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A New Anti-Terror Front? Yes, the Government Thinks It’s ‘Right-Wing Extremists’
National Review Online ^ | January 18, 2013 | John Fund

Posted on 01/20/2013 6:42:42 PM PST by neverdem

The world is beset by terrorists — witness the American hostages taken in Algeria this week — but portions of our federal government continue to obsess about alleged home-grown threats from the “far right.”

The Combating Terrorism Center, which is based at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, has issued a new report on its website entitled

“Challengers from the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far-Right.”

Normally, the center’s activities are focused on al-Qaeda and other violent Islamic groups seeking to topple governments around the world. But the latest report looks inside America itself, and if the center is to be judged by the quality of its analysis in this report, it might be wise for all of us to be skeptical of its other work. The Center’s report lumps together entirely legitimate tea-party-style activists with three groups it says represent “a racist/white supremacy movement, an anti-federalist movement and a fundamentalist movement.” Together all these forces are said to have engaged in 350 “attacks initiated by far-right groups/individuals” in 2011, although the report never specifies what makes an attack a “far right” action. 

The report’s author is Arie Perliger, who directs the Center’s terrorism studies and teaches social sciences at West Point. I can only imagine what his classes are like as his report manages to lump together every known liberal stereotype about conservatives between its covers.

As Rowan Scarborough of the Washington Times, who broke news of the report on Thursday, recounts:

[The Center’s report] says anti-federalists “espouse strong convictions regarding the federal government, believing it to be corrupt and tyrannical, with a natural tendency to intrude on individuals’ civil and constitutional rights. Finally, they support civil activism, individual freedoms, and self government. Extremists in the anti-federalist movement direct most their violence against the federal government and its proxies in law enforcement.”

The report also draws a link between the mainstream conservative movement and the violent “far right,” and describes liberals as “future oriented” and conservatives as living in the past.

“While liberal worldviews are future- or progressive -oriented, conservative perspectives are more past-oriented, and in general, are interested in preserving the status quo,” the report says. “The far right represents a more extreme version of conservatism, as its political vision is usually justified by the aspiration to restore or preserve values and practices that are part of the idealized historical heritage of the nation or ethnic community.”

The report adds: “While far-right groups’ ideology is designed to exclude minorities and foreigners, the liberal-democratic system is designed to emphasize civil rights, minority rights and the balance of power.”

The Times quotes a congressional staffer who has served in the military calling the report a “junk study.” The staffer then asked: “The $64,000 dollar question is when will the Combating Terrorism Center publish their study on real left-wing terrorists like the Animal Liberation Front, Earth Liberation Front, and the Weather Underground?”

This is not the first time elements of the federal government have tried to smear conservatives with sloppy work and a broadbrush analysis.

In 2009, liberals in the Department of Homeland Security prepared a report defining “rightwing extremism in the United States” as including not just hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of federalism or local control. “It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration,” a footnote in the report warned.

The DHS report bore the ominous title: “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.” Sent to hundreds of local law enforcement officials, the report claimed that “right wing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African-American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning.”

A casual reader might have concluded that “attack planning” by said groups is inevitable. But the report is silent on just how the groups will attack, and indeed since 2009 there has been precious little evidence any of them ever did.

After much public ridicule, the DHS report vanished from public view as did a similar effort at the same time by the Missouri Highway Patrol, which had to retract its own report linking conservative groups with militia activity and mentioning 2008 presidential candidates Ron Paul and Bob Barr.

No one doubts the existence of racist and hate-filled groups that require monitoring. But both the DHS and West Point reports read as if they were laying the groundwork for a rhetorical attack on mainstream conservatism of the sort that President Clinton launched in the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995, when he blamed talk radio for stirring up anti-government passions. No one should be surprised if supporters of new gun-control measures begin justifying them by referring to the West Point report.

The Obama administration raised eyebrows back in 2009 when Janet Napolitano’s DHS substituted the phrase “man-made disasters” for the dangers posed by Islamic terrorism. My sources inside Congress tell me they continue to worry that efforts to monitor domestic Muslim extremists as well as interdiction efforts against radical Islamists crossing the U.S. border are sometimes put on the back burner. The government denies this, but it seems to me its protestations would be more persuasive if it spent less time producing half-baked warnings about the danger of “right-wing extremists.”



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americanterorists; arieperliger; perliger; terrorists; westpoint
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1 posted on 01/20/2013 6:42:47 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0
The screeching audio says it all.
2 posted on 01/20/2013 6:50:24 PM PST by FreedomOfExpression
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To: neverdem

Well then, so be it.

Those who birthed this nation and fought for freedom were also called terrorist.


3 posted on 01/20/2013 6:51:13 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: neverdem
The race card got Obama reelected—why should he ever put it back in the deck?
4 posted on 01/20/2013 6:55:45 PM PST by Happy Rain ("Banning guns over Adam Lanza would be like banning speech over Bill Maher.")
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To: neverdem

How extreme do these “extremists” have to be? What makes a person an extremist?


5 posted on 01/20/2013 6:59:03 PM PST by Antihero101607
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To: FreedomOfExpression

LOL!


6 posted on 01/20/2013 7:02:35 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Antihero101607; All

How extreme do these “extremists” have to be? What makes a person an extremist?

Simple. Following Orwell’s rule, anyone even thinking about opposing the regime is an extremist.


7 posted on 01/20/2013 7:13:31 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Antihero101607
What makes a person an extremist?

Rhetorical question, I'm sure. Belief in God, Country, Duty, Honor, Life-Long Commitment to your Wife or Husband (of the opposite sex), belief in Two-Parent families, belief that a marriage can ONLY be between one man and one woman, belief in the Protestant Work Ethic, belief in Judeo-Christian Values, belief in limited government, belief in the God-granted rights of the individual to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, belief that Collectivism in all its forms is pure unadulterated evil, belief in the wonders of free markets and the Invisible Hand to guide economic decision making, belief in the Rule of Law, not Rule of Man, belief that people are welcome to immigrate to the United States if they follow our immigration laws.

Belief in any or all of these simple tenets makes you an "extremist" these days.

8 posted on 01/20/2013 7:14:16 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: neverdem

I believe George Washington was a Right Wing Terrorist. In fact, he was the leader of the insurgents. Liberals of today would have killed or betrayed George Washington


9 posted on 01/20/2013 7:20:02 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: realcleanguy
Right Wing classically included Royalists in its bounds. George Washington was an anti-Royalist. There's simply no way he could be considered Right Wing.

Remember, American political life is laid out along different lines than were applicable to the French national assembly in the 1790s.

10 posted on 01/20/2013 7:31:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
How big a Gun does Anyone Need?

What Does It Mean to Say That a Gun Law Is Tough?

Obama’s far-reaching gun-proposals face uncertain fate in divided Congress

Gun Sales and Background Checks: Obama’s Bogus 40 Percent Stat

Some noteworthy articles about politics, foreign or military affairs, IMHO, FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

11 posted on 01/20/2013 7:36:19 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
How big a Gun does Anyone Need?

What Does It Mean to Say That a Gun Law Is Tough?

Obama’s far-reaching gun-proposals face uncertain fate in divided Congress

Gun Sales and Background Checks: Obama’s Bogus 40 Percent Stat

Some noteworthy articles about politics, foreign or military affairs, IMHO, FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

12 posted on 01/20/2013 7:37:19 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: muawiyah

Actually I disagree. And, the typical honest American who owns a gun feels infringed upon by an over authoritarian government.

Heavy regulations were enforced upon the Colonists in the late 1700’s that forced them to make a decision to break from that type of government. Today, heavy regulations from an authoritarian government is forcing a segment of the population to make a stand politically from the leadership. Which would mean the real Right Wing leadership is the democrats. Quite a twist when you look at the facts


13 posted on 01/20/2013 7:40:47 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: realcleanguy
i'm sorry you feel that way. my Scottish ancestors arrived in 1702 ready for a fight. just a matter of time for them. And the French ancestors? A number of them arrived as White Coats prepared to fight to save North America from a foreign invader ~ to wit, the Brits. When George Rogers Clark came to their town (where they'd prepared to make a last stand) they signed up in his militia forces without a moment's hesitation.

There were latecomers to the battle ~ they started showing up about 1775 ~ but they were still latecomers.

The French, Spanish, Swedish, Dutch, Germans, and many of the Iroquis (Oneida mostly, but thousands of other non-confederation Iroquois) thought the Revolution was long overdue ~ about time ~ definitely something that should have started earlier.

You can look it up ~ the Cahokia militia rushed to Fort St. Joseph in Michigan to turn back the English ~ they took the only flag they had ~ that of Spain!

BTW, Spain was an ally in that war.

If you disagree with me you are saying the only issue in the Revolution was a small armory in New England that held the gunpowder so vital to life in those days.

14 posted on 01/20/2013 7:48:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

I would say a few things, but will probably cause more discussions. :o) First of all this is not South vs the North thing. Old news and not the same situation. This is an all of us Americans fighting against communism issue. %80 of the American Military is conservative, God fearing, patriotic Americans that will not turn their guns on Americans. This is why, one of many reasons, obummer wants to sequester the military. Oh yes, for side a note. F-22 Raptors, made in Texas. The Bradley and current MRAPS used in the middle east right now, made in Louisiana. Just saying. In fact, how about some military people from Louisiana now.

A-10 Warthog Gun Runs At Claiborne Bombing and Gunnery Range
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=edc_1358726228


15 posted on 01/20/2013 8:02:36 PM PST by Capt.Michaels (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: neverdem

“While liberal worldviews are future- or progressive -oriented,”

Yeah, like Russia in 1918.


16 posted on 01/20/2013 8:03:09 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: neverdem

The report adds: “While far-right groups’ ideology is designed to exclude minorities and foreigners, the liberal-democratic system is designed to emphasize civil rights, minority rights and the balance of power.”

Yes, liberals look upon minorities as useful idiots or a dependent constituency that keeps the liberal elite in power.

They are for a balance of power as long as that balance is with them in their elitist circle.

Having someone like this at West Point further illustrates the left’s infiltration of all education institutions. They play the long war. They will further indoctrinate our men and women military officers to do their bidding.


17 posted on 01/20/2013 8:12:00 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: neverdem
Finally, they support civil activism, individual freedoms, and self government.

Gosh. They better keep a close eye on this guy:

"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."

-- James Madison, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution and our fourth President


18 posted on 01/20/2013 8:14:05 PM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 01/20/2013 8:19:32 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: headstamp 2

> “While liberal worldviews are future- or progressive -oriented,”
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> Yeah, like Russia in 1918.

I’m pretty future-minded — which is precisely why I don’t like the direction our government’s going, or has been going, for far longer than I’ve been at all interested in politics. (When I was 12 or so I thought the government shouldn’t heap up debts — that was in the 90s.)


20 posted on 01/20/2013 8:28:12 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: neverdem

If a left wing extremist wants to brand me as a right wing extremist, I can live with that and respond in kind. They will never silence the truth.


21 posted on 01/20/2013 8:36:23 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: realcleanguy
I believe George Washington was a Right Wing Terrorist. In fact, he was the leader of the insurgents. Liberals of today would have killed or betrayed George Washington


22 posted on 01/20/2013 8:47:34 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: neverdem

Save


23 posted on 01/20/2013 9:15:24 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: neverdem

It’s hard to believe this came from West Point. This Arie Perliger needs to be removed from West Point as I didn’t know they employed communists. I hope our West Point cadets reject this man and his “report”.


24 posted on 01/20/2013 9:39:13 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: muawiyah

Royalists, Dictators, Communists, Fascists, Socialists and liberals (progressives) are all left wing. This is on of the fundamental myths the left pushes; that left wing competitors are actually right wing. The left sees chaos and tries to dictate order. The right sees complexity and embraces freedom. Libertarians are actually the farthest right. That is because the right embraces freedom and not anarchy. Conservatives are in the middle of the right wing. The Tea party is in the middle of the right wing. The so called moderates are defined by their willingness to give up some level of freedom for some perceived good. The problem with that is: the perceived good never occurs, often backfires and the freedom is gone. Conservatives have the wisdom to know this and defend their freedoms.


25 posted on 01/20/2013 10:06:08 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: neverdem
This is not a joke. I have it on good authority that standard security training for government workers and contractors lists first among potential threats: not terrorists, not foreign agents or criminal elements, but "anti-government groups."

The implications here were stunning to me when I heard this, but I'm sure not an eyebrow is raised by 99% of these folks. Among them this view is de rigueur: That government exists to serve government, that this is the greatest good, and that any opposed to that end are the enemy.

Much as how cancer views the body of the host as an enemy, so too does this government view the body of the nation that hosts it. That's just how it is inside the Beltway.

26 posted on 01/20/2013 11:06:58 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: neverdem
The Democrats have been trying to sell this meme ever since the days of Janet Reno, if not before. IRRC, the Clinton administration hired a screaming maniac named Mark Pitcavage as a "consultant". Pitcavages only claim to fame was to fill verious internet fora with "the militia are EVIL".

Pitcavage was right in there with the "Southern Poverty Law Center", the "Anti-Defamation League", and similar groups.

27 posted on 01/21/2013 4:15:18 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Revolutionary
That's not actually the way the French Legislative Assembly thought of itself. In 1791/92 they continued to have a problem with the Royalist ~ who were, in fact, the Right.

As I have said many, many, many times none of this applies to American politics since, as it turns out, we don't have a CENTER ~ we even have a different political history than France.

If you want to discuss the Founders you need to discuss our Founders, not their Founders, nor modern concepts.

George Washington formally rejected being a monarch ~ and that's all it takes to NOT be a monarchist or royalist. He also rebelled against a King ~ guy was called George III of the then ruling regime in most of North America.

28 posted on 01/21/2013 4:37:42 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: neverdem
I for one happen to think the biggest threat to this nation's security and our personal liberties happens to be the Obama Administration.

Obama is a far bigger threat IMO than anything Al-Qaeda could do to this country.

29 posted on 01/21/2013 4:40:30 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: neverdem

Really depends on your point of view and level of sanity in my book...; )


30 posted on 01/21/2013 4:42:38 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Windflier
George Washington began his own personal revolution at Mount Vernon decades earlier when he began experimenting with crop rotation schemes that would enable him to make money without depending on the colonial trading system devised and imposed by England.

He rejected being a monarch himself. He rebelled against a King.

In his day the French perceived they'd come up with some sort of left/right dichotomy balanced on a center. George wasn't part of that. He was an American of a very special revolutionary class. If you hadn't noticed, he wasn't French either.

To be a Conservative in America you must first reject the notion that left/right dichotomies have any relevance for us. You are with us, or you are against us ~ there is no center!

Government agents who dwell extensively on the left/right thesis and try to apply it to Americans are the enemy and must be rejected out of hand.

31 posted on 01/21/2013 4:44:02 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: usconservative

Anti-federalists? You mean the current people in power. Yes. They set acting like the enemy. I bet if we asked our founding fathers who the terrorists were he would point to the current CIC and his regime.


32 posted on 01/21/2013 4:46:00 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower
Statist utopians, like radical Islamists, have no sense of humor, so mockery is effective.


33 posted on 01/21/2013 4:46:11 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

a photo of the author. Now tell me you are surprised...lol:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Arie+Perliger&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&tbo=d&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=_zf9UOPQHMae2wWO1oHwBQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAA&biw=1024&bih=660#biv=i|0;d|aOq8G6RtU9ciSM:


34 posted on 01/21/2013 4:53:01 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Didn’t work. Maybe this will:

http://commcgi.cc.stonybrook.edu/am2/publish/General_University_News_2/SBU_Welcomes_Noted_Professor_And_Scholar_Dr_Arie_Perliger_As_Schusterman_Visiting_Israeli_Professor.shtml


35 posted on 01/21/2013 4:56:00 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

The article is written by a liberal Jew and is completely subjective and based on his own personal views and is not fact. Once again intellectualism is used to create dissension because we all know that if you continuously use 3 - 5 syllable words in your biased article because you hate federalists yet call them ant-federalists to put a target on their backs that it means you are smarter than your audience and know what’s best for them...sheesh

Our terrorists have seized thereigns and are calling us the enemy. Hopefully the troops will be intelligent enough to know ego the real terrorists are if they are dispatched to deal with them.


36 posted on 01/21/2013 5:11:03 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: neverdem

He did not mention the American holocaust that he fears


37 posted on 01/21/2013 5:14:46 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: neverdem
Good morning.

Perliger's article at West Point is just another so called "study," in the continuous drum beat to gin up hate against Americans who believe in the Constitution. These and other articles in the state controlled media will be used to influence public opinion to disarm law abiding Americans.

Since this "study," is directed at the officer corp, 0bama will more than likely have most of the military follow his orders when the time comes. Oh, make no mistake about it, the time will come.

5.56mm

38 posted on 01/21/2013 5:42:08 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: neverdem; Liz; LucyT
The Times quotes a congressional staffer who has served in the military calling the report a “junk study.” The staffer then asked: “The $64,000 dollar question is when will the Combating Terrorism Center publish their study on real left-wing terrorists like the Animal Liberation Front, Earth Liberation Front, and the Weather Underground?”

This is not the first time elements of the federal government have tried to smear conservatives with sloppy work and a broadbrush analysis.

In 2009, liberals in the Department of Homeland Security prepared a report defining “rightwing extremism in the United States” as including not just hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of federalism or local control. “It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration,” a footnote in the report warned.

This started with Hillary's 'vast right wing conspiracy' an idea that collapsed as soon as the light of day was shown on it's idiocy. It became a joke. But the people who started that totalitarian lie - the Southern Poverty Lawlessness Center - just slunk underground.

Considering the MSM is owned by the democrats - if there was ANY current information about violent right wingers it would be covered in every effing suck up newspaper in the country. They carry water for dems - and if dems had proof we would hear about it... non stop.

39 posted on 01/21/2013 8:40:16 AM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: muawiyah
To be a Conservative in America you must first reject the notion that left/right dichotomies have any relevance for us. You are with us, or you are against us ~ there is no center!

That comment tugs at my inner American. I've long held the consideration that our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution supersede, and rise far above, mere partisan politics (and they do).

When having the rare civil conversation about politics with my liberal kin, I've attempted to convey to them that I care less for political labels and the interminable wars of red vs blue, and more for the timeless concepts of freedom and liberty contained in our founding documents.

For a long time, I've thought that simply calling myself a conservative patriot should make that stance plain to anyone, but unfortunately, we conservatives are easily sucked into partisan politics, and allow ourselves to be defined and firmly positioned within the Republican party by the enemies of the republic.

In this way, we set ourselves up to engage in battles that the enemy has great potential to win. They've been mostly winning this game since Woodrow Wilson's day, and we still haven't learned.

With the emergence of the Tea Party, I believed that we patriots had finally coalesced into a nationwide movement that forwarded the higher concepts of our founding, yet with applied political muscle. I still believe the Tea Party is capable of this, though it's going to take determination and persistence to achieve the results we seek.

When I look at what it is we're attempting to preserve and restore in this great country, I see our sacred founding principles and fundamentals of government organization. That's what the founding generation fought, sacrificed, and died for. Not partisan politics.

40 posted on 01/21/2013 9:48:30 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: GOPJ
"This is not the first time elements of the federal government have tried to smear conservatives with sloppy work and a broadbrush analysis."

and it won't be the last either...

41 posted on 01/21/2013 5:04:04 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem

They are laying the groundwork to attack mainstream conservatives. It’s their M.O.

We’re up against a billion dollar media, a government school system, and the government itself.

I actually like daunting odds. I’m a big fan of the underdog.


42 posted on 01/21/2013 6:35:58 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Chode

Obama used the word ‘Constitution’ - that’s code for right wing extremist. I’ll bet the Southern Poverty Law Center is up in arms... You’re right - they paint us with a broad brush - and they’ll do it as often as they can. The good thing is the American people are catching on...


43 posted on 01/21/2013 7:57:58 PM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: GOPJ
i pray it's true
44 posted on 01/21/2013 8:06:31 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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>> The Combating Terrorism Center, which is based at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point,

Commie scumbags infiltrate West Point...

45 posted on 01/22/2013 11:22:52 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: Marcella

Think about West Point. Think about his area of expertise (terrorism); then think about OpSec. Then look at Arie’s facebook page and laugh...
https://www.facebook.com/arie.perliger


46 posted on 01/24/2013 4:38:17 AM PST by HogsBreath
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To: Windflier; muawiyah; neverdem

What a great thread, Neverdem, thanks for the post. I am late to this...

Muawiyah and Windflier, I enjoyed your comments (mainly directed at each other).

I think you agree with each other more than you think. Both of you will probably disagree with me because you appreciate subtleties that I probably miss, but maybe not — I advocate you both re-read it all because you seem to be to be substantially on the same team.

Either way, you are both so smart, and write so well. I will be a better thinker and writer and speaker as a result of reading your posts in FR! I think other will be too.

Thanks!


47 posted on 01/27/2013 1:01:59 PM PST by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: Revolutionary
Wow, GREAT comment worth repeating "downthread":

"Royalists, Dictators, Communists, Fascists, Socialists and liberals (progressives) are all left wing. This is on of the fundamental myths the left pushes; that left wing competitors are actually right wing. The left sees chaos and tries to dictate order. The right sees complexity and embraces freedom. Libertarians are actually the farthest right. That is because the right embraces freedom and not anarchy. Conservatives are in the middle of the right wing. The Tea party is in the middle of the right wing. The so called moderates are defined by their willingness to give up some level of freedom for some perceived good. The problem with that is: the perceived good never occurs, often backfires and the freedom is gone. Conservatives have the wisdom to know this and defend their freedoms."

Thanks!

48 posted on 01/27/2013 1:05:40 PM PST by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: Weirdad

Thanks for the compliment. you must have noticed that most of my targets write well.


49 posted on 01/27/2013 3:32:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Antihero101607
What makes a person an extremist?

Charles A. Beard:

"You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence."

50 posted on 01/27/2013 3:36:08 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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