whatsoever".