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Japan Threatens To Fire On Chinese Fighters — China Says 'There Will Be No Second Shot'
TBI ^ | 1-21-2013 | Robert Johnson

Posted on 01/21/2013 3:11:54 PM PST by blam

Japan Threatens To Fire On Chinese Fighters — China Says 'There Will Be No Second Shot'

Robert Johnson
January 21, 2013, 2:35 PM

When Chinese and Japanese fighters met for the first time over disputed islands in the East China Sea earlier this month, Japan promptly declared its right to fire tracers at China's jets.

Though met with outrage by China at the time, Japan continues promoting the live firing which Chinese military academics are calling the "first shot."

“Every country has procedures for how to deal with a violation of its territory that continues after multiple cautionary measures,” Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera said Wednesday when asked if tracer shots would be fired against intruding aircraft that refuse to change course. “We have response measures ready that are consistent with global standards.”

If Japan is using the talk of tracer fire to gauge Chinese reaction, the tactic worked.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry said Sunday his country is on "high alert" and that Japan and the U.S. are ignoring the fact that "the islands are China’s inherent territory."

Never to be left out, Chinese military academics quoted in Beijing's state-run media provided far more fiery replies:

“Japan’s desire to fire tracer warning shots as a way of frightening the Chinese is nothing but a joke that shows the stupidity, cruelty and failure to understand their own limitations,” Maj. Gen. Peng Guangqian of the Chinese Academy of Military Sciences was quoted saying by the China News Service and other state media.

“Firing tracer bullets is a type of provocation; it’s firing the first shot,” he said. “Were Japan to dare to fire tracers, which is to say fire the first shot, then China wouldn’t stint on responding and not allow them to fire the second shot.”

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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Japan; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: china; islands; japan; obamasfault; surrenderobama; war; waronterror
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To: Spktyr

A careful study by some US Naval War College authors, including information from an internal Japanese study leaked by the Japanese press, is that it would take 3-5 years for the Japanese to develop a usable nuclear warhead.


21 posted on 01/21/2013 3:59:53 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: andyk
This is curious isn't it? Both the Japanese and the Chinese are fully aware that tracer rounds can destroy a plane. The Japanese learned that in WWII and the Chinese learned that in the Korean war.

To me, the firing of a tracer is like the proverbial "shot across the bow." It means that the person firing the shot wants the other person to know that the round was real and if it were meant to hit, it would have.

22 posted on 01/21/2013 4:00:06 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: GraceG

If a war breaks out, I don’t see that helping their economy. They depend on exports. Initiating action against Japan would kill their exports to Japan and the US among others. It would be economic suicide.


23 posted on 01/21/2013 4:02:51 PM PST by kabar
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To: OKSooner

Mothra !!!! /S


24 posted on 01/21/2013 4:03:12 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Noumenon

Wouldn’t that be a great sketch on SNL?


25 posted on 01/21/2013 4:03:13 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: OKSooner

Half the time that weapon is used on Japan itself though.


26 posted on 01/21/2013 4:03:44 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Strategerist

I saw something about that - more than 10 years go. I’m reasonably sure the Japanese have one by now. So are a number of other experts.


27 posted on 01/21/2013 4:04:20 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: OKSooner
"Waiting, in the depths of the Pacific ocean - just waiting, waiting for the right moment to reveal itself. "


28 posted on 01/21/2013 4:05:13 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: OKSooner
No one messes with Japan and gets away with it.

Not sure what you are saying here. The U.S. certainly "messed" with the Japs after they attacked us on Dec. 7, 1941 and the emperor's representative was present on the deck of the Missouri to sign the surrender papers. I would call that messing with them and getting away with it.

29 posted on 01/21/2013 4:07:49 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: Strategerist
maybe a compact W88 type high yield thermonuclear weapon, but... simpler devices, i'm thinking not so much
30 posted on 01/21/2013 4:26:48 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: blam

Obama offers to hold a beer summit, can’t we all just get along?


31 posted on 01/21/2013 4:36:04 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun
Obama offers to hold a beer summit, can’t we all just get along?

I'm afraid beer won't cut it. They need a saki/biajiu summit.

32 posted on 01/21/2013 4:42:58 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: gaijin

6. Buying a couple of our Ohio Class subs would also work. Better we sell them to Japan then give them to China.


33 posted on 01/21/2013 4:53:59 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I own a weapon to protect my family from those wanting to take that weapon away.)
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To: GraceG

You might be pretty close to the truth. I read on another site that there are 30,000,000 to 40,000 ,000 more men in the 20 - 40 year old range than there are women, owing to the one child edict. Girl babies are either aborted or killed. That leaves the guys with an unsatisfied testosterone problem. The theory is that China will initiate a war using these guys as cannon fodder. Not looking good. sd


34 posted on 01/21/2013 5:01:44 PM PST by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: mc5cents

That’s because we never woke Godzilla


35 posted on 01/21/2013 5:02:04 PM PST by winodog (Thank you Jesus for the calm in my life)
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To: blam

Im leaning toward supporting China on tis one. Both are difficult to belieeve and always have a hidden agenda - but after working for the Japanese - ill support China.


36 posted on 01/21/2013 5:08:05 PM PST by Moleman
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To: Strategerist
A careful study by some US Naval War College authors, including information from an internal Japanese study leaked by the Japanese press, is that it would take 3-5 years for the Japanese to develop a usable nuclear warhead.

But when was that study made?

37 posted on 01/21/2013 5:13:44 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: mc5cents

They spent years in China from circa 1932 to 1945 and failed to conqueror her as well.


38 posted on 01/21/2013 5:18:35 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: BenLurkin

Wow! Barry can paint some wood shelving. Good for him, glad he found something he can do.

He sure makes a piss-poor president.

bobo


39 posted on 01/21/2013 5:44:03 PM PST by bobo1 (the KDE plasma desktop is awesome!)
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To: GraceG
I think China is spoiling for a conflict because their economy is about to collapse and without war they will most certainly collapse....

Hold your cards folks, I think we have a BINGO!

I hear so much stuff about how great the China economy is. The economies of all the big players of the world are built on a house of cards. When one of these players collapses, the rest are soon to follow, including China.

40 posted on 01/21/2013 6:08:48 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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