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Obama Rejects ‘Ill-Advised’ Conscience Protections for Military Chaplains
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Posted on 01/03/2013 9:34:13 AM PST by chessplayer

(CNSNews.com) – President Obama issued a statement Wednesday rejecting several provisions of the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), including a conscience protection for military chaplains that he called “ill-advised”.

Section 533 of the NDAA provides legal protections for military chaplains, barring the Defense Department from forcing them to perform services which violate their moral or religious beliefs.


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1 posted on 01/03/2013 9:34:19 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Obama is forcing Chaplains to perform gay marraiges.


2 posted on 01/03/2013 9:37:43 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: chessplayer
Guy reminds me of one of those dolls with a string on the back that you pull and it says something.

You never know what you're going to get.

3 posted on 01/03/2013 9:37:48 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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To: chessplayer

not surprised. After all, his political party did vote “no” three times to allowing God in their party platform.

Slippery slope, downhill VERY fast...


4 posted on 01/03/2013 9:38:20 AM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: chessplayer

And so it begins... Priests in the military will be forced to perform so-called “gay marriages.” So, in theory, they would also be forced to participate in Satanic rituals.


5 posted on 01/03/2013 9:39:15 AM PST by reegs
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To: reegs

Sooner or later, and I fear sooner, God is going to get us.


6 posted on 01/03/2013 9:48:31 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: chessplayer

Any Chaplain who serves in the military and abides by these rules, is not truly a man of God. They should ignore the rules or get out. But the question is: Would anyone really complain if a Chaplain was court martialed for saying “Jesus” or refusing to perform a gay marraige?


7 posted on 01/03/2013 9:51:14 AM PST by Terry Mross ( I post so people who hate me will know what I think. And they can't seem to stop reading. LOL)
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To: chessplayer

He who pays he piper calls the tune.

If chaplains were paid by their denominations rather than the USG that would solve the problem.

But as things now stand they are government EMPLOYEES.


8 posted on 01/03/2013 9:54:57 AM PST by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: chessplayer

Think of the 1950’s.
Everything that was considered right in the 1950’s is wrong now.
Everything white, male, Christian, patriotic or heterosexual is inherently and irredeemably EVIL.
The more of these categories something falls under the more EVIL it is.
That’s how Obama sees America.
His point of view is that of an angry, molested, jug-eared little mixed-race boy with a bats*hit crazy commie for a mother.
And he will have his revenge!


9 posted on 01/03/2013 9:57:53 AM PST by servo1969
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To: chessplayer
Der Fuhrer may have some use for military chaplains in the future.

Is everyone now crystal clear on where this corrupt marxist bastard is taking us?

10 posted on 01/03/2013 10:12:09 AM PST by skeeter
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To: chessplayer

Army Chaplain at an Obama-endorsed ceremony:

Dearly beloved:
You are gathered here, but I am forced against my will, to join these two faggots in a mockery of a Christian sacrament. What they allegedly do is a sin against God, which I do not endorse. However, they want to throw a party and my choice is to preside over this or face a court martial. So, I’ll make this short.

If anyone should object to this nonsense, besides myself, let it be known now.

Whichever one of you is the groom today, do whatever you do to whoever is playing the role of bride today.

May God have mercy on your souls.

Amen


11 posted on 01/03/2013 10:16:44 AM PST by kidd
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To: chessplayer

Presidential signing statements are perhaps the most blatantly unconstitutional presidential actions, in that they usurp power from both the congress and the courts.

They are bad enough to be considered a “constitutional crisis”. And what is needed is for the SCOTUS to declare that they are invalid.

Importantly, the Marbury v. Madison (1810) decision determined, among other things, that the courts could not compel the president to act, via a “Writ of Mandamus”. However, they most certainly can compel a president to *not* act in an unconstitutional manner, if not directly, then against those subordinates that carry out his orders.


12 posted on 01/03/2013 10:30:00 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: kidd

Great rewrite, LOL

The Red Army replaced chaplains with political officers. That’s most likely the Kenyan’s next move.


13 posted on 01/03/2013 10:30:24 AM PST by Argus
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To: chessplayer

Nobody can believe this guy after he ordered HHS to oppress those religious organizations and companies, while swearing that what they were doing was not oppressive at all.

He was lying then, and he is lying now. He is only upset because he very definitely was planning to force military chaplains to violate their faith and marry homosexuals. And this messes that scheme up.

The only question now is if he will direct the Pentagon to force chaplains anyway, leading to a lawsuit. And will that lawsuit be a military lawsuit or in the civilian court system?


14 posted on 01/03/2013 10:35:52 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: chessplayer

Wait-—wait—this guy is a Christian

A Christian who didn’t go to Service at Christmas, but flew back to Hawaii for a golf game.

Probably a million bucks or more to fly the guy back down.


15 posted on 01/03/2013 11:02:34 AM PST by Venturer
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

They’ll (chaplains) refuse orders from the President, face courts martial, be convicted, go to prison. It will be recorded in history as religious persecution, coinciding with what will occur on the civilian side wrt the HHS mandate. It will be the beginning of the end.

The liberals will get their pyrrhic victory.


16 posted on 01/03/2013 11:03:00 AM PST by wiley
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Isn’t it permissible to ignore an illegal order?


17 posted on 01/03/2013 11:51:28 AM PST by Ford4000
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To: Terry Mross
But the question is: Would anyone really complain if a Chaplain was court martialed for saying “Jesus” or refusing to perform a gay marraige?

'Fraid not.

Navy dismisses chaplain who prayed 'in Jesus' name'

Air Force Bows to Atheists in Multiple Anti-Christian Moves

Wonder who is funding the
Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers?

18 posted on 01/03/2013 1:18:56 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("If you're going through hell, keep on going."--Winston Churchill)
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To: chessplayer

Who is obama to advise anyone on their conscience, one must first have a conscience before one may make judgement. And we all no Satan has no conscience!


19 posted on 01/03/2013 2:49:07 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Ford4000

It would be most interesting if a military court acquited anyone charged with disobeying such an order because it deemed such an order to be unconstitutional.


20 posted on 01/08/2013 2:55:25 PM PST by wiley
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