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Fort Meade Army Base Shuts AAFES Burger King Due to Uncleanliness and Maggots
Fort Meade Official Facebook ^ | 2/6/2013 | Nathan Kerr

Posted on 02/06/2013 6:07:45 PM PST by nckerr

BACKGROUND: Several complaints went viral over the past month when employees reported to the Command that AAFES was not cleaning and inspecting its soda machines properly leading to an infestation of maggots. Finally, some employees took pictures and posted. This prompted the Command to do an impromptu inspection and shut the doors. Here is their official statement earlier in the day:

"Regarding the recent post about the AAFES Burger King: I met with AAFES Manager Jonathan Bright this morning. Mr. Bright assured me the area has been cleaned and that Veterinarian Services inspected and cleared the facility. Additionally, Command Sgt. Major Latter and I will be going over to the Burger King this week. AAFES has been, and will continue to be, a great partner, and I have every confidence that they take your safety as seriously as I do. Also, I want to remind everybody about my open door policy every Monday from 4 to 6 p.m.

VR COL Edward C. Rothstein."

Later, apparently, the Commander decided to inspect the AAFES BK and this was the next official statement:

"Following an inspection today by myself, Command Sgt. Maj. Thomas Ladder, Public Health Command and Veterinary Services, I have ordered the closing of the AAFES Burger King, located at 2794 Rose Street.

The decision to close the facility was made so that it can be thoroughly cleaned and re-inspected. The Installation and AAFES are working closely together to ensure that the dining facility is re-opened as quickly as possible.

As always, the health and safety of the Fort Meade community is a top priority.

V/R COL Edward C. Rothstein"

This is unacceptable. Not only is AAFES well known for it s horrible customer service, but this is beyond the pale.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: disgusting
This is unacceptable. Not only is AAFES well known for it s horrible customer service, but this is beyond the pale. I urge everyone to go to their website and let them know Soldiers deserve better than this on the taxpayers bases. http://www.shopmyexchange.com/CustomerService/Feedback.aspx
1 posted on 02/06/2013 6:07:51 PM PST by nckerr
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To: nckerr

It’s gotta be bad if you have to call in a veterinarian to inspect a restaurant......LOL!


2 posted on 02/06/2013 6:11:20 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: nckerr

Why not name this store “Obama King”? Sounds like his regime, “Uncleanliness and Maggots”.

Gee, step up folks and have an “Obama Burger”. No meat, just BullS**t.

Would you like Fries with that? It may be the only thing you can afford to eat in the future under this King, if you can afford the gas to power your car to get there.


3 posted on 02/06/2013 6:12:20 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: nckerr
AAFES BK Maggots
4 posted on 02/06/2013 6:15:23 PM PST by nckerr (www.myspace.com/ArmyKerrFamily)
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To: nckerr
Maggots? Did Obama and his crew drop in?



Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

5 posted on 02/06/2013 6:16:31 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

LOL- In the Army, veterinarians are cross trained as food inspectors as well.


6 posted on 02/06/2013 6:16:36 PM PST by nckerr (www.myspace.com/ArmyKerrFamily)
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To: Hot Tabasco
It’s gotta be bad if you have to call in a veterinarian to inspect a restaurant......LOL!

Actually, food and dining facility inspection is a long held duty and responsibility of Army Veterinarians. MOS 68R.

7 posted on 02/06/2013 6:18:01 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

where is Gordon Ramsey when they need him?

Actually if you can’t do fast food, you are too stupid to be in the business


8 posted on 02/06/2013 6:18:46 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: nckerr

I remember being stationed at a base so remote that we had to drive 3 hours to get to another base with a Burger King. It was like going to civilization, maggots and all.

But yes they should clean this place up. I’m sure the Col and Sgt Mgr will get it done.


9 posted on 02/06/2013 6:19:22 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
It’s gotta be bad if you have to call in a veterinarian to inspect a restaurant......LOL!

Army veterinarians have as one of their primary duties the inspection of food and food facilities. They do this for all of the services.

10 posted on 02/06/2013 6:20:13 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: nckerr

That’s disgusting! I worked in restaurants for three years and ran Fast Food for twenty two and have never seen anything like this. The only way this happens is through sheer neglect, laziness and lack of respect for yourself and your customers! I think the Marines might want to consider a Vietnam era response to these people, I believe it was called Fragging.


11 posted on 02/06/2013 6:26:15 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: exDemMom

A veterinarian would have far more health training than the average health inspector.


12 posted on 02/06/2013 6:26:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: nckerr
I recall being at an airport (Portland, IIRC), and I was in line at the Burger King.

The "chefs" were visible to us peeps in line, and what I saw caused me to avoid Burger King, thereafter.

The cook, dutifully wearing latex gloves, cleaned his ear with his forefinger, examined the result, then continued with his cooking and burger-building work.

Exception or rule? Hopefully the exception, but I choose never to return, thank-you.

.

13 posted on 02/06/2013 6:27:28 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: nckerr
Good God after seeing that picture makes me not want to eat at any fast food restaurant again and buy my own food and cook it.
Was watching a show with Gordon Ramsay where he goes in and helps people with restaurants that are going down hill and last week we saw one where the tomato source had mold in it.

14 posted on 02/06/2013 6:31:49 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Seaplaner

They don’t wear gloves in this BK if I remember right.


15 posted on 02/06/2013 6:32:41 PM PST by nckerr (www.myspace.com/ArmyKerrFamily)
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To: Hot Tabasco
The USAF Veterinary Services are responsible and have been inspecting food facilities for the past 65 years. They used to inspect the food prior to the military buying it, the processing of the food, and the dissemination of the food to the dining halls and food facilities. Jimmy Carter destroyed much of the USAF Veterinary Services by a Presidential action back in 1978. The USAF Veterinary Services as they were originally intended were disbanded in 1982. Now the food inspection facilities may or may not be inspected monthly by an enlisted member of the veterinary services and an officer of the medical service corps. No longer are the food inspection officers entirely veterinarians. Veterinarians have the education and epidemiological background to do the job of sanitation, moreso than any other career categories.
16 posted on 02/06/2013 6:33:44 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: nckerr
Yes, that picture of those maggots would suppress a appetite.
Then again ? if the economy where to collapse and there was no food you would be amazed in what people would eat.
17 posted on 02/06/2013 6:34:13 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: nckerr

“LOL- In the Army, veterinarians are cross trained as food inspectors as well.”

Well, kind of makes sense from a historical perspective, I mean after all what do you do after you’ve put the horse down ;)


18 posted on 02/06/2013 6:36:45 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: GeronL

On his last show I saw he was up in Pennsylvania where the restaurant had mold in it’s tomato sauce.


19 posted on 02/06/2013 6:36:53 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

Maggots are protein.


20 posted on 02/06/2013 6:38:34 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
It’s gotta be bad if you have to call in a veterinarian to inspect a restaurant......LOL!

Now is that nice?

The civilians out there don't know that Post or Base food inspection has always been done by Veterinary Services.

21 posted on 02/06/2013 6:39:19 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: nckerr

"But they're royal maggots!"
22 posted on 02/06/2013 6:39:38 PM PST by Rebelbase ( .223, .224, whatever it takes....)
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To: nckerr; JRandomFreeper

jrandomfreeper needs to weigh in on this ... I predict an awesome dress down

TT


23 posted on 02/06/2013 6:39:57 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: Mastador1
I saw a restaurant where the 2 deep friers had at least 1/4 to one inch of caked grease all over the inside and out.
Mold was on the walls it looked like the kitchen was not cleaned in years.
ohh yeah ? it was a Mexican restaurant in the US.
24 posted on 02/06/2013 6:40:32 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

there was a restaurant where a place right on the water, with folks ice fishing 100 feet away selling frozen food and FAKE crab.

I saw one show where a place was getting burgers wrong, seriously... how can you get burgers wrong?


25 posted on 02/06/2013 6:43:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: vetvetdoug

FWIW, the USAF Veterinary service caught the US Army veterinarians and technicians taking bribes in 1974 from food suppliers that were providing substandard and unwholesome food. There was a Senate investigation (1975) that resulted in around 90 Army members and DPSC personnel being sent to Ft. Leavenworth. The Army lobbied to have the USAF Veterinarians removed and with political influence Jimmy Carter signed the death warrant of the USAF Veterinary Services in 1978 which was completed in 1982. Now the jobs of the USAF Veterinary Corps has to have up to three officers taking the job of what was once one veterinarians’responsibility. Army Veterinarians are now stationed at USAF bases providing the animal care which was just one of the responsibilities the USAF veterinarian accomplished efficiently. Enlisted it took three Army MOS’ (91R,91S,91T) to do the job of one USAF 908XO because the USAF veterinary enlisted were selected from those that scored high on the AFQT tests.


26 posted on 02/06/2013 6:44:50 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: nckerr

Ha! A lady I work with just ate there last night. I can’t wait to tell her!


27 posted on 02/06/2013 6:48:08 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: TexasTransplant
I thought about it when I first saw it posted. And my red hair took over along with an NCO vocabulary. What I said was: "[REDACTED]".

Someone wasn't doing daily inspections on base. And they need to be [REDACTED] until their eyes bleed.

I'm an easygoing kind of guy, and I don't mind having to occasionally pry kitchen staff off of waitstaff in the linen closet with a crowbar (NOT ON THE CLEAN LINEN, DAMMIT), but food safety is very, very important.

Given that I wish to remain a Freeper, I think it's best to not actually say what I think in detail.

/johnny

28 posted on 02/06/2013 6:48:11 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Used to own a Restaurant... competitor called the Inspectors on us... figured out who they were, returned the favor ... we still had our “A” they were closed for a month and even then ended up with a “B”

TT

PS Don’t eat at a “B”


29 posted on 02/06/2013 6:48:58 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: Hot Tabasco
if you have to call in a veterinarian to inspect a restaurant.

That's standard practice for Army. In the AF, it's Flight Surgeon's office, in the Navy, it's usually a Medic who happens to be a Chief. Although on a JTF assignment, a Navy Captain (MD) did the inspection once, as I recall, with a Chief telling her where to find gotcha's.

/johnny

30 posted on 02/06/2013 6:52:07 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Love ya Johnny

TT

(We want to keep ya Freeper too)


31 posted on 02/06/2013 6:52:10 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: driftdiver
I remember many years ago my dad and I were up in New York city where we were at a restaurant that both of us once ate at.
I was wondering why we were not going there that day and he told me we won't be eating there any more because the last time he went there he discovered some extra protein that crawled out of his dish while eating it.
Yes, a roach crawled out of his dish while eating it.
It was a Chinese Restaurant near Penn Station.
That's exactly how he put it, extra protein.
32 posted on 02/06/2013 6:53:06 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist
That's exactly how he put it, extra protein.

Not only extra protein, but fresh and crunchy extra protein. :=)

33 posted on 02/06/2013 7:01:55 PM PST by Bob
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To: driftdiver
I remember being stationed at a base so remote that we had to drive 3 hours to get to another base with a Burger King. It was like going to civilization, maggots and all.

I was stationed on Terceira Island in the Azores archipelago for two years where there was no fast food of any kind and one evening the Portuguese chef at the NCO club put cinnamon on a pizza.

I have to say though, the local cuisine was much better than fast food.

34 posted on 02/06/2013 7:08:33 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: American Constitutionalist

There’s a Zaxby’s in Montgomery , Al. , that just went to court over severing a mouse in the green salad. A u-tube video out about the same restaurant , with a Cockroach crawling around the salad.


35 posted on 02/06/2013 7:14:45 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Bob

And some hotsauce to help it go down.


36 posted on 02/06/2013 7:15:02 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

I am not knocking Mexicans here, but one of the biggest problems I had as the balance of my employees shifted over time was getting my Hispanic employees to throw away food that fell on the floor. It was not because they were dirty or didn’t care, but because they had so little that they personally could not afford to waste food! I don’t think neglect or poor hygiene has a lock on any nationality, they are equal opportunity traits.


37 posted on 02/06/2013 7:16:20 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: nckerr

Flash: The Maggots were employees of the Defense Information Systems Agency.


38 posted on 02/06/2013 7:20:48 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: Bob

it’s like a little moving almond. yeah, that’s what it is....


39 posted on 02/06/2013 7:22:36 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: driftdiver

Well, there goes my appetite for this evening.


40 posted on 02/06/2013 7:55:08 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: driftdiver

Well, there goes my appetite for this evening.


41 posted on 02/06/2013 7:55:21 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: nckerr

bon appétit


42 posted on 02/06/2013 7:55:47 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Hot Tabasco

“It’s gotta be bad if you have to call in a veterinarian to inspect a restaurant......LOL!”

It actually goes back to the civil war days. Many of the soldiers died from foodbourne illnesses. I was an enlisted man in the Air Force and worked under a Veterinarian doing food and food facility inspections as well as some typical animal health work (vaccinations, military working dog health care etc.).


43 posted on 02/06/2013 8:31:57 PM PST by willk
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To: cripplecreek

“A veterinarian would have far more health training than the average health inspector.”

Sorry. Not true. A Vet may have more training in zoonotic diseases (diseases caused by infectious agents that can be transmitted between animals and humans) but a health inspector is more educated in public health concerns.


44 posted on 02/06/2013 8:42:38 PM PST by willk
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To: vetvetdoug

How sad. My Air Force Active duty ended in 1980 and I served 2 years in the Reserves while attending college. I heard then that big changes were going to be happening. The Air Force Veterinarians I worked under were really great people.


45 posted on 02/06/2013 8:50:51 PM PST by willk
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To: willk
I have to disagree with your statement. Veterinarians are trained in public health, epidemiology, and are more aware of food borne illnesses since most, if not all, diseases come from animal sources. Veterinarians have far more microbiology than would a typical health inspector with a bachelor's degree. Veterinarians are trained in the sanitation of food processing such as milk and meat. As a veterinarian and a former USAF and Army veterinary service member, I can state unequivocally that veterinarians in the public health sector are far better educated in public health than a run of the mill health inspector. In fact, many epidemiologists and public health masters degrees are earned by postdoctoral veterinarians. Most public health department executives are veterinarians with MPH’s.

Veterinarians are on the leading edge of Avian Influenza research and epidemiology..why do they call it Bird Flu? SARS was a Coronavirus that the CDC had to bring in veterinarians that specialize in coronaviruses to help them in the tracking, treatment, and monitoring of the disease. The cause of AIDS was identified as a STD like FTLV or FELV by a veterinarian and it was the prejudice of the MD's that ignored his information until a microbiologist in France identified it as a retrovirus.

46 posted on 02/06/2013 9:06:16 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: JRandomFreeper
I took a baker/prisoner through the chow line many years ago and he was rejecting the forks. He showed me egg that was still in the fork tines. This was one of two people who was monitoring the contract. How no one ever got ill is beyond me.
47 posted on 02/06/2013 9:16:31 PM PST by Domangart
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To: vetvetdoug

I already decided I may be wrong. After all I did not go to vet school. I guess I was thinking about other areas of environmental health such as haz mat, solid and liquid waste etc. That is what I do now. I actually work in a county not far from the base where I was stationed. The base closed long ago and now serves as an air cargo airport.


48 posted on 02/06/2013 9:40:31 PM PST by willk
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