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... Schwarzenegger Says 'Terminator' & Other Violent Movies Shouldn't Be Blamed for Mass Shootings
Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | 6 January 2013 | Reuters Reporter

Posted on 01/07/2013 7:40:26 AM PST by DogByte6RER

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Arnold Schwarzenegger says 'Terminator' and other violent movies shouldn't be blamed for mass shootings

Arnold Schwarzenegger may be one of the world's biggest action stars but the former governor of California says violence in films is entertainment and should not be linked to tragic events like the Connecticut school shooting in which 20 children died.

The star of films such as 'The Terminator,' 'Predator' and 'True Lies' told a press conference ahead of the opening of his new movie, 'The Last Stand,' that 'one has to keep (the two) separate.'

'(This is) entertainment and the other thing is a tragedy beyond belief. It's really serious and it's the real deal,' Schwarzenegger, 65, told reporters.

The actor, who will star in his first leading role in the film since serving as California governor for seven years, said the tragedy in which a gunman killed 20 children and six staff at the Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, is about more than just guns.

'We have to analyze how we deal with mental illness, how we deal with gun laws, how we deal with parenting,' he said.

In 'The Last Stand,' Schwarzenegger plays a retired Los Angeles policeman who becomes a border town sheriff who must stop a violent drug lord from crossing the border.

The film, with its violent scenes, is the type of movie that National Rifle Association chief Wayne LaPierre recently cited as a contributing factor to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; firstamendment; guncontrol; gunlaws; hollywood; killology; movies; schwarzenegger; secondamendment; terminator; videogames
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Do as I say ... not as I do.

1 posted on 01/07/2013 7:40:40 AM PST by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER
I'll never pay a penny to watch another Ahnold movie.

I hope he fails.

2 posted on 01/07/2013 7:43:13 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the government. LIBERTY: When the government fears the people.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Makes perfect sense to me. Why bite the hand that feeds him. As long as he makes his money and as long as his life is not disturbed, why take any responsibility. He governed California with the same theory. JERK.


3 posted on 01/07/2013 7:43:46 AM PST by navymom1
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“Stop Teaching Our Kids to Kill: A Call to Action Against TV, Movie & Video Game Violence”

Authors Lt. Col. Dave Grossman and Gloria DeGaetano offer incontrovertible evidence, much of it based on recent major scientific studies and empirical research, that movies, TV, and video games are not just conditioning children to be violent—and unaware of the consequences of that violence—but are teaching the very mechanics of killing.

http://killology.com/book_stop_summary.htm


4 posted on 01/07/2013 7:45:02 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: All

He is right..


5 posted on 01/07/2013 7:45:02 AM PST by KevinDavis (And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.)
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To: DogByte6RER

The idea that Art causes violence is absurd on its face. There’s been violent entertainment since the beginning of time.


6 posted on 01/07/2013 7:49:10 AM PST by Borges
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To: DogByte6RER

He has a brain tumah.


7 posted on 01/07/2013 7:50:07 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: DogByte6RER

'Terminator' & Other Violent Movies Shouldn't Be Blamed for Mass Shootings


And neither should the NRA nor law abiding gun owners!

8 posted on 01/07/2013 7:50:26 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Borges
The idea that Art causes violence is absurd on its face

Oh I don't know, I've seen a few movies that made me want to hit something after watching them, for wasting two hours of my life, mostly.

9 posted on 01/07/2013 7:51:22 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: DogByte6RER

And yet, I remember back in the early 90s when Arnold was at the top of his marketability, he decided to not show killings in his movies anymore. Terminator II did not have any. It was a joke but he seemed to think back then that showing killings in movies was a bad idea.


10 posted on 01/07/2013 7:52:31 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: DogByte6RER

Of Course Schwartzneggar says his movies are not harming kids.

He made a million dollars making those movies.


11 posted on 01/07/2013 7:52:44 AM PST by Venturer
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To: DogByte6RER

He omits that 'we need to deal with gun free zones which become rich target locations for those bent on doing mass shootings.'

'Gun Free Zones' are magnets for those mentally ill persons who want to committ mass murder.

It doesn't take much 'analysis' and $millions in studies and reports to figure that out.

But, hey, let's ignore the obvious because it doesn't fit the PC model and go after videos and/or movies and/or assault weapons, etc.

How many lives has changing the guns to cellphones in the final scenes of the movie E.T. saved? Countless! [/s]
12 posted on 01/07/2013 7:55:27 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: DogByte6RER

gee.. I seem to recall the Giffords shooting in which dems, the prez, and most of the MSM blamed a simple icon “Target” on Sarah Palin’s website for the mass shooting... it was the climate of “hate” you see, coming from our side that led to the shooting...

but a steady diet of gruesome vid games, and movies, all aimed at young men 12 to 17...nahhh... that has no effect on society and young men in particular... nope... no effect.


13 posted on 01/07/2013 7:59:40 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: DogByte6RER
I will never watch another ahnold movie... he has joined so many already on the list.

LLS

14 posted on 01/07/2013 8:02:41 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: DogByte6RER

I don’t agree with Arnold on much of anything (maybe nothing), but I agree with this. Movies and video games do NOT cause violence. What idiocy to claim otherwise. That’s like saying because the murderer wore pants that pants cause violence.


15 posted on 01/07/2013 8:06:05 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: DogByte6RER

Why do companies spend billions a year on advertising?

If reading something or seeing something has no effect, then advertising would have no effect.

For that matter, literature or poetry would have no effect. Propaganda would have no effect.

But we all should be able to concede that they do. The question is really on what effect does it have on individuals.

Each of us are different. Each of us are influenced from things within our environment and that includes television and movies.

Does that mean we need to censor movies, no. It just means we need to acknowledge that for some, the violence of television, movies and video games will influence them in ways that may not influence you or me.

The question to ask is where do children learn what is right and what is wrong? The family of course, but also in the stories told. If you look into the past most of these stories (even the violent ones) had a moral lesson to learn.

Perhaps that is what is missing in our current culture, the wrong moral lesson is being taught.

For a long time the movie industry had a moral code, one being the bad guy could not, must not win. That is no longer the case. Every since the anti-heroes of the 1960s the bad (evil) person may just as likely to win in the in as not.


16 posted on 01/07/2013 8:06:15 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Guns and movies do not cause crime....criminals cause crime.


17 posted on 01/07/2013 8:07:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Borges

Yes, but it has reached a whole new level when people enjoy violence porn such as Texas Chainsaw Massacre III. I was disturbed by the previews shown on TV, so I can’t imagine how awful the movie is. What kind of person wants to see other people tortured with a power saw? This is sick! To say that this doesn’t harden people to violence and the suffering of others is naive. As the Bible says, put no unworthy thing before your eyes. What we see, read, or listen to influences who we are and what we believe. Our society is sick and decadent.


18 posted on 01/07/2013 8:09:22 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: DogByte6RER
The standard response from all parties:

"I don't know what the problem is, but I know it's not how I earn MY money."

It's a complex blend of issues, which is why it can't be fixed (not by us anyway).

19 posted on 01/07/2013 8:13:16 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Pining_4_TX

The audience for something like that looks at it like a videogame. I’d be surprised if any of the recent murderers in these shootings had even watched these violence-porn films. They were however all mentally ill. And besides the people who make this argument don’t distinguish between junk like the recent ‘Texas Chainsaw’ (ironically, the 1974 original wasn’t all that gory) and good films that happen to be violent (The Wild Bunch, The Terminator...)


20 posted on 01/07/2013 8:16:40 AM PST by Borges
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