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Does 2nd Amendment give right to armed revolt?
heraldandnews.com ^ | 13 January, 2013 | Joel Mathis

Posted on 01/14/2013 4:08:51 PM PST by marktwain

The renewed debate over gun rights that has followed the massacre of elementary schoolchildren in Newtown, Conn., has included scrutiny over why gun advocates believe they need a right to bear arms. Among the reasons: Many advocates believe that individual gun ownership helps preserve American liberty, making government fearful of trampling on rights of its citizens. If government goes too far, the argument goes, Americans have the right to revolt by force.

Is that argument correct? Or does it belong to fringe gun enthusiasts?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; constitution; govtabuse; guncontrol; revolution; secondamendment; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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No comments at the site yet. While the author says that the right has not been exercised since the Civil War, it was actually exercised in the battle of Athens, TN, in 1946.

No comments at the site, and I am not able to log in, likely due to my operating system.

The author makes a silly claim about sacrificing generations of children for a right we will not use...

1 posted on 01/14/2013 4:09:01 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Nope, it provides the means to repel imposed tyranny.


2 posted on 01/14/2013 4:09:56 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

Molon Labe


3 posted on 01/14/2013 4:13:52 PM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: marktwain

Armed revolt, when necessary, isn’t a right — it’s a solemn responsibility.

What the second amendment does is to afford those who must reluctantly take on that sacred responsibility the possibility of succeeding at it.


4 posted on 01/14/2013 4:14:01 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Paladin2

The right to revolt is natural law.

Some are revolting by nature. Some are only revolting after hard work, others can not be revolting despite their best efforts.

Parallel and opposed to the right to revolt is the right to put down the insurrection. Not all revolts are won. Shays Rebellion, Whiskey Rebellion, Nat Turner’s rebellion, and the Great Rebellion show that it is easier to revolt than it is to win.

Isn’t that revolting?


5 posted on 01/14/2013 4:16:34 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: marktwain

There is no “right” to armed revolt. But, in some cases, it is the only solution. Always remember that rebellion begins as treason. You only become a patriot or freedom fighter if you win and get to write the history books.


6 posted on 01/14/2013 4:18:00 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: marktwain

The Japanese feared trying to invade the U.S. mainland during WWII, because as ADM. Yamamoto put it, “there will be gun behind every blade of grass.”


7 posted on 01/14/2013 4:18:26 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Nervous Tick

well said! no one wants to take on the responsibility lightly but when they do katie bar the door it will be like the attitude and action after Pearl Harbor hell hath no fury like a free man scorned.


8 posted on 01/14/2013 4:19:02 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: donmeaker

At least the Whisky Tax was rescinded a few years after the Rebellion.


9 posted on 01/14/2013 4:19:09 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: marktwain
"It" (the right to armed revolt) belonged first to Thomas Jefferson, who observed advisedly that "...the Tree of Liberty requires regular watering with the blood of tyrants."

Armed revolt is codified into our Founding Documents and principles, and is not just a legitimate birthright of every American citizen. It is also our deepest obligation, without which we dishonor and cast away as garbage the millions of human sacrifices made by the bravest patriots who came before us and gave up everything so that we may enjoy this right.

Bring it, all you "Gun Control" weenies. Go ahead and light this fuse, and we'll be soon enough rid of all of you.

Trust me.

;-\

10 posted on 01/14/2013 4:20:31 PM PST by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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This is the theme that will get pushed, and pushed now by the media. We need to take away the guns because the gun nuts want Civil War 2. I’m sure Dateline/60 minutes are already working on segments.


11 posted on 01/14/2013 4:20:46 PM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: donmeaker
Don't forget that the result of the riots of the 60's was more Free StuffTM for the cities that rioted.
12 posted on 01/14/2013 4:21:13 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

The U.S. Declaration of Independence states that “when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government”


13 posted on 01/14/2013 4:22:02 PM PST by Renegade
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“The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.”

Judge Alex Kozinski


14 posted on 01/14/2013 4:22:13 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Gargantua

It would be wise for those so inclined at the moment to use methods other than gunfire to send the appropriate message.


15 posted on 01/14/2013 4:23:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

It grants nothing. It simply recognizes the inherent right to possess the means to revolt.


16 posted on 01/14/2013 4:23:22 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: marktwain
And from our Declaration of Independence .....

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

It's becoming more and more clear what (sadly) may lie ahead this nation, once United.

17 posted on 01/14/2013 4:24:36 PM PST by llevrok (ObamaLand - Where young people go to retire)
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To: marktwain

Not the Second Amendment, the Declaration of Independence.


18 posted on 01/14/2013 4:25:53 PM PST by wastedyears (My life mostly completely turned around in a few weeks. Now to leave NY...)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

That crazy right-wing gun-nut Hubert Humphrey said roughly the same thing 40 years ago.


19 posted on 01/14/2013 4:26:07 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Renegade

You beat me to that, Renegade!


20 posted on 01/14/2013 4:26:25 PM PST by llevrok (ObamaLand - Where young people go to retire)
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