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Obama Lawn Sign Battle Rips Apart Community, Bankrupts Homeowner's Association
Christian Post ^ | 2/11/13 | Myles Collier

Posted on 02/11/2013 12:50:46 PM PST by OKRA2012

A confrontation over a political sign and a community's Home Owners Association has occupied four years and nearly half a million dollars in legal fees.

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1 posted on 02/11/2013 12:50:51 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: OKRA2012

HOAs AND 0bama supporters are overly emotional.


2 posted on 02/11/2013 12:54:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: OKRA2012

Don’t follow the link. It brings up an ad.


3 posted on 02/11/2013 1:03:22 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: OKRA2012

They posted a sign that was too big.
They were notified of the violation.

They reduced the size of the sign.

The HOA still levied a fine. The owners fought back and won.

The other owners should be very angry at the Board members who approved the fine against the compliant sign.

HOAs are great, as long as everyone follows the rules they agreed to when they bought.


4 posted on 02/11/2013 1:06:25 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Externination)
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To: OKRA2012

Pretty crazy. The HOA said that the sign was 4” too big, so the homeowners cut the sign in half.

End of story, you’d think. But no, they had to continue the lawsuit right into bankruptcy. What else did they expect?


5 posted on 02/11/2013 1:06:53 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: OKRA2012

“... Bankrupts Homeowner’s Association...”

precisely what should happen to these silly little fiefdoms!


6 posted on 02/11/2013 1:07:20 PM PST by petro45acp (No good endeavour survives an excess of adult supervision)
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To: OKRA2012

Lest anyone doubt the natural inclination of mankind to petty tyranny, we have HOAs to disabuse us of such notions.


7 posted on 02/11/2013 1:09:16 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Owl558

And those who shouldnt be in charge always work their way in.


8 posted on 02/11/2013 1:13:48 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: petro45acp

Some Mexican families bought a new home in my neighborhood. I use the plural because the restrictions are one family per home. They sheetrocked the walk 2 feet behind the garage door. Many time they leave the garage door open and you can see studs and insulation. The HOA is getting the problem fixed. So, I can’t complain too much about the HOA.


9 posted on 02/11/2013 1:15:05 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is no more?)
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To: Beelzebubba
"HOAs are great, as long as everyone follows the rules they agreed to when they bought."

While that's generally correct, there are always people who can become obsessed with even a small amount of power over their fellow beings.

10 posted on 02/11/2013 1:16:56 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: petro45acp

I find it refreshing and telling that conservatives can apply their values even when they support someone we disagree with politically.

If only the other side were as intellectually honest.


11 posted on 02/11/2013 1:17:26 PM PST by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: Beelzebubba
HOAs are great, as long as everyone follows the rules they agreed to when they bought.

Yeah, but what happens when the day comes you cannot but into anything that isn't HOA?

Ever read Agenda 21?

Who, grants HOA's their power?

12 posted on 02/11/2013 1:19:06 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Terry Mross

See your point, but that will only be good until the hoa determines there is a problem with your own property. Then it will be (should be) “what business is it of yours if I want to paint my door red or plant a certain variety of bush...”

Thought this whole thing was about building/making a home, and not about the property values.

.02

YMMV


13 posted on 02/11/2013 1:21:18 PM PST by petro45acp (No good endeavour survives an excess of adult supervision)
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To: Owl558

Lest anyone doubt the natural inclination of mankind to petty tyranny, we have HOAs to disabuse us of such notions.


Actually, it’s a conservative principle that private owners can put their own rules on their own property (the developer, hoping to attract buyers who value the rules). Moreover, we also agree that governance should be at the most local level possible.


14 posted on 02/11/2013 1:23:25 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Externination)
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To: OKRA2012

$400,000 in legal fees for the HOA. I bet their counsel put a ring through their noses and led them down a path of daisies while uttering assurances of success all the way to bank.


15 posted on 02/11/2013 1:24:03 PM PST by Rebelbase ( .223, .224, whatever it takes....)
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To: OKRA2012
So in order to comply with regulations, the Farrans simply cut the sign in half. Unfortunately, the HOA did not find the action to be appropriate and decided to levy a $900 for the yard sign, setting off an epic legal battle.

Not enough info. Did they put the two halves next to each other? Is there a restriction to the number of signs?

16 posted on 02/11/2013 1:24:03 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Owl558
Lest anyone doubt the natural inclination of mankind to petty tyranny, we have HOAs to disabuse us of such notions.

And also a great reminder of mankinds great willingness to surrender freedom in exchange for placing heavy restrictions on others.

17 posted on 02/11/2013 1:24:45 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

>>Yeah, but what happens when the day comes you cannot but into anything that isn’t HOA?

Absurd premise leads to absurd results. HOAs exist only as much as there is perceived free-market demand for what they offer. Most HOA rules even provide a process for their own dissolution. The vast majority of residences and residential lots are not in HOAs.

>>Ever read Agenda 21?

Make your point, instead of trying to disqualify me.

>>Who, grants HOA’s their power?

The private property owner who owned the land that was subdivided into the lots. Anyone opposed to HOAs is basically opposed to private property rights.


18 posted on 02/11/2013 1:28:33 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Externination)
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To: Beelzebubba

“Actually, it’s a conservative principle that private owners can put their own rules on their own property (the developer, hoping to attract buyers who value the rules). Moreover, we also agree that governance should be at the most local level possible.”

Actually so its he builder can control the homeowners they’ve screwed until they sell the remaining homes.

HOAs are the pipe dream of the petty dictator. Most people dont understand them or even know about them before signing the contract.


19 posted on 02/11/2013 1:31:00 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: OKRA2012
Home Owners Association, worst approval than congress!

I'm torn, they are Obama supporters, but they did take down their HOA !!

20 posted on 02/11/2013 1:32:57 PM PST by TexasCajun
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