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Hostage drama drags on after Alabama school bus shooting
The Chicago Tribune ^ | 31 January 2013 | Phil Sears

Posted on 01/31/2013 6:48:02 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

MIDLAND CITY, Alabama (Reuters) - A gunman suspected of fatally shooting an Alabama school bus driver before holing up in an underground bunker with a young child is a Vietnam veteran with anti-government views, authorities and an organization that tracks hate groups said on Wednesday. Law enforcement officials from multiple agencies were bivouacked near the bunker in Midland City but offered few details about a standoff with the shooter that stretched into its second day on Wednesday.Authorities said driver Charles Albert Poland Jr., 66, was killed after the gunman boarded a bus ferrying more than 20 children home from school on Tuesday.

The suspect demanded the driver let a student off the bus, Alabama media reported. When Poland refused, the man boarded the bus and shot the driver before taking a 6-year-old kindergarten student and fleeing the scene.

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KEYWORDS: alabama; hostage; schoolbus; schoolshooting; shooting
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Yesterday one of the local TV stations reported that a helicopter lit and several soldiers dressed for battle came out. I thought they should not have said that as it could have upset the hostage taker. He supposedly has a TV in the bunker.


21 posted on 01/31/2013 7:34:03 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Just pump in some sleeping gas. Is it really necessary to call out ATF and DHS?


22 posted on 01/31/2013 7:39:41 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: driftdiver

No, I’d be a mess. I’d probably already be in jail or medicated in protective custody from trying to get to him.


23 posted on 01/31/2013 7:42:30 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: yarddog
...one of the local TV stations reported that a helicopter lit and several soldiers dressed for battle came out.

"Soldiers", as in military/army "soldiers", for which it is illegal to use in action on home soil?

25 posted on 01/31/2013 7:53:50 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
This whole incident is being hushed up for some reason. Very few informative stories in the media anywhere. Interesting. Wonder why?

Maybe because the media in Sandyhook were complete news whores, fouled up their reporting in virtually every detail, and turned the massacre into circus maximus.

26 posted on 01/31/2013 7:58:00 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Yehuda

I know what you mean. ABC radio news drives me up a wall. Their reporting is so relentlessly biased, and so sneaky and manipulative. The upside is it’s great for learning what the latest liberal spin on a given issue is going to be.


27 posted on 01/31/2013 8:01:30 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: piasa

More than likely the media has been told by the government to suppress this. Every time they excessively report an incident, it gets copied.


28 posted on 01/31/2013 8:06:02 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: varyouga
Well, Palestinian terror groups have been known to scour the fruit markets for unbalanced people to use as martyrs, or for disgraced teenagers who have no hope and have been rejected by their families over some sin in their past, or for drug users, and offer them an "honorable" way out of their situation, promising a hero's funeral and money to their families. Then the PLO gives them more drugs to push them over completely.

But there have always been nutjobs, and there are often more nutjobs is bad economic times than in good times because people are under more stress, so it would be difficult to prove if there has been any "influencing" going on until someone gets an offer and refuses it, as have some Palestinians, by backing out at the last moment and warning Israelis they'd been loaded up with explosives, getting help. That's when the palestinians came up with the cell phone detonator, so the mule can't back out at the last minute.

There was some nut years ago who buried an entire busload of kids. Some real sickos out there...

29 posted on 01/31/2013 8:08:42 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: TheRhinelander
Just pump in some sleeping gas.

He already thought of that. Body weight affects time-of-effect and potential toxicity of any drug. Small boy - much less time and lethal in amounts necessary to sedate adult.

30 posted on 01/31/2013 8:09:13 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: TheRhinelander

Go read about the theater hostage situation in Russia. They pumped in gas which knocked out the terrorists and most of the adults in the building, but it killed some.


31 posted on 01/31/2013 8:11:23 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: jeffc

Yes I know the posse Comitatus act forbids the U.S. military to act on American home soil. There are probably a few exemptions such as aiding local law enforcement in odd situations where they would need the experience of various military forces.

I know Eisenhower broke the law when he sent in troops to Little Rock but since the media was 100% supporting no one called him on it.


32 posted on 01/31/2013 8:18:00 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: varyouga

“This is nuts and I’m really contemplating getting the tinfoil out.”

Tinfoil is not wise. It acts like an antenna for the mind-control device that has been planted in your brain.


33 posted on 01/31/2013 8:19:26 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Good point.

There's that gadget that uses sound to incapacitate people, such as an advancing infantry force, but would it work in a bunker?

34 posted on 01/31/2013 8:24:05 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Yardstick

The MSM has executed their designated job very well. Misinform the masses and divert their attention by the pop-culture obsession and trash programming on TV, while the Libs and King Obama set this Country far down the path of ruination and into a third-world cesspool. Liberalism has always been about lowering the standard for everyone rather than the elevation of those living in poverty.
We will end up just like the great Mexico. Wealthy ruling class, and massive poverty with lawless violence. The MSM elites know they won’t be subject to the same cesspool the rest of us will. Ever seen a Communist/Socialist/Marxist/King living in poverty like his serfs?


35 posted on 01/31/2013 8:27:04 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; All

Anyone seen a picture of the Perp? Most shootings by “Vets”, “Supremacists”, “Survivalists”, are reported non-stop by MSM if it fits their agenda.
They have his name but I can’t find a picture of the murderer.


36 posted on 01/31/2013 8:29:52 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Interesting.


37 posted on 01/31/2013 8:30:29 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander

“Just pump in some sleeping gas.”

Commissioner Gordon: The old sleeping gas trick?

Batman: Precisely!


38 posted on 01/31/2013 8:36:52 PM PST by logitech (Who's here so vile, that will not love his country? If any speak, for him I have offended)
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To: TheRhinelander

Just pump in some sleeping gas. Is it really necessary to call out ATF and DHS?

That may be the best chance to save the boy.


40 posted on 01/31/2013 9:14:03 PM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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