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1 posted on 01/28/2013 1:40:47 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I haven’t seen Atlas Shrugged II yet, don’t tell me how it ends.


2 posted on 01/28/2013 1:47:02 AM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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Just wow.


3 posted on 01/28/2013 1:48:59 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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Yeah—I got it-—but I wish I hadn’t......I was much happier not knowing that.


4 posted on 01/28/2013 1:50:18 AM PST by basil (basil)
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Good luck getting anybody here to care about this!

Every time a debate starts here about ‘entitlements’ I post the link below. Follow it and download the .pdf report and you will become physically ill. It will quickly become apparent that the welfare problem makes Defense, Medicare, and Social Security look like parking tickets!

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2009/09/obama-to-spend-103-trillion-on-welfare-uncovering-the-full-cost-of-means-tested-welfare-or-aid-to-the-poor


18 posted on 01/28/2013 2:16:14 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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I’ve been on welfare twice in my life. Once, during the 1990-1994 recession, when I was on it for five months, and more recently, during this current economic Charlie Foxtrot, I was forced to go back on it for several months. I assure you that I don’t find being on the dole even REMOTELY pleasant, in fact it made me feel like some sort of criminal.

The only thing that bothers me more about the whole system is that in many ways it’s like a pitcher plant. It’s hard to get out of it, especially when all you can find is minimum wage jobs. There really has to be some sort of more effective methodology than “work or starve” on one extreme and the “nanny state” on the other, but the system really is broken.


20 posted on 01/28/2013 2:37:10 AM PST by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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I thought the 5 year limit was supposed to reduce dependence on welfare; it certainly brought down the urban black birthrate. If being on welfare long-term means living around people on welfare, I just don’t see it as a winning strategy; in fact, it would be depressing.


21 posted on 01/28/2013 2:54:47 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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btt


29 posted on 01/28/2013 3:20:30 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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I wonder how much of that “spending per” money actually makes it to the recipients, and how much goes to run the bureacracy? My guess is most is going to the SEIU purpleshits and their ilk.


35 posted on 01/28/2013 3:55:40 AM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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Every person on welfare should be flown to Haiti or some other 3rd world hell hole to live with a real poor person for two weeks. Only afterward would they be eligible for welfare benefits.

Our poor are only relatively poor. They’re the 1% when compared globally. The Marxist argument that wealth creates poverty is utter nonsense.

Thanks to government schooling a majority were weaned on it and now believe it as if it were a sunrise.


38 posted on 01/28/2013 4:16:58 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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BTTT


41 posted on 01/28/2013 5:40:11 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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The country is already socialist. It just doesn’t have the name yet.


42 posted on 01/28/2013 5:47:47 AM PST by I want the USA back
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Each time I go shopping, I try to observe how folks pay. I can usually guess if they buy name brands and grab a soda and/or candy bar... usually EBT shoppers using TAX money. Go to Lowes or Home Depot, and those workers who shop sometimes grab something but you can tell they are in work clothes and need the energy fix, but can they really afford it based on this article - here in Fayetteville NC the average wage is service industry being near to a military base, and construction workers are lucky to top $15 an hour. My guess is that in this area that welfare buck can afford a lot of Tide and soda pop at the checkout, but in NYC it might only cover the rent and drugs/alcohol....


47 posted on 01/28/2013 6:33:04 AM PST by Jumper
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A good overview of welfare spending for the poor:

Testimony before Committee on the Budget US House by Robert Rector Senior Research Fellow, Family & Welfare Studies The Heritage Foundation

Examining the Means-tested Welfare State: 79 Programs and $927 Billion in Annual Spending


48 posted on 01/28/2013 6:38:32 AM PST by Girlene
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This is depressing in itself, but here’s the hidden tragedy that someone would have to earn 1.5 to 2x (taxpayer) to pay for those net entitlements.


60 posted on 01/28/2013 7:33:37 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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So tell me again why we don’t withold payroll taxes from welfare benefits? Is it because Social Security and Medicare have too much money?


65 posted on 01/28/2013 8:29:20 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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