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MILLER: White House goes after guns
The Washington Times ^ | 8 January, 2013 | Emily Miller

Posted on 01/09/2013 5:26:20 PM PST by marktwain

The White House just realized it had to at least pretend to listen to America’s 100 million gun owners. Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. invited a representative from the National Rifle Association (NRA) to attend a White House meeting with anti-gun groups scheduled to take place Thursday.

Up to now, gun owners have been left out of President Obama's task force seeking “solutions” to gun violence by the end of the month. The simultaneous high-profile media blitz is meant to ready the public for radical limits on the Second Amendment.

New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg appears to be calling the shots. The billionaire is exploiting the second anniversary of the shooting of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords with a new TV advertisement running in 20 markets where there have been mass shootings, including Tucson, Ariz.; Roanoke, Va.; Denver; and Milwaukee, along with Washington, D.C.

It features the mother of a 9-year-old girl killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School saying, “I have one question for our political leaders. When will you find the courage to stand up to the gun lobby?” Hizzoner’s “Demand a Plan” initiative intends to impose government background checks on private sales, ban guns that have certain cosmetic features and outlaw “high-capacity” magazines.

Ms. Giffords and her husband, Mark Kelly, announced Tuesday they have started “Americans for Responsible Solutions” to raise money to fight gun-rights groups. “We saw from the NRA leadership’s defiant and unsympathetic response to the Newtown, Conn., massacre that winning even the most common-sense reforms will require a fight,” the couple wrote in a USA Today op-ed.

They were not specific regarding what laws they will be pushing, but they hinted at a shared agenda with Mr. Bloomberg by suggesting the need to do something about “weapons designed for the battlefield”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment
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Where are all those people who told us that President Obama was not interested in taking guns from the people?

They should all be apologizing about now.

The number of guns that Americans own that were not "designed for the battlefield" is a minority.

Single shots: Designed for the battlefield

Bolt actions: Designed for the battlefield

Lever actions: Designed for the battlefield

Semi-autos: Designed for the battle field

There are a few that were not used in combat by the U.S. military... let me think... Oh, yeah, the Browning double auto! and... Holland and Holland double barreled elephant rifles... and there must be some more/S

1 posted on 01/09/2013 5:26:26 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LshCv0SAXE


2 posted on 01/09/2013 5:30:06 PM PST by skeeter
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To: marktwain

Actually the elephant rifles were used in WW I.


3 posted on 01/09/2013 5:30:20 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: marktwain
The Second Amendment is NOT about Duck Hunting !

4 posted on 01/09/2013 5:31:41 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: marktwain

I think I remember someone saying “Out of my cold dead hands!” Sounds good to me.


5 posted on 01/09/2013 5:35:00 PM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: marktwain

***Lever actions: Designed for the battlefield ****

For those not aware of it, Lever actions were used by some troops of the Union in the Civil War, and by the Turks against the Russians in the seige of Plevna.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Plevna

“On 11 September the Russians and Romanians made a large-scale assault on Plevna. The Ottoman forces were dug in and equipped with Krupp-manufactured steel breech-loading artillery and American-manufactured Winchester repeaters[1] and Peabody-Martini rifles. For three hours they poured murderous fire into the waves of advancing Russians..”

So you can see why California originally wanted to ban lever actions in their “assault rifle” ban.


6 posted on 01/09/2013 5:35:13 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GUNS.. the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”)
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To: marktwain

IMPEACH OBAMA NOW BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!


7 posted on 01/09/2013 5:39:00 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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To: marktwain
I'm going to go against the tide and say that I actually think the new gun crusade is the best thing that has happened to conservatives in years. The democrats have totally misread public opinion (calls to congress are running 9 to 1 against) and seriously overreached on gun control and are going to pay for it politically. I know people that aren't interested in politics that are mad as hell over this, and ready to ride the democrats out on a rail. After getting destroying in 1994, the democrats put on a pro-gun (or at least gun neutral) mask for 18 years. They fooled a lot of gun owners into believing they really had seen the light and guns didn't even register in 2008 or 2012. Well in three weeks they have manged to destroy every bridge they party had made with gun owners and not only that, they went so far toward gun control so fast that it was obvious that they never had any regard for 2nd amendment to begin with and it was all a sham.

I may be wrong, but I think they have done fatal damage to any chance of ever taking back the house for the next fifty years. The simple fact of the matter is, they CAN NOT take back the house without rural red state districts and no gun owner is ever going to be fooled again by a democrat claiming to be pro-gun.

Thank you for taking off the mask democrats and showing your true gun grabbing selves, we won't be fooled again...

8 posted on 01/09/2013 5:39:28 PM PST by apillar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
***Lever actions: Designed for the battlefield ****

The Spencer Rifle or Obama's favorite president Abraham Lincoln's rifle.

9 posted on 01/09/2013 5:41:08 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: marktwain

I have a rather interesting book I bought back in 1968.
HOW TO CONVERT MILITARY RIFLES published by Williams Gun sight company.

It shows the “evil” military rifle and below it shows how the “evil” rifle is converted into a “good” rifle.

How do you do it? Remove the stock, grind off the bayonet lug, bend the bolt, blue, put nice pretty stock on rifle, drill for scope and Voala! A rifle that won’t crawl off the gun rack and go about looking for people to kill!


10 posted on 01/09/2013 5:41:43 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GUNS.. the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

the 2nd ammendment is about INDIVIDUAL Liberty.

It’s about putting a 100 lb., 70 year old woman on equal footing as the 300 lb. rapist.

Why do all the gun grabbers side with murderers and rapists and not little old ladies? (Feel free to use that line dumb-ass Boehner)


11 posted on 01/09/2013 5:41:55 PM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

yeah libs have seen reruns of “the rifleman” and crapped their pants

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IVCwYPjFXc


12 posted on 01/09/2013 5:41:55 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: skeeter
Someone should ask Obama and Biden (Larry and Moe) if they have ever read the Second Amendment and ask them WHY the Second Amendment was added to the Constitution at the INSISTENCE of the framers....

Have a shovel handy for more BS than you can shovel.

Remember, Obama has already told Putin that our Constitution is DEAD !!!! (explicatives removed)

13 posted on 01/09/2013 5:42:15 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: apillar

Only if we escape from this without losing freedom. I am not going to sacrifice individual freedom for political power.


14 posted on 01/09/2013 5:42:24 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: marktwain

Yea, right about now, those who refused to vote for Romney have to bear some responsibility for this crisis. Let this be a lesson to all: If we ever get a chance to have a free election, we MUST hang together. We must stop voter fraud and we must vote for the Republican nominee.


15 posted on 01/09/2013 5:42:42 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: mosaicwolf

>>I think I remember someone saying “Out of my cold dead hands!” Sounds good to me.<<

The concept goes back thousands of years (see my tag)...


16 posted on 01/09/2013 5:43:51 PM PST by freedumb2003 (MOLON LABE)
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To: marktwain

I have a rather interesting book I bought back in 1968.
HOW TO CONVERT MILITARY RIFLES published by Williams Gun sight company.

It shows the “evil” military rifle and below it shows how the “evil” rifle is converted into a “good” rifle.

How do you do it? Remove the stock, grind off the bayonet lug, bend the bolt, blue, put nice pretty stock on rifle, drill for scope and Voala! A rifle that won’t crawl off the gun rack and go about looking for people to kill!

Wonder how soon Obama will be coming for my 1897 7MM Remington Rolling Block!


17 posted on 01/09/2013 5:43:59 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GUNS.. the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”)
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To: marktwain

We don’t have a gun problem, we have a society problem


18 posted on 01/09/2013 5:48:40 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The Russians also had a Winchester for a while... the Model 1895 in military “musket” configuration, chambering the 7.62x54R.


19 posted on 01/09/2013 5:49:03 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: marktwain

Gabby Gifford holding an AR in the middle east.

http://www.gilacourier.com/?p=6181


20 posted on 01/09/2013 5:49:17 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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