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Massachusetts' Plan to Ban, Confiscate Firearms, Ammunition
Gun Owners Action League | 1/25/13 | Wallace

Posted on 01/25/2013 1:30:57 PM PST by pabianice

Our Second Amendment Right to Keep and Bear Arms is under attack on many fronts.

Governor Deval Patrick, Representative David Linsky (D) Natick, and many others are in the process of, or already have filed new legislation which will severely restrict our second amendment rights while doing NOTHING to solve any real issues.

Once again our state legislators are committing "Blame and Punishment" of Massachusetts gun owners.

Among the many things our legislators are proposing:

10 round magazines loaded with more than 7 rounds, punishable by more than two years in jail.

Magazines containing more than 10 rounds, punishable by up to 10 years in jail.

Potential confiscation of lawfully purchased long guns and high capacity magazines (greater than 10 round capacity).

A complete ban on semi-automatic rifles with certain cosmetic features. (AR type rifles)

Up to 2 ½ years in jail for receiving more than 1 gun or magazine in a 30-day period.

Mandatory large capacity guns storage at gun clubs instead of in home.

Lawful private sales recorded on FA-10 forms will no longer be allowed.

Ban "high power" ammunition. (there's been no definition provided as to what that is)

Expanding local licensing authorities discretion to deny or restrict licenses to all guns including FID cards.

Mandatory insurance for all firearms owners. (see link for more info)

New proposed sales tax aimed at firearms/ammo purchase. (this has not been clarified)

Mental and physical health waivers to be signed upon applying for a gun license

Creating new crimes of assault with a firearm that requires no physical action by the lawful possessor


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2damendment; banglist; domesticenemy; guncontrol; secondamendment
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More on Mandatory Firearm Insurance

In recent weeks we have been deluged with legislative proposals attacking our Second Amendment Civil Rights in the wake of the horrific murders in Connecticut. One such proposal has been mandatory liability insurance for anyone lawfully owning any type of gun. Lawful gun owners rightfully consider this to be simply another way to tax gun ownership. They are of course correct on that assumption, but this proposal goes much deeper and is much more insidious!

The anti-civil rights movement would gladly add taxes to our ability to lawfully possess guns, but the real purpose for mandatory insurance is to avoid the legislative and regulatory process altogether. The real purpose for insurance is to bring the “power” of the insurance companies against the Second Amendment. What does that mean? Our opposition has crafted a new way to attack us through the potential policies of private insurance companies who make up their own rules as to whom they insure and under what circumstances. Here are some possible examples of how these attacks could happen:

Mandatory storage laws currently exist in Massachusetts. An insurance company as a condition of coverage could mandate an inspection of how you are complying with those laws. They could easily mandate the most expensive safes or even where those safes are kept.

If you keep a loaded gun in the home for defensive measures, insurance premiums could be drastically increased or simply not provided.

As so-called new technologies are proposed for firearms such as GPS locators insurance companies could mandate that all of our guns are “updated” as a condition of insurance.

These companies could use bogus statistics from groups like the Violence Policy Center as a means of raising premiums for the ownership of certain firearms or deny coverage outright.

If you have children in your home or perhaps an aging parent or spouse, companies can mandate certain conditions or again deny coverage.

They could insist that ballistic information about your firearms be submitted to them and in return the government. The excuse used would be to defend a claim by using such info.

Insurance companies would also be able to go after the industry as well. Federal legislation was passed years ago to prevent the firearms industry to be bankrupted from bogus lawsuits. However, the insurance companies would not bring lawsuits, but instead more insurance “policies” about what can be sold to their customers and how they should be manufactured.

In the case that an insurance company chooses not to cover people for any reason, the mandatory insurance would then be provided by the government. This would further regulate how you obtain your insurance policy.

These are just a few examples of the real purpose behind mandatory insurance so don’t be fooled that it will simply be an “affordable” and “reasonable” component to “responsible” gun ownership.

"Contact Rep. Linsky"

"Contact Gov. Patrick:

1 posted on 01/25/2013 1:31:03 PM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice
Link to Article
2 posted on 01/25/2013 1:32:32 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: pabianice

God Bless Texas. Come on down!


3 posted on 01/25/2013 1:35:10 PM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation.)
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To: humblegunner

And Guns N’ Roses will be considered assault music.


4 posted on 01/25/2013 1:40:35 PM PST by Salamander (Do not remove this tagline under penalty of law.)
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To: pabianice

you get what you vote for Massachusetts. Enjoy it. Personally, I’d take the loss and move if I lived in that shiite hole of a commie state.


5 posted on 01/25/2013 1:49:12 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: Salamander

Just the current band.
All pre-1991 music will be grandfathered.


6 posted on 01/25/2013 1:49:33 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

Oh, thank God.


7 posted on 01/25/2013 1:51:32 PM PST by Salamander (Do not remove this tagline under penalty of law.)
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To: Salamander

Dear Gov. Patrick, please get very sick and die.


8 posted on 01/25/2013 1:52:52 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Salamander

Dear Gov. Patrick, please get very sick and die.


9 posted on 01/25/2013 1:53:30 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: pabianice

Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em.


10 posted on 01/25/2013 1:53:46 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: massgopguy

“Dear Gov. Patrick, please get very sick and die.”

Ditto !

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11 posted on 01/25/2013 1:55:18 PM PST by Mears
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To: pabianice

This is now getting exposure here and I have been trying to get newspapers and tv to cover it. Talk radio is already on it. I think it has little chance to pass but we are vigilant.


12 posted on 01/25/2013 1:58:30 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: RC one

Yeah, why would anyone want to live on the east or west coast???? Give me fly over country where I can go out in my back yard and shoot my guns and not have to worry. Or better yet, your neighbor comes down on his 4 wheeler, looks at what you’re shooting and say’s “come on down and let me show you how to reload that brass”....midwest living is priceless :)


13 posted on 01/25/2013 1:58:51 PM PST by southernindymom
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To: massgopguy; SJSAMPLE

Just remember that post-’91 GNR is now contraband.

[I’m sorry...that was SO bad]


14 posted on 01/25/2013 1:59:13 PM PST by Salamander (Do not remove this tagline under penalty of law.)
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To: pabianice

For those in MA having trouble getting ammo: you can order ammo mail order and have it delivered to a friend out of state. Under the Gun owners Protection Act it is perfectly legal for you to go pick it up and bring it back to MA. Make sure it’s secured in your trunk. make sure you have your FID on you.


15 posted on 01/25/2013 2:01:44 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: pabianice

Ironic for a state that celebrates the battles of Lexington and Concord on the third Monday in April - Patriot’s Day.


16 posted on 01/25/2013 2:03:22 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45
Oops! That's "Patriots' Day".
17 posted on 01/25/2013 2:11:01 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: pabianice

tough to say you represent a people and have no idea about their roots

18 posted on 01/25/2013 2:14:08 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: southernindymom

It’s just like you say in rural parts of eastern Washington and Oregon, although people think of us as ‘left coast’.


19 posted on 01/25/2013 2:14:37 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: pabianice

So, what the Brits tried to do in 1775 today’s Mass government hopes to succeed?

Remember when Gen Gage called for the people of BOSTON to turn in their arms....THEY DID!

http://www.bostonteapartyship.com/faneuil-hall

Following the first shots of the American Revolution at Lexington and Concord on April 19, 1775, on April 27, the military governor of the Province of Massachusetts Bay and commander-in-chief of all British forces in North America, General Thomas Gage, ordered all firearms owned by the Boston citizenry stored in Faneuil Hall.

On April 27, “1778 fire arms, 634 pistols, 973 bayonets and 38 blunderbusses” were received, properly labeled with the names of the owners, and sorted for storage at Faneuil Hall. Gage promised the weapons would be returned to their owners “at a suitable time”.

Gage feared an attack on Boston was imminent and feared the civilian populace would join in the resistance, confronting him with an inner and outer enemy.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 2:14:37 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: pabianice

Anyone out there detected any “lines in the sand” yet?

No? Didn’t think so. Sorry to interrupt the posting.


21 posted on 01/25/2013 2:15:32 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: pabianice

As they continue to destroy this country, they are begging for a Civil War.

I am a peaceful guy and I believe that most conservatives are, but there is a breaking point and it could be around the next bend.


22 posted on 01/25/2013 2:16:45 PM PST by Gator113 (Leave my guns alone and REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS!!)
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To: pabianice

No insurance company is going to offer insurance. That means that this is equivalent to confiscation.

Notice how they are quick to create new crimes. Notice how eager they are to put innocent people in jail for what is not now a “crime.”

Notice how they don’t give one flying $h!i+ about taking guns from violent criminals.


23 posted on 01/25/2013 2:17:45 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: sten
I was going to say that they're trying to turn the Minute Man into the Hour Man.

-PJ

24 posted on 01/25/2013 2:18:47 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: pabianice

Deval Patrick=a feral black in a suit.


25 posted on 01/25/2013 2:25:56 PM PST by Gator113 (Leave my guns alone and REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS!!)
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To: southernindymom

I guess some people like high taxes and oppressive leftist governments. I have been up and down both coasts and to all points in between. Massachusetts would be the last coastal state I would want to end up in. Similarly, California is beautiful but it just isn’t worth it. I would take southwestern deserts over Massachusetts beaches every time.


26 posted on 01/25/2013 2:27:17 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: Salamander

I would side with Guns N’ Roses.


27 posted on 01/25/2013 2:29:06 PM PST by Gator113 (Leave my guns alone and REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS!!)
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To: pabianice

I’m sure the criminals that actually commit genuine gun crimes will comply.

You know, they’ve complied all along with the mountains of gun laws already passed.

this is just disarmament under the guise of ‘safety’ or ‘regulation’.


28 posted on 01/25/2013 2:31:04 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: I want the USA back

“No insurance company is going to offer insurance. That means that this is equivalent to confiscation.”

I agree. But what Linsky and Patrick know is that this amounts to a poll tax. In order for you to exercise your rights they would require you to pay a tax in the form of an insurance policy that would be unfair if no one could pay it. If I required an insurance policy for every person who would say or write something in a public forum, I would also be violating the constitution under the first amendment.

Whether or not a person chooses to exercise a right or not is up to that person. But a government that charges a fee or has some litmus test for a person to exercise their right, whether or not they choose to do so, is violating the law.

Patrick and Linsky know this and what they are doing is simply shameless political theatrics that are going to cost a lot of people a lot of money.

This should get interesting.


29 posted on 01/25/2013 2:41:10 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: TexasRedeye
Hope you meant that. We're heading that direction when we can get everything here sold.

So many healthcare jobs in the metroplex area, and housing looks wonderfully affordable to us.

30 posted on 01/25/2013 2:46:19 PM PST by MarMema
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To: I want the USA back
How soon we forget the speed with which Stalin's Soviet Union "imprisoned half the European continent," said Jennifer Siegel in The Wall Street Journal.

A book I just ordered, but the quote keeps coming to mind lately.

31 posted on 01/25/2013 2:49:01 PM PST by MarMema
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To: pabianice

And to think that the militia in Lexington, Mass once fought the government for trying to seize their guns.


32 posted on 01/25/2013 2:49:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: reg45
Ironic for a state that celebrates the battles of Lexington and Concord on the third Monday in April - Patriot’s Day.

They should move the celebration to the first of the month, since they no longer take freedom seriously.

33 posted on 01/25/2013 2:56:30 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: Gator113

L.A. Guns?

Velvet Revolver?

;]


34 posted on 01/25/2013 3:02:33 PM PST by Salamander (Do not remove this tagline under penalty of law.)
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To: MarMema
So many healthcare jobs in the metroplex area, and housing looks wonderfully affordable to us.

I DO mean that! And come on into the Metroplex (or Metromess as we call it). The only people who don't have a job are those who don't want one.

35 posted on 01/25/2013 3:19:11 PM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation.)
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To: sten

36 posted on 01/25/2013 3:28:16 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RC one

Personally, I’d take the loss and move...

Been there, Done that...

For me, it was the Gay Marriage thang.

Plus, the LifeTime FID Card, which suddenly became a “Renewable” FID Card.

You can’t even “TOUCH” a pistol at a gun store without a CCW, which is arbitrarily issued by the Chief of Police of your town...


37 posted on 01/25/2013 3:30:14 PM PST by Paisan
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To: Pollster1
On Patriots' Day, the NRA should present all the Massachusetts legislators and state executives with red coats.


38 posted on 01/25/2013 3:34:20 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: pabianice

Bump for later


39 posted on 01/25/2013 3:38:25 PM PST by painter (Obamahood,"Steal from the working people and give to the worthless.")
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To: reg45
Ironic for a state that celebrates the battles of Lexington and Concord on the third Monday in April - Patriot’s Day.

Oh it is worse, they have an old Flint Lock hanging on the wall way up high @ the State House. The Ship Dits putt a bleeping trigger lock on it. You have no idea of the Socialist Minds in Mass...

40 posted on 01/25/2013 3:41:34 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: pabianice

The birthplace of liberty indeed.


41 posted on 01/25/2013 3:47:51 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: pabianice

And if the libs really want to rub it in, they can have Deval Patrick sign the law at the Old North Bridge in Concord.


42 posted on 01/25/2013 4:02:57 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Travis McGee

Your posters are consistently thought provoking.


43 posted on 01/25/2013 4:11:41 PM PST by Gator113 (Leave my guns alone and REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS!!)
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To: steve86

I do want to visit Washington and Oregon, but have no desire to CA my hard earned money. Hopefully you aren’t too left coast.


44 posted on 01/25/2013 4:23:11 PM PST by southernindymom
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To: sten

I think that there is some reasonable chance that this gun will be confiscated.


45 posted on 01/25/2013 4:40:13 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: TexasRedeye

I’d just as soon those yankees stay up there and deal with what they voted for.


46 posted on 01/25/2013 5:07:32 PM PST by SailormanCGA72
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To: Paisan

Good for you. I hope you got out in the black at least.


47 posted on 01/25/2013 5:41:25 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: SailormanCGA72
I’d just as soon those yankees stay up there and deal with what they voted for.

I've got a very strong hunch that those who are pro 2nd Amendment and posters on FR did not vote for the current law makers in Mass. We need this type to keep Texas from going blue. What with Dallas, Austin, & El Paso as our blue cancers in Texas, we need to encourage some to "Come on Down"!

48 posted on 01/25/2013 11:39:26 PM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation.)
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To: TexasRedeye

Gotta love Texas!


49 posted on 01/26/2013 6:17:44 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Salamander

Of course, this is only a feelgooders cosmetic bandaid rather than a real solution.


50 posted on 01/26/2013 9:42:20 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi... the TRAVESTY continues)
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