Help with Texas CHL question (vanity)

Vanity | 1/23/2013 | Feckless

[Feckless]

My employer (TxDOT) is requiring a xerox copy of my CHL

[Feckless]

My employer (TxDOT) is requiring a xerox copy of my CHL (which I have not admitted having)to put in my personnel file. My understanding of the law is that I have to show or surrender my CHL to a Commissioned Peace Officer, period.

[JRandomFreeper]

Didn't TxDOT just rule that employees are allowed to carry while working?

/johnny

[Farmer Dean]

Let them talk to your lawyer.

[Tupelo]

My guess is, if you enjoy working there, You need to let them copy your CHL.
You may be correct in that you only HAVE to show it to a Commissioned Police Officer. But TxDOT does not HAVE to keep you employed.

[Feckless]

yes, and that’s why they say they need it...BS I know but I want back up before I break it off in their @$$. I’m posting a question to the DPS CHL site but thought I’d see if anyone else is getting messed with

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Is the fact that you have a CHL publicly available information?

[old curmudgeon]

I am not a Texan so I have no idea what the laws are but:

I would guess that if you are going to carry on the job that the employer has the right to know that you really do have a permit.

Otherwise there might be employees carrying on the job who do not have a permit and if one of them gets into a shooting incident the employer could be held liable for any damages.

You have to remember that there are conditions under which an employer is held liable for damages or injury done to others while the employee is on the job.

Thank your employer for allowing you to carry and cooperate.

[mylife]

If TxDOT is going to allow you to carry while on company business I would just give it to them.

[JRandomFreeper]

If it was me? I'd spend $300/$400 or whatever and talk to my lawyer.

I'd also let HR know that I had turned to question over to counsel, and I will respond when I hear back from him.

It's very important to not let burro-craps bully you into anything, and let them know they won't.

But if they have law and regulation on their side, and your job is at risk, then it's a gut check.

I can walk away from pretty much any situation, but some folks have mortgages, payments, etc... and can't do that.

Asking questions instead of telling them to get bent is probably a good idea. ;)

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

I assume TXDot is a state agency, but they should not have access to CHL records.

I think that's who pays for State Troopers, if I'm not mistaken... It's a large, sprawling agency...

So yeah, they probably have legitimate access to the CHL records.

/johnny

[yldstrk]

you aren’t going to break off anything, that will get you exactly nowhere. You are on the government payroll and better say how high when they say jump. They are exempt from suit and you, unfortunately, are powerless.

[JRandomFreeper]

TxDOT is a state agency. Your taxes and mine pay for the agency. It's not a company. No company allows that many people to lean on shovels at a job site.

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

Different rules down here.

/johnny

[batterycommander]

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=59545

[yldstrk]

yeah bull sheet, peons don’t dictate to state agencies

[hadaclueonce]

Just give TXDOT a picture of a shovel standing up by it’s self.

They will give you a raise since the can get rid of the three guys that are usually standing around looking at it.

[JRandomFreeper]

Agencies don't dictate to peons, without legislative authority. Unless the peon doesn't have any sand, and won't ask a few questions.

Lots of folks around here don't just bend over when told to. I don't know how it works in your state.

/johnny

[mnehring]

For once, this is a positive thing. TxDOT is now allowing CHL holders to carry at the workplace.

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=60931

If you don’t want to disclose your CHL, just tell them you have no plans to carry on the job or in a TxDOT vehicle. Having a copy of your CHL is for reference if you plan to carry at work.