Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The run on guns and ammunition
KHOU 11 News ^ | January 29, 2013 | Jeremy Desel

Posted on 01/30/2013 5:46:49 AM PST by thackney

... "This is usually full of .22 up here. .45 and .40...

"We used to sell 30,000 rounds a month of ammo and we’ve done that in a week, and sometimes even a day in ammo," James said.

What little they do have is generally high end and there is a limit on all purchases: a three-box max or 150 rounds at a time. That’s for all types and all sizes.

It’s not just one store.

Ron Casady has been shopping for weeks.

"I noticed online and everything is out of stock. Click add to cart. Sorry we are out of stock." Casady said.

When it comes to ammunition, there is pressure on everybody from the manufacturers to the distributors to those that resell that ammunition and it is not getting better anytime soon.

Several manufacturers have back orders of 14 months, some as long as two years.

James said, "Most of the manufacturers I have talked to have gone to round-the-clock production."

It is not just gun stores and recreational shooters scrambling, area police departments are starting to feel the impact.

Several departments KHOU 11 News talked to are putting limits on ammo that can be used for training on non-duty weapons.

So far, there are no outright shortages in our area, but plenty of departments are worried about their orders for next year, both in the ability to get the ammunition and what it will likely cost.

It takes plenty of ammo to train police officers.

One law enforcement rifle instructor said it takes between 800 and 1200 rounds to get certified on a police rifle, and that's for one officer on one gun.

It’s the political climate most believe is fueling the run on guns and ammo, and it seems that is not calming either.

(Excerpt) Read more at khou.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; bloat; guncontrol; houston; rkba; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-72 next last
This was run on TV for our 10 pm news.
1 posted on 01/30/2013 5:46:58 AM PST by thackney
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: thackney

Between the DHS contract and 0bama’s gun control agenda,
gun and ammo manufacturers are doing land office business.

Hey, lefties, let me ask you a question-

do you think people are buying all this hardware and ammo to sheepishly hand it over when your representatives and agents of the government tell us to turn it in?


2 posted on 01/30/2013 5:50:20 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

So are Bloomberg and Christie going to come out with anti-price gouging edicts on ammo?


3 posted on 01/30/2013 5:51:36 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

This has been going on in central and the Hill country of Texas for several months now.

The limits on how much you can purchase has only been happening for a couple of weeks. Before that it was get to the store before they open and wait in line.

My son-in-law purchased a 9mm last week and the store didn’t even have one box of ammo to sell him.


4 posted on 01/30/2013 5:54:42 AM PST by WCH
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Credit where credit is due - whatever else he may or may not achieve, Obama’s place in history is secure as the Greatest Firearms Salesman in the history of Planet Earth.


5 posted on 01/30/2013 5:55:22 AM PST by Jack Hammer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney
It’s the political climate most believe is fueling the run on guns and ammo,...

Most? I'm darned curious what the other folks think is fueling the apocolyptic ammunition sales. Did all of the urban youths just take up skeet shooting?

6 posted on 01/30/2013 5:57:13 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Shouda stocked up on ammo whenever you bought a new caliber so you don’t have to worry about shortages today.


7 posted on 01/30/2013 5:58:10 AM PST by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrB

Yes!

I will be a good citizen.

I will turn in my ammo when they come to take it.

I will remove the bullet and the powder and primer will be destroyed at the same time.

I will be a good citizen.


8 posted on 01/30/2013 6:02:12 AM PST by IMR 4350
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: thackney

9 posted on 01/30/2013 6:03:46 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Why does it take “between 800 and 1200 rounds to get certified on a police rifle”?

How many should it take?


10 posted on 01/30/2013 6:04:54 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

I was at Carter’s Treaschwig store yesterday to pick up a varmint call and noticed they are out of most reloading components. Ditto Bass Pro and Gander.


11 posted on 01/30/2013 6:05:20 AM PST by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

The new normal. “If” this gun control stuff fades again without changes people will remember and buy and stock up on ammo. The gun range will be quieter, people will carefully train, and it will be years and years before we would see shelves full again if ever. As for gun and ammo companies, they will be hiring like crazy, along with importers.


12 posted on 01/30/2013 6:08:54 AM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org -- http://defcad.org/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IMR 4350

I rekkin’ you have a device that effectively removes the bullet and powder and destroys the primer...


13 posted on 01/30/2013 6:09:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: thackney

I am thinking of finally getting a .17MHR gun, since that’s the only ammo in stock anywhere.


14 posted on 01/30/2013 6:13:19 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jack Hydrazine
Why does it take “between 800 and 1200 rounds to get certified on a police rifle”? How many should it take?

As many as it takes to kill the dog.

15 posted on 01/30/2013 6:14:21 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Trailerpark Badass

HMR


16 posted on 01/30/2013 6:15:22 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: thackney; All
Cheaperthandirt.com still has a little ammo in stock. I've got a couple of boxes of 9mm coming by UPS today.
17 posted on 01/30/2013 6:18:27 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Okay, what are the best stock plays for this time in our nation’s history. What company’s have the best exposure to the ammo market might be moving and continue to move?


18 posted on 01/30/2013 6:19:40 AM PST by 103198
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RoosterRedux

I would tell everyone about my ‘secret’ suppliers but, we already have plenty of buyers across the spectrum.


19 posted on 01/30/2013 6:23:08 AM PST by WCH
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: thackney

Most police departments used to reload training rounds. For some reason they gave it up and buy it fresh from the factory. They should be able to start doing that again without any problem.

What is wrong with these people? Do they know nothing about their tools?


20 posted on 01/30/2013 6:23:35 AM PST by buffaloguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MrB

Yes several to be exact.

Some are revolving bullet extractors.

Some are bolt action bullet extractors.

Some are semi auto bullet extractors.

Each has the ability to remove the bullet and deliver it to the person requesting the bullet and it destroys the powder and primer at the same time, thus rendering the individual ammo round useless until the time it is made ready to deliver another bullet to the person requesting it.


21 posted on 01/30/2013 6:23:56 AM PST by IMR 4350
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: King_Corey

” “If” this gun control stuff fades again without changes people will remember and buy and stock up on ammo.”

Obama has made it fashionable to own a gun. The ladies can even color coordinate them with their outfits, which is a huge difference from 10 years ago.


22 posted on 01/30/2013 6:25:47 AM PST by buffaloguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: RoosterRedux

If they do, it’s probably because they lost a HUGE portion of their customer base when they caved to the ‘assault weapon’ banshees. They’ll never get another dime from me.


23 posted on 01/30/2013 6:26:08 AM PST by whatexit
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: IMR 4350

:=)

better be careful with that talk - you could cause another “opus” like melas yesterday.


24 posted on 01/30/2013 6:26:42 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: whatexit; RoosterRedux

Just checked “bulkammo” - they have ammo available.
No .22 LR though.


25 posted on 01/30/2013 6:27:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Zippo44

They are out of the brass at the Pro Bass by us also. No .22 mag ammo whatsoever. Finally snatched up 2 boxes at the third gun shop we went to.


26 posted on 01/30/2013 6:33:26 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: MrB

If the time ever comes when they start trying to round up an confiscate guns and ammo they will be rounding up the people too.

When the left tells you they will exterminate 25 million people that can’t be reeducated, you better believe them.


27 posted on 01/30/2013 6:38:43 AM PST by IMR 4350
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: MrB
By golly, they do!

Have you ever ordered from them? Are they dependable?

28 posted on 01/30/2013 6:43:17 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: thackney

From what I’ve heard from different sources, many of the big chain ammo carriers, Wal-Mart, Academy Sports, Gander Mtn., etc. are not placing any new orders for ammo (some or all calibers, I don’t know) until all this talk of new regulations shakes out. They will continue to ship and sell the current stock in their warehouses, but for now they are not replenishing the stock in their distribution warehouses. Once it’s gone it’s gone until they start reordering again (IF they start reordering again). Sounds to me like Obama’s thug regime may be putting the squeeze on these ammo sellers behind the curtain.

Couple this from what I heard recently second hand from another that was talking to a friend that works in an ammo factory, that friend said their warehouses were full and nothing was being shipped out because no orders were being received from the big buyers mentioned above.

I’ll be the first to say, this could all be false (and I hope it is), or it could all be ominously true, time will soon tell.

If other FReepers know people that work in ammo factories, it would be very helpful if they could get some confirmation on this.


29 posted on 01/30/2013 6:45:39 AM PST by OB1kNOb (On November 6, 2012 liberty was given the death penalty in America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: thackney

I wonder how much, if any, of the ammo shortage is due to the 1.4 billion round purchase by Homeland Security.

Went to a big gun show two weeks ago.
There are usually 2 or 3 bulk ammo sellers there but this time there wasn’t even one.

Ammo was in short supply - just a box or two here and there and prices were outrageous.

I went to the same show 4 years ago when Obama first got elected and created the first big scare.
There was a big rush to buy guns and ammo back then too but ammo was still available and people were buying in bulk.
Today the big stocks of bulk ammo are depleted.
Ammo sellers were saying they might get some new stock in sometime in the summer.


30 posted on 01/30/2013 6:48:12 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RoosterRedux

From my understanding, once you’re “verified” (age, payment, etc) and in their system, they ship “scary fast”, like, arrival in 2 days or less.

I have ordered from them, and Jack Spirko at the Survival Podcast has them as a verified sponsor.

(If you join up at the TSP, you can get a code for a free ammo can with your order.)


31 posted on 01/30/2013 6:51:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: WCH

I’m feeling pretty smart lately, stocked up on all my centerfire stuff last year before the election. She Who Must Be Obeyed was giving me the pouty/frowny look every time I hit BulkAmmo but I look like a genius now.

I’m down to my last 300 .22LR and starting to feel a little nervous. Never seen it like this before, if you want CB caps or rat shot you can get it, but not the regular stuff.


32 posted on 01/30/2013 6:54:07 AM PST by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: WCH

“I would tell everyone about my ‘secret’ suppliers but...”

I wouldn’t tell anyone else cross-my-heart-and-hope-to-buy!


33 posted on 01/30/2013 6:57:02 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: MrB
you will find a good portion of this ammo on a table at the next gun show in your town marked up 4X it's original price. they camp at he stores buying it before the stock clerks can even put it on the shelves... now you have the worst gougers of all marking up stuff like .223 to over 1 dollar/round. i hope they choke to death on it... it's forcing 10x as many guys to reload and now you can't even get supplies again.

I can't wait until this commie is out of office so this BS will stop

34 posted on 01/30/2013 6:58:51 AM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RoosterRedux

BulkAmmo.com has been very reliable and speedy for me. About the only place I use any more. Occasionally Brownells but I’m waiting for some 12 ga. from them at the moment and they won’t even speculate on delivery dates.


35 posted on 01/30/2013 6:59:15 AM PST by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: OB1kNOb
From what I’ve heard from different sources, many of the big chain ammo carriers, Wal-Mart, Academy Sports, Gander Mtn., etc. are not placing any new orders for ammo

I don't believe that for the last two at all. People line up before the stores open in our area and buy out the stock quickly as fast as they keep bringing it in. If they had stock in the warehouse, it would already be sold.

Even pure shooting stores like Carter Country have limited some ammo to one box per customer to try and serve as many customers as they can. It sucks to buy a new gun and not be able to buy ammo for it.

Couple this from what I heard recently second hand from another that was talking to a friend that works in an ammo factory, that friend said their warehouses were full and nothing was being shipped out because no orders were being received from the big buyers mentioned above.

Sorry, I call BS. There are multiple reports of manufactures going 24/7 trying to meet demand.

36 posted on 01/30/2013 7:00:06 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: OB1kNOb
Couple this from what I heard recently second hand from another that was talking to a friend that works in an ammo factory, that friend said their warehouses were full and nothing was being shipped out because no orders were being received from the big buyers mentioned above.

I doubt that.

If the bigger buyers quit ordering, that would just cut competition for the smaller suppliers and they would have plenty in stock, which appears not to actually be the case.

37 posted on 01/30/2013 7:04:08 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: buffaloguy

It has been less expensive to purchase new 40 cal, for example, ammo until recently. Even when using one’s own brass the lead, primers and powder cost per round was slightly more for reloads. Of course we saved our brass and made wise purchases of components well before this frenzy. Which is far worse than when the ZerObama was first elected. I pity those who didn’t heed the warnings from both the shooting community and the left’s telegraphing of their plans for us. But I think the message should be loud and clear for the tyrants that the 2nd Amendment was designed specifically to protect us from the likes of Schumers, Obamas and Feinsteins and their Marxist ideologues. Make every practice shot count and the real need will come natural.


38 posted on 01/30/2013 7:04:28 AM PST by o_zarkman44 ("When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: buffaloguy
Obama has made it fashionable to own a gun.

Not only has he fouled up the price and availability of guns and ammo, now he's going to cause a run on skeet ranges.

39 posted on 01/30/2013 7:05:49 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: West Texas Chuck

lol ... 50 rounds of American Eagle 115gr FMJ 9mm ... > $20 ... they are raping their customers.


40 posted on 01/30/2013 7:13:19 AM PST by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: thackney
There are multiple reports of manufactures going 24/7 trying to meet demand.

Coming from employees that work in said ammo factories?

41 posted on 01/30/2013 7:20:57 AM PST by OB1kNOb (On November 6, 2012 liberty was given the death penalty in America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: thackney
Think about how this will affect small business firearms shops and dealers if it keeps up. I know business is booming, but when the shelves are now clear and there isn't any inventory to be sold, it affects your bottom line. If people are waiting months and months for products you still have to pay the bills for your employees and keep the lights on etc. in the meantime. On top of everything else, Obama’s jacking around a bunch of Mom and Pops who are just trying to put bread on the table and feed their families.
42 posted on 01/30/2013 7:22:11 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OB1kNOb

The record sales and run up in stock prices are not being reached by holding inventory back.


43 posted on 01/30/2013 7:23:28 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Zippo44
I was at Carter’s Treaschwig store yesterday to pick up a varmint call and noticed they are out of most reloading components. Ditto Bass Pro and Gander.

Our Bass Pro is completely out of 12 ga. primers. They have been for several weeks. I finally ordered a couple of thousand from Cabelas and am waiting for the UPS guy right now. I still need to get some more powder.

44 posted on 01/30/2013 7:24:10 AM PST by Starstruck (If I were a communist, socialist or fascist, l I would be for gun control.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: thackney

I looked at the website where I normally buy ammo and the stock of 9mm is completely wiped out.


45 posted on 01/30/2013 7:29:13 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SampleMan
Did all of the urban youths just take up skeet shooting?

Once our Dear Leader's fans heard it's Obama's favorite hobby, I'm sure that's what happened. And that's why they bought up all the .22LR, .45ACP, and .223 ammo in the country.

46 posted on 01/30/2013 7:30:17 AM PST by Pollster1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: buffaloguy

Policies got in the way.

The legal beagles got spun up over officers training with one kind of ammo, and qualifying/carrying another

The bean counters got spun up over maintenance and consumables contracts for “Star” automated reloading machines (expensive)

The LE management got spun up over the time involved in sending officers to the range (in addition to court, other training, and that pesky time off/overtime)

Makes no sense....


47 posted on 01/30/2013 7:37:10 AM PST by petro45acp (No good endeavour survives an excess of adult supervision)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: thackney
One law enforcement rifle instructor said it takes between 800 and 1200 rounds to get certified on a police rifle, and that's for one officer on one gun.

Good gosh, just put a picture of a dog on the target. Being in the military, we used nine to 12 rounds for zero and then 42 - 56 on the range, depending which qualifying cycle we were shooting.

48 posted on 01/30/2013 7:37:17 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (+++++++++)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zippo44
...noticed they are out of most reloading components. ...

I will email our daughter and see how her friend in Wisconsin and her family are doing with their reloading business. They had to expand twice after 0 bummer got elected in 2008. They used to get an order and ship the same day and now they had a 3 - 4 week wait to ship.

49 posted on 01/30/2013 7:47:02 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (+++++++++)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Trailerpark Badass

“I am thinking of finally getting a .17MHR gun, since that’s the only ammo in stock anywhere”

You are not kidding. I see it at every store I go to but it seems to be the only thing I see. Every once in a while I will see 22Magnum and 300WSM. Maybe a couple of boxes of 12ga target loads. But thats it.


50 posted on 01/30/2013 7:50:07 AM PST by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-72 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson