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Former Boy Scout leader indicted, accused of molesting boys
WMC TV 5 ^ | 2/11/2013 | Michael Clark

Posted on 02/12/2013 6:14:39 AM PST by Sybeck1

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To: babble-on
Just think of the Sandusky case as your best guideline. An adult male in a stable marriage with children who in total secrecy is also a pedophile of young boys, with no indication of any homosexual relations with any adult men.

Key word here is "secrecy". They are able to molest young boys because they are not suspected of being a threat. Open homosexuals would not have the opportunity to be alone with boys as often.

41 posted on 02/12/2013 10:11:23 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: babble-on
Objective. To determine if recognizably homosexual adults are frequently accused of the sexual molestation of children.

Peered reviews by ideological morally devoid leftists no doubt. The premise is fatally flawed. This study you tout is as such just more leftist propaganda. If you buy into it THEN you are a useful idiot that even a 'libertarian' claim of moral ambivalence does not excuse.

Children that are homosexually abused could care less why or care less what the pervert who did such feels or what orientation they may think and or claim to be.

The study clearly attempts by flawed premise to suggest that there are 'normal' homosexual sex practitioners -there are not -ALL those that engage in such activities with children or adults are abnormal -they are disordered heterosexuals requiring just discrimination when it comes to access to children.

42 posted on 02/12/2013 10:28:14 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Sybeck1

This is the fault of the Pope, uh, er, oh wait, nevermind.


43 posted on 02/12/2013 10:31:08 AM PST by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: PapaBear3625

Exactly. Therefore it stands to reason that an out-of-the-closet adult homosexual would NOT represent the same threat at all. And since the current policy ONLY excludes the out of the closet group, and does nothing to stop those operating in secrecy, I would say it’s pretty damn ineffective.


44 posted on 02/12/2013 11:04:58 AM PST by babble-on
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To: jwalsh07

You are totally missing the point that male homosexuals who are in relationships with other adult males are abusing children at rates lower than their percentage in the general population.

The men who are sexually abusing young boys are in 98% of cases men whose other sexual relationships are with adult WOMEN. That is the overwhelming result in study after study. There is NO correlation between being a gay man and being a sexual abuser of young people.


45 posted on 02/12/2013 11:10:34 AM PST by babble-on
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To: babble-on
Therefore it stands to reason that an out-of-the-closet adult homosexual would NOT represent the same threat at all.

Except for one thing: looking at other groups with significant numbers of gay men, gays push to hire gays. So a gay man in any sort of position of authority will attempt to surround himself with other gay men, including those who are not "out" to the rest of us.

46 posted on 02/12/2013 11:21:42 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: babble-on
The men who are sexually abusing young boys are in 98% of cases men whose other sexual relationships are with adult WOMEN.

You have it backwards.

They are in relationships with women FOR THE PURPOSE OF being able to get access to their young children.

Gay men who are attracted to young boys strive to put themselves in positions of trust where they have access to young boys, whether that be seemingly-straight boyfriend of a mother, priest, teacher, or scoutmaster.

47 posted on 02/12/2013 11:26:55 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: babble-on

You couldn’t be more wrong.

At which homo bathhouse were the studies you are citing performed?

Heterosexual males do not abuse boys. Homos do.

Homos make up somewhere around 2-3% and commit probably half if not more of the child molestation.


48 posted on 02/12/2013 12:02:48 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I don’t think I do have it backwards. Look at the case of Jerry Sandusky. He had a long stable sexually active and fruitful marriage to a woman, and prior to that marriage only had a record of dating women. He was a straight man.

He also had a sickness of idiopathic origin that made him want to have sex with young boys. There is no anti-gay ban on earth that would have had any effect in stopping Sandusky, because he was not gay. He was a heterosexual male pedophile whose victims were male. And the research shows that is who becomes child molesters of both boys and of girls.

Men who - often through some sexual trauma they themselves experienced as a child - have normal heterosexual relationships with other adults, but also a second sexual identity that compels them to molest children.

And again, I reiterate as well that I think it is remarkable that the people on this thread ONLY seem interested in stopping these men from abusing young boys, and seem totally indifferent to the far far more common crime of abusing young girls. I guess that’s mostly because it’s a Boy Scout thread, but I wonder.


49 posted on 02/12/2013 12:49:30 PM PST by babble-on
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To: babble-on
He had a long stable sexually active and fruitful marriage to a woman, and prior to that marriage only had a record of dating women. He was a straight man. He also had a sickness of idiopathic origin that made him want to have sex with young boys.

ho·mo·sex·u·al : (Noun) A person who is sexually attracted to people of their own sex.

A person who sexually desires a male (of whatever age) is, by definition, a homosexual, or at least bisexual. No man who sexually desires other males (of whatever age) can be considered "straight". Are you really going to continue to argue this?

50 posted on 02/12/2013 2:01:31 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: babble-on
And again, I reiterate as well that I think it is remarkable that the people on this thread ONLY seem interested in stopping these men from abusing young boys, and seem totally indifferent to the far far more common crime of abusing young girls. I guess that’s mostly because it’s a Boy Scout thread, but I wonder.

This is a Boy Scout thread, on the topic of allowing gays in, and concerns about sexual molestation. That is the topic. You can start a thread on the subject of men who like molesting young girls any time you want.

The gay subculture even has a term for older homosexuals who prefer young boys: Chickenhawk. There's an organization for such (NAMBLA). There's documentaries on the subculture. The orientation is a recognized part of homosexuality.

51 posted on 02/12/2013 2:14:48 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: babble-on
For your viewing pleasure, a 1994 documentary on the "Chicken Hawks", with lots of interviews:

Chicken Hawk - Men Who Love Boys (1994)

52 posted on 02/12/2013 2:19:44 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Sybeck1
filthy disease ridden queers strike again...
53 posted on 02/12/2013 3:35:00 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: lacrew

Two words for anyone who thinks queer males should be trusted to watch over young boys.

JESSE DIRKHISING

If you don’t recognize those two words do a search and you will realize to what extent the media goes to cover up the truth. There is no excuse for the fact that most people have heard the name Matthew Shepard but only a very few have heard of JESSE DIRKHISING. This is media bias at its most evil and extreme.


54 posted on 02/12/2013 5:26:05 PM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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