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How Romney Could Have Won. A changed system = changed results.
National Review ^ | 01/08/2013 | Katrina Trinko

Posted on 01/08/2013 7:16:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind

If votes in every state were awarded by congressional district, President-elect Romney would be planning his inauguration right now.

According to the Cook Political Report, Mitt Romney won roughly about 52 percent of the congressional districts.

Currently, all states except for Maine and Nebraska award electoral votes on a winner-takes-all basis. Long-term, that looks like a worrisome trend for the GOP. Several formerly red strongholds, including Georgia and Arizona, are becoming more Democratic. Still, demographics are not destiny and if Republicans succeed in winning over more Hispanics than they have in recent years, for instance, these states could well remain red.

If states stop awarding votes on a winner-take-all basis, Republicans could also win — and without necessarily getting more votes. Determining Electoral College voting by congressional districts represents one obvious opportunity for Republicans: In that scenario, the effect of urban Democratic strongholds (such as those Philadelphia precincts where Obama was supported by 99 percent of voters) would be isolated. Instead of shifting the entire state’s electoral votes, those precincts would only influence their congressional districts.

Fair Vote, an organization that advocates switching the presidential-election process to a national popular vote, analyzed six possible new scenarios in six swing states that went blue this year despite having Republican state legislatures and governors. (They were Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Virginia, and Florida.) In two of the scenarios — proportional and a slight variation on proportional — Obama still would have won, despite the proportional awarding of votes in those six states.

But if votes had been awarded by congressional districts, Romney would have won in two of three scenarios. In the first situation, in which most of the electoral votes were awarded based on congressional-district outcomes but two of them were given to the candidate who had won the most votes overall in the state, Obama narrowly edged out Romney, with 270 votes to Romney’s 268. But in the other two scenarios — in which two electoral votes were awarded proportionally, or to whichever candidate had won the most congressional districts (not votes) — Romney would have won. In the first case, the final national electoral count would have been 274 for Romney and 264 for Obama; in the second, 280 for Romney and 258 for Obama.

In other words, if 44 states and D.C. kept their policies exactly the same, Republican state legislators in these particular six states could still succeed in paving a much easier path for a GOP presidential candidate by changing the way electoral votes are awarded.

Whether there is genuine — and sustainable — interest in doing that is another matter. According to Michigan-based Gownger News Service, state representative Peter Lund, a Republican, will re-introduce this year in the state legislature his bill to award electoral votes by congressional district. In Pennsylvania in December, state senate majority leader Dominic Pileggi said he wants to start distributing the electoral votes proportionally. “Senior Republicans say they will try to leverage their party’s majorities in Democratic-leaning states in an effort to end the winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes,” National Journal’s Reid Wilson reported last month. ”Instead, bills that will be introduced in several Democratic states would award electoral votes on a proportional basis.”

Another way Republicans could overcome their disadvantage, as the number of red states shrinks, would be to embrace the national popular vote. Having a national popular vote would lead to entirely different campaigns — think far fewer stops in Ohio, and far more in partisan strongholds like California and Texas — which could potentially swing voters who are more inclined to thoughtlessly vote the party line when they perceive their vote as not counting. Saul Anuzis, a former Michigan GOP chair and a consultant to the National Popular Vote organization, argues that switching the system to a popular vote would also make it significantly harder to commit fraud that would swing presidential elections. Instead of having to affect tens of thousands of votes in a swing state, he observes, the candidate would now have to fraudulently obtain millions of votes across the country.

Whether it’s politically prudent for Republicans to push any of these measures is unclear, much less whether it’s a good idea on principle. But for those frustrated over 2012’s results, it might be worth thinking about whether it’s time to overhaul the system itself.

— Katrina Trinko is an NRO reporter.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; excuses; fuzzymath; letsrigthesystem; lostletsrigthesystem; phonymath; romney
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1 posted on 01/08/2013 7:16:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Article makes total sense.

Then again the GOP does not have the cojones to stand their ground in the fiscal cliff debate. Highly doubtful they have the stomach for a PR slugfest in 30+ states.


2 posted on 01/08/2013 7:18:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Translation: Stolen election.


3 posted on 01/08/2013 7:18:31 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney did win . . . the election was stolen . . . just like Nixon/Kennedy back in the 1960s . . . and, like then, the Stupid Party just pouted and let it go.


4 posted on 01/08/2013 7:19:00 AM PST by laweeks
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To: SeekAndFind

Works until some additional governors from the D side are elected and house districts get gerrymandered more to the D side than to the R side as they are now.


5 posted on 01/08/2013 7:20:28 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: laweeks

You got it.

Sadly, with this country being so badly is divided, it will not end well.


6 posted on 01/08/2013 7:20:48 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee, I wonder why the Democrats don’t want voters to present photo ID?


7 posted on 01/08/2013 7:21:17 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve written to my reps about doing this. Its within the constitutional boundaries and it makes sense.

That way of Detroit wants to cheat they can and it wouldn’t make a bit of difference in the est of the state.


8 posted on 01/08/2013 7:21:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind
. Still, demographics are not destiny and if Republicans succeed in winning over more Hispanics than they have in recent years, for instance, these states could well remain red.

Damn right. I know it isn't popular to say around here, but the demographics ARE changing. We need to find a way to make our message more appealing to those changing demos. Not change our core, but change our messaging.

Small government, individual liberty, greater economic freedom CAN be "sold" if we target it correctly....and yes, sometimes that means GOING NEGATIVE on our competition.

9 posted on 01/08/2013 7:30:15 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: laweeks

The didn’t even pout they stuck their heads up their A$$e$ and folded like a cheap card table.

This election was stolen with a such an in your face arrogance.


10 posted on 01/08/2013 7:30:54 AM PST by THE_RAIDER
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To: laweeks
just like Nixon/Kennedy back in the 1960s

Good grief, Obama beat Romney by almost 5 million votes. 2012 is NOTHING like 1960 when Kennedy won by only 112K votes. We did not lose because of vote fraud. Obama actually beat Mitt by 2 million more votes than Bush beat Kerry by. This 2012 election was simply not that close, Hussein won fairly decisively.

11 posted on 01/08/2013 7:33:49 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: SeekAndFind

This does not even have to happen in 30 states, just start with California. The amount of $$ and time that Democratic candidates would have to spend here to keep their margin would totally change the contours of the race.

Someone tried to start an initiative drive here, and I wrote about it to the GOP national HQ, but they did not even answer my email. Without any funding, the drive went nowhere.


12 posted on 01/08/2013 7:34:28 AM PST by MS from the OC (Obama taking credit for killing OBL is like Nixon taking credit for landing on the moon, John Bolton)
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To: THE_RAIDER
The didn’t even pout they stuck their heads up their A$$e$ and folded like a cheap card table.

This election was stolen with a such an in your face arrogance.


Disgusting, isn't it? Could the problem also be that the Dems have designed the system so that contesting it is a rigor morale of endless paperwork and committee investigations, and nothing is truly revealed?
13 posted on 01/08/2013 7:35:33 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: SeekAndFind

Truly stupid and dangerous column. We won’t keep winning by gerrymandering. The Republican legislatures have done a good job packing D votes into D districts. One outcome is an R house. But another outcome is a RINO house because the R’s want more districts than they can keep conservative. If the D’s take back a few states through illegal immigration and amnesty then the gerrymandering will switch the other way.


14 posted on 01/08/2013 7:37:31 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Longbow1969
Good grief, Obama beat Romney by almost 5 million votes.

Nonsense! The evidence is overwhelming . . . 140% of registered voters voted, 108% of registered voters voted, 100% of all votes in numerous counties nationwide voted for Obambi, etc. Machines all over the country changing votes to Obambi when the vote was cast for Romney.

It was stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen, stolen.

And the Republican Party stood by and collapsed. If this had happened to the dummycrats, we'd still be counting chads.

15 posted on 01/08/2013 7:38:53 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Thorliveshere
The republican party wants the positive press so bad they think if they surrender and turn into democRats they will survive. They don't realize that they are being setup to for their own extinction.
16 posted on 01/08/2013 7:39:50 AM PST by THE_RAIDER
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To: laweeks
Romney did win . . . the election was stolen

debunked. The R voters didn't turn out for Romney. A lot of them don't even bother registering. In VIrginia the motivated R counties (war on coal counties) only managed 50% of adults. The black D areas got 60% of their adults to vote.

17 posted on 01/08/2013 7:41:16 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: SeekAndFind
People should realize that Romney would be capitulating right now if he had won. There would be very little real difference. Romney was the Benedict Arnold of 2012.

Romney would be going after guns right now, exactly liek he did in Massachussetts..

Was there fraud ?...Yes. Would it matter right now ?...No.

18 posted on 01/08/2013 7:43:29 AM PST by SENTINEL (I lie, I cheat, I steal, I communize, I sacrifice unborn babies, I'm Harry Reid and I'm a mormon)
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To: SeekAndFind
Never the popular vote, never! If you think we have fraud now just wait until we have a popular vote, the big, and totally corrupt, cities will decide every election. I’m amazed at the people who don’t understand this!
19 posted on 01/08/2013 7:44:14 AM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: laweeks

Romney lost because his liberal base was not as large as Obama’s liberal base. If the GOP nominates another liberal in 2016 and again tries to outliberal te left, the GOP will lose again.


20 posted on 01/08/2013 7:45:15 AM PST by Tau Food (U)
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