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Help with Texas CHL question (vanity)
Vanity | 1/23/2013 | Feckless

Posted on 01/23/2013 7:19:05 PM PST by Feckless

My employer (TxDOT) is requiring a xerox copy of my CHL


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: chl; texas
My employer (TxDOT) is requiring a xerox copy of my CHL (which I have not admitted having)to put in my personnel file. My understanding of the law is that I have to show or surrender my CHL to a Commissioned Peace Officer, period.
1 posted on 01/23/2013 7:19:11 PM PST by Feckless
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To: Feckless
Didn't TxDOT just rule that employees are allowed to carry while working?

/johnny

2 posted on 01/23/2013 7:22:03 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Feckless

Let them talk to your lawyer.


3 posted on 01/23/2013 7:23:14 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Feckless
My guess is, if you enjoy working there, You need to let them copy your CHL.
You may be correct in that you only HAVE to show it to a Commissioned Police Officer. But TxDOT does not HAVE to keep you employed.
4 posted on 01/23/2013 7:25:55 PM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: JRandomFreeper

yes, and that’s why they say they need it...BS I know but I want back up before I break it off in their @$$. I’m posting a question to the DPS CHL site but thought I’d see if anyone else is getting messed with


5 posted on 01/23/2013 7:26:28 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Feckless

Is the fact that you have a CHL publicly available information?


6 posted on 01/23/2013 7:26:42 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Feckless

I am not a Texan so I have no idea what the laws are but:

I would guess that if you are going to carry on the job that the employer has the right to know that you really do have a permit.

Otherwise there might be employees carrying on the job who do not have a permit and if one of them gets into a shooting incident the employer could be held liable for any damages.

You have to remember that there are conditions under which an employer is held liable for damages or injury done to others while the employee is on the job.

Thank your employer for allowing you to carry and cooperate.


7 posted on 01/23/2013 7:30:40 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Feckless
I'd have a problem with the fact they seem to know you have one. I assume TXDot is a state agency, but they should not have access to CHL records.

I would personally just let them have a copy, IF they already knew I had one, and I didn't want to quit my job over it.

That said, I would be raising a little hell with my state reps over it!

8 posted on 01/23/2013 7:30:54 PM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: Feckless

If TxDOT is going to allow you to carry while on company business I would just give it to them.


9 posted on 01/23/2013 7:31:04 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Feckless
If it was me? I'd spend $300/$400 or whatever and talk to my lawyer.

I'd also let HR know that I had turned to question over to counsel, and I will respond when I hear back from him.

It's very important to not let burro-craps bully you into anything, and let them know they won't.

But if they have law and regulation on their side, and your job is at risk, then it's a gut check.

I can walk away from pretty much any situation, but some folks have mortgages, payments, etc... and can't do that.

Asking questions instead of telling them to get bent is probably a good idea. ;)

/johnny

10 posted on 01/23/2013 7:36:07 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
I assume TXDot is a state agency, but they should not have access to CHL records.

I think that's who pays for State Troopers, if I'm not mistaken... It's a large, sprawling agency...

So yeah, they probably have legitimate access to the CHL records.

/johnny

11 posted on 01/23/2013 7:38:53 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Feckless

you aren’t going to break off anything, that will get you exactly nowhere. You are on the government payroll and better say how high when they say jump. They are exempt from suit and you, unfortunately, are powerless.


12 posted on 01/23/2013 7:38:53 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: mylife
TxDOT is a state agency. Your taxes and mine pay for the agency. It's not a company. No company allows that many people to lean on shovels at a job site.

/johnny

13 posted on 01/23/2013 7:40:32 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: yldstrk
Different rules down here.

/johnny

14 posted on 01/23/2013 7:42:08 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

After I posted I saw the post that TXDot is going to allow employees to carry on the job. IF that is true, then I would gladly let them have their photocopy, and go on about “MY” business.


15 posted on 01/23/2013 7:45:43 PM PST by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
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To: Feckless

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=59545


16 posted on 01/23/2013 7:46:26 PM PST by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: JRandomFreeper

yeah bull sheet, peons don’t dictate to state agencies


17 posted on 01/23/2013 7:49:17 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Feckless

Just give TXDOT a picture of a shovel standing up by it’s self.

They will give you a raise since the can get rid of the three guys that are usually standing around looking at it.


18 posted on 01/23/2013 7:59:04 PM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: yldstrk
Agencies don't dictate to peons, without legislative authority. Unless the peon doesn't have any sand, and won't ask a few questions.

Lots of folks around here don't just bend over when told to. I don't know how it works in your state.

/johnny

19 posted on 01/23/2013 7:59:39 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Feckless

For once, this is a positive thing. TxDOT is now allowing CHL holders to carry at the workplace.

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=60931

If you don’t want to disclose your CHL, just tell them you have no plans to carry on the job or in a TxDOT vehicle. Having a copy of your CHL is for reference if you plan to carry at work.


20 posted on 01/23/2013 8:04:45 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Feckless

Call your govemor. Someone is getting abead of themselves.


21 posted on 01/23/2013 8:16:12 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Feckless

Actually, you don’t even have to show it to a peace officer anymore. (But, they will know you have one if they run your ID.) My local CHL instructor says you don’t have to show it to anybody.


22 posted on 01/23/2013 8:56:47 PM PST by eastexsteve
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To: Feckless
Just another reason not to get a CHL.
CHL's are just backdoor registration.
23 posted on 01/23/2013 11:57:12 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

Dang I thought it was Central Hockey League.

Ft. Worth is in 3rd place.

http://chl.stats.pointstreak.com/standings.html?leagueid=12&seasonid=9603


24 posted on 01/24/2013 4:26:13 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: Feckless

What harm do you imagine will come to you from your giving them copy of your license? Especially if it is given in the context of them allowing you to carry on the job?


25 posted on 01/24/2013 10:13:42 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

“They” are not allowing me to carry on the job, the law is. It’s a matter of principal, they don’t the authority under the law.


26 posted on 01/24/2013 1:42:36 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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