Posted on 02/09/2013 6:36:16 AM PST by Brandonmark
The fugitive ex-policeman Christopher Dorner, suspected of killing three people and injuring two, had a history of making complaints against fellow officers within the Los Angeles Police Department, and one officer said he had a reputation as a "hot head," according to internal affairs records.
Dorner was accused of punching a recruit in the chest while he was in the Police Academy in 2006. That recruit, Abraham Schefres, was wearing a bulletproof vest and a trauma plate, when Dorner allegedly punched him. After being hit, he glared at Dorner, whom Schefres said responded as though he had made a mistake, records show. Schefres said he believed that Dorner had not been trying to hurt him but that the punch was "more of a 'hello'" and to appear tough.
Schefres told an investigator that he "believed this was part of Dorner’s persona," records show. Schefres described Dorner as "a hot head" who would walk up to fellow recruits and "get in their faces in an aggressive" but joking way.
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Whenever I see a really crackpot post I assume that the author is a Birther. I'm not batting 1.000, but I am over .900:
When you go out and start murdering the family members of guys who made you mad, and random folks who happen to work for the same employer, you are a kook, and a criminal. Even if the LAPD members he was feuding with did everything he claims, that just means that this was a dispute among criminals, and I'm not inclined to take this murderous Lefty's word that he was done wrong.
Getting stomped on is one of the “fun” things here on FR. =)
God forbid you try to be rational, no can do!
Another question I had is are they investigating ANY of his claims? Of course not. I’m sure he would be proven correct.
He named names, places, situations. What about the ex cop he dated and broke it off with. She then tried to hack into his account, had the proof it was her and yet denied him....once again.
Seems like his 1st “offense” was trying to rectify the abuse his partner inflicted on a mentally ill “perp”, whom was kicked twice in the stomach and once in the face, AFTER he was in cuffs.
In regards to the officers that were “ambushed”. They lay blame on him. Have you heard of any evidence that came out confirming it was indeed him? Perhaps I missed it.
Someone in another thread stated now that this story is all over the place, real criminals can use it to “take out the fuzz”, and of course the blame would be put squarely on him.
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me.
Yes, I used a child’s statement to match your childish comment.
And yes, I am a “birther”. What does that have to do with this thread?
“Thanks to all the “birthers” out there who have done MUCH research on their own time and dime and passed it along to the rest of us and would NOT allow this lie to stand. 20 posted on 4/5/2011 4:06:17 PM by NoGrayZone”
Giving props to fellow FReepers spending their own time and dime to FIND OUT AND EXPOSE THE TRUTH now makes me a kook?
LMAO!! Perhaps the LAPD can take some lessons from us “birthers” and SHINE LIGHT UPON THE TRUTH AND STOP PERPETUATING INJUSTICE.
I “talk” a lot here. I wonder how long it took you to find one of my posts you “could use against me” (lol) dating back to 4/5/11!
BTW, that’s all you could find to “kook” me??? Again, lol.
“In regards to the officers that were “ambushed”. They lay blame on him. Have you heard of any evidence that came out confirming it was indeed him? Perhaps I missed it.”
One of the officers survived and said it was him and I don’t see why he would lie about that. They were at a stop light and Dorner appeared and shot them. This attack was at the beginning of this thing and I don’t think a copy cat would have started this fast, plus a copy cat wouldn’t have known where these cops were going. Granted, a copy cat could have just walked out and shot them, not knowing where they were going, but why would the one not killed lie about who it was? No matter who it was, it wasn’t going to get him in trouble.
“When you go out and start murdering the family members of guys who made you mad, and random folks who happen to work for the same employer, you are a kook...”
A “kook” is a word one would use who didn’t known much about human behavior - you qualify.
Come on. They've shown they want to shoot him down in cold blood. Doesn't sound paranoid to me. They really have been out to get him.
At this point, I would advise caution, as there clearly will be an effort to deconstruct, dehumanize and vilify the man.
And those that do so are not pristine individuals themselves. In his manifesto he complained of widespread corruption in the LAPD, which only recently stopped being under supervision after a series of corruption and brutality scandals.
The MSM are particularly good at demonizing those they hate.
Ohhhhh, because cops don't lie. Good point.
"Come on. They've shown they want to shoot him down in cold blood. Doesn't sound paranoid to me. They really have been out to get him."
Yeah, just ask the innocent civilians they've already shot. Thank God for the innocents they were terrible shooters.
Sorry, didn’t mean to sound so sarcastic. It’s just the LAPD who are “reporting” the info.
We all know for some time how corrupt they are. I have a very hard time believing anything that comes from their mouths, especially now.
The fact they SHOT UPON innocent civilians? I guess we know who said yes to “would you shoot upon American citizens”.
No, not because they don't lie, because there wasn't a REASON to lie in that instance. The cops were not at fault so why lie about any of it? That's why I think he told the truth, plus I don't believe in the coincidence of a copy cat attacking two cops who just happened to be going to the house of a man on the kill list.
There it is: too far fetched/too coincidental to happen the way you suggest. Yes, cops lie but I don't think this one did since there was no real upside to it.
I honestly can’t make heads or tails of this situation.
I’m not a big believer in coincidence, never was. But in this upside down evil world we now inhabit, who knows?
White used to be white, black used to be black, right used to be right and wrong used to be wrong.
Oh, and gals were gals and men were men.
Now it’s all mis-moshed and reversed.
I don’t like it. I have developed an already distrust of man into an even bigger one.
I would say it’s still open to debate whether he is crazy, but he is definitely not stupid. If he were, he would probably be resting comfortably on a marble slab by now.
The hideous part, from the LEO perspective, is that this “defector” might encourage other cops to blow the whistle on abuse and corruption in their departments. They need to kill him not just to silence him but to discourage his actions from becoming a movement. That’s what manifestos are designed to do, create a movement.
Frankly, I wouldn’t mind a series of copycat events perpetrated by a disgruntled derivatives trader or globalist banker upon his peers.
Yes, because when you are explaining why you have a grievance against your employer, the smart move is to dwell upon things that happened to you in first grade. I mean that is obvious. Every rational person does that.
Once again, I am just trying to understand this situation as information comes in.
I’ve said in other threads (probably this one as well), see my tagline.
Reminds me of a situation regarding my nephew. He walked into the boys room and found a few bullies sticking this other boys head under a running sink.
He did not believe it was right and came to the defense of this boy being abused. He fought the bullies and of course got in trouble for “fighting”.
He continued to watch out for this boy, to be sure he wasn’t put in harms way again.
The cancer of evil has now infected the world, more so than previously.
What of the mentally ill person this mans partner inflicted pain upon, after he was in cuffs? Why wasn’t she fired? She also had other cites against her for excessive force....but yet she retains her job and the man who tried to rectify it was ruined.
Sorry, that is simply not justice.
So far, it sounds to me, from all the info released thus far, this man saw the injustice his supposed “brother and sisters” were inflicting upon the innocent and tried to stop it.
He got screwed for doing just that.
Sounds like he was No Good from the start—I read a stain of Racism in his Manifesto as well. He should never have been made an officer in the first place. If we are lucky he will just go someplace and die. I fear we have not seen the last of this Joker.
I would agree with both points, the traits reported by those who had contact with him from the start of his association with the police, indicate he was certainly a black racist, a classist (as in "some pigs are more equal than others"), resented authority even when properly used, was a s**t disturber with a bad attitude, and was cocky and arrogant.
His manifesto cites several Marxist political goals and black cult leader worship.
Possibly Eric Holder's New Black Panther Division of Justice could have risen to this guy's level of evenhanded policing and officer camaraderie.
Reputation as a hot head? Never suspected it. ;’)
Quick, someone condemn the LAPD for spreading agitprop!
Thanks Brandonmark.
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