Posted on 01/01/2013 10:06:36 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
The Cuomo administration is preparing to shove thousands of mentally ill New Yorkers out of supervised settings — where they can be forced to take their medication — into far less restrictive, far more dangerous “community housing.”
Albany, under pressure from the Obama administration, recently ordered psychiatric facilities not to place any discharged patients in adult homes, where staff can ensure they take their meds.
Instead, they’ll be placed in “community housing,” without full-time supervision.
This is part of the state’s plan to essentially empty adult homes into community-based “supportive” apartments, leaving up to 6,000 people — including those with schizophrenia — to live on their own, with minimal supervision.
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But your original post cited Laing and anti-psychiatry as the genesis of today’s situation - the de-institutionalization and using medication as a treatment and solution - and my point is that it was not. Merely questioning the definition of sanity and madness and developing alternative models that never advocated extensive drug use cannot plausibly be described as causative or even influential in what happened re the mental health system in our country. The core of Laing, et al’s thesis was that mental illness was a faulty interpersonal dynamic that often was transgenerational in families. The core of the give them meds approach is that mental illness is genetic and/or biological. Two diametrically opposed points of view.
I’m on Long Island in Suffolk County, less than an hour train ride to NYC.
Just let me know, if you remember, to tell me if you will be at one of her events. FReepmail me, I’ll give you my number and we could meet up.
No, I think that the states and the 60s generation glomed on to the idea that there was no such thing as mental illness; for the states it was: yipee, we don’t have to take care of them and for the hippies: it was the sane who were insane. In other words, perhaps a misreading of Laing. That in turn lead to all the problems we city people had to put up with in the 70s.
Release the mentally ill without medication or supervision
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Only if they are branded or tattooed on their foreheads.....should be enough “Due Process” to let the rest of us deal appropriately with them. Maybe “T” for thief, “R” for rapist, “M” the molester/pedophile, and the “X” on democrats and other mentally ill. Just an idea from the old days.
Being the story is from New York, I was thinking more on the lines of them all going to Albany. Maybe we can start the ball rolling by getting one of them to run against Sheldon Silver. BO still has plenty of bath house buddies to pick from for his needs...
I think you just insulted a bunch of Packers fans...
You could fit quite a large number of them in Gracie Mansion's 'basement', but the traffic backup on the FDR Drive would be an amusing morning news item ;-)
So... the only way you can escape New York is to go through it... ;-)
Well, I could take the ferry to CT and go around NY.
Yes, you could. I thought about that after I posted. But does the ferry operate year round, or tie up for the winter?
And then you'd be in Connecticut. Not sure that would be much better .. ;-)
I would only take it to get away from NY. I do believe it is year round....weather permitting.
Fire at me too. You are correct about Giuliani.
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Most of those in the DU are mental patients.
All part of the plan.
True Cheeseheads might take offense to that characterization.
Hmm.
We’ll have to create a word that embodies all the negative connotations without offending True Cheeseheads.
Sorry, I don’t agree at all. First, I don’t believe that the bureaucrats read Laing or had ever heard of him. Second, it is not possible to “misread” Laing. Love them or loathe them, his tenets are crystal clear. He says that mental illness is interpersonal and systemic, and that the remedy is a new approach that understands that the entire family is invested in, has helped to create, and continues to feed dysfunction of the designated crazy one. The people who pushed for de-institutionalization claimed that mental illness was hereditary and biological and that thr remedy was drugs. You can’t blame that on Laing, et al.
I’d suggest FIBs, but that’s already taken . . .
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