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1 posted on 01/27/2013 7:11:49 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
This is just what Obama wants; another long and drawn out argument that can have no end and no conclusion. This is just like global warming, health care, free birth control pills and the debt ceiling. There is something going on behind the scene that no one is catching on to yet.

YOU CAN COUNT ON IT!

2 posted on 01/27/2013 7:16:00 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: neverdem

Reasoning and discussion is useless. the intent is the complete destruction of the military powers of The united states of america and create parity in the world.

The left has won. The only thing left is to watch the death of the country. It will not take the full of the term of the beast.


3 posted on 01/27/2013 7:16:00 PM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: neverdem

Reality is thrown out the window when socialist idealogues are in power.


4 posted on 01/27/2013 7:24:06 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem

This is an excellent article. Military cohesion is also a reason why openly homosexual men don’t belong in front line jobs. The sad truth is there is a double standard for women in the military, they do get sick and are unavailable for duty more often, men do pick up the slack, and our leaders don’t really care. This is about politics, not military effectiveness.


5 posted on 01/27/2013 7:27:27 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: neverdem

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6 posted on 01/27/2013 7:29:56 PM PST by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: neverdem

I remember a discussion on one of the morning news programs. It was about this exact subject. There was military woman who thought women could be in combat and that idiot Baba Wawa.

After one of the guys said that the training was different for men and women, Barbara just flat out stated that he was wrong and the training was identical.

About 30 seconds later the guy asked the woman officer if the training was the same and she admitted it was not. I remember thinking that at least she didn’t lie like Walters.


8 posted on 01/27/2013 7:43:29 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: neverdem

We should endorse professional women as defensive linebackers...


9 posted on 01/27/2013 8:03:46 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: neverdem

I can not think of one thing that a woman adds to the capability of a front line platoon to complete their mission. She is smaller, weaker, slower and the simple fact is that men behave differently when a woman is present.

Women have a civilizing effect on men that is contrary to breaking and killing things. Plus, the natural sexual tension between the sexes can bring chaos to a platoon.

Guys that go camping with guys only, know what I am talking about.

Men should protect their women. (Except, Rosie O’Donnel of course)


10 posted on 01/27/2013 8:44:57 PM PST by super7man
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11 posted on 01/27/2013 8:56:13 PM PST by narses
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12 posted on 01/27/2013 8:56:42 PM PST by narses
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13 posted on 01/27/2013 8:57:48 PM PST by narses
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To: neverdem

Actually the article is wrong about one thing, they can urinate standing up.

Just a tangent, but you can’t ping them for this.


14 posted on 01/27/2013 9:00:12 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: neverdem

I even see many of the points expressed in this article in the schools where I have worked, which is not exactly an environment marked by physical stress, combat, or life-threatening circumstances.

Female teachers get sick more often. They take off more time than male counterparts. They take the normal stresses of the classroom differently than most men, too, with many of my female colleagues responding more emotionally, in both good and bad ways. Men are more measured. Many female teachers are simply not as driven as the male teachers, which is why there are more men working on administrative certificates. Despite decades of trying, men treat women differently, usually with a respectful deference, and women tend to create private girl’s clubs that separate themselves from the men on the staff. Hot, young, attractive female teachers attract the attention of every (heterosexual) male, a truth that everyone acknowledges.

Of course, we’re not supposed to express any of these realities, but I’ll bet that any good social scientist could measure it using reliable research methods.

On the other hand, a lot of us in this mixed-sex environment are old - I just celebrated my 57th birthday. We can navigate the currents of sex professionally. That wouldn’t be the situation in the armed forces.

I was thinking about being a 19-year-old soldier with a hot, attractive, young female soldier next to me out in the wilderness somewhere. Hell, she wouldn’t even have to be very attractive. What I know is that at the age of 19 my libido had only one speed, and that was overdrive. Now add to that the stress of combat. Young men take young women on roller coasters to “scare” their date, which promotes all sorts of bonding behaviors. Combat creates that scariness for real, and I’d have no doubt that sexual yearning is a predictable outcome. I don’t know why sex is prompted by this kind of scare, but it is.

And afterwards? Jealousy, recrimination, resentment, shame, guilt. Not a good way to run an army. A good way to ruin one, though.

God help us.


15 posted on 01/27/2013 9:00:38 PM PST by redpoll
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To: neverdem
A woman cannot urinate standing up

This is about the only thing in this article I could disagree with!

Of course they can...it's messy and they have very little directional ability,but nonetheless they CAN pee standing up! C'mon!

16 posted on 01/27/2013 9:03:55 PM PST by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
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To: neverdem

From Saturday afternoon pirate movies:

A woman on a ship is bad luck.

Philosophy that still works.


17 posted on 01/27/2013 9:10:56 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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Combat operations entail applying and enduring unimaginable brutality until victory. Therefore, only the most severe restrictions on human emotions and behavior can foster the required high morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion. Human sexuality simply cannot intrude into this extraordinary dimension where those displaying the greatest savagely win.

Combat forms personnel into small, rigid, task oriented units. These people continuously face extraordinary stress punctuated by killing other humans. At the point of collision, men face environments characterized by unbelievably sacrificial, primitive and intimate relations.

Such environments are inherently chaotic and brittle. They can be overcome only by a totalitarian leadership and narrow focus unimaginable for those who see any opportunity for social engineering.

The regimental combat teams for infantry, mechanized and armored units are now the playthings of bureaucrats committed to equal opportunity, and dismissive of warriors enduring the brutal carnage imperative for victory. The institutional memories of fighting ferocious, capable enemies such as the Germans, Japanese, Chinese, and North Vietnamese have disappeared.

George Orwell said it best, “Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”

P.S.
Notice General Dempsey, who never fought the enemies mentioned, questions the necessity of current high standards which already allow inferior female performance.

I tell those who ask they should never join any branch of the military. And began doing so when they repealed DADT. I reasonably expect affirmative action to be applied overtly or covertly to homosexuals in consideration for promotion. Therefore one should expect the lesbians and sodomites to make the decisions about sending little girls and a few good men into harms way. I imagine these will be interesting conversations at times, because I ended up as a VFW Post Commander.

Well what are they going to do? Fire me from a job I never really wanted. Now they can't put me on an LST and ship me off to the Mekong Delta.

General Martin E. Dempsey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Dempsey

Gen. Dempsey: If Women Can’t Meet Military Standard, Pentagon Will Ask ‘Does It Really Have to Be That High?’
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gen-dempsey-if-women-can-t-meet-military-standard-pentagon-will-ask-does-it-really-have

19 posted on 01/27/2013 10:00:24 PM PST by Retain Mike
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20 posted on 01/27/2013 10:01:36 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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What do you think?


22 posted on 01/28/2013 1:05:42 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: neverdem

Successful cultures/civilizations reflect and build upon nature and the natural order of things. One of the resiliencies of Christian thought is the acceptance of God’s creation. Liberals reject that.

To them civilization is a moldable social construct and to a degree they’re right. At some point your policies will put your civilization perpendicular to nature. That’s lights out.


23 posted on 01/28/2013 3:59:39 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: neverdem

It also must be noted women treat men differently than other women as well. Feminists apparently have no problem with that. Why wouldn’t she not send her female friend on a deadly mission? Why wouldn’t she save her friend over a guy in her unit? They’re sisters....

It cuts both ways. None of this is any good. People see “Aliens” and a Vasquez-type character and think it’s really how it is.

I would applaud the female captain who served in Afghanistan for being honest and admitting and actually writing about it, that the stress is really going to be crippling and career-ending for most women. Just confirming and acknowledging what the common sense intelligence has said all along about this. Not that there aren’t women who can’t serve, or whatever, just that it’s really not a good situation to put women into, and that in the military, you aren’t just thinking about the individual, others depend on you, and if you can’t do the job it puts others lives at risk when you’re talking infantry or special forces.

Feminists aren’t really bothered by it because as most of the military fighting force is men, they don’t care if the men die at the expense of women in combat. They will claim the men were already risking their lives being in the military. The difference is that all those men, on average, outperform the average woman just by being men and being built differently. They all more or less can do the same things, haul the same things, get there ir roughly the same times, and are expected to.

Expecting the average female soldier to be equal or better than the average male soldier is akin to expecting the average dad to be equal or better than the average mom. They aren’t built for the mom role. They’re built to be the dad.


28 posted on 01/28/2013 8:43:49 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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