Levin: US preparing for societal collapse by buying up billions of rounds of ammo [AUDIO]

The Daily Caller ^ | 2/16/2013 | Jeff Poor

[taildragger]

On Friday’s night broadcast of his radio show, Mark Levin speculated that the federal government is stockpiling ammunition to ensure the rule of law in the event of a total societal and economic collapse.

[familyop]

"From what I am hearing, manufacturing is starting to return to the US. But it’s due to robots, they won’t be bringing jobs back with them. But at least things will be made here and taxes paid."

I was a custom machinist. Yes, many of the newer small shops are using CNC equipment (mostly not really robotic operations) pushed by the elite folks--equipment that keeps many of those producers in debt. During the late-'90s and early '80s, we were using machines that were made during WWI through WWII.

Many of those ancient machines were sent out of country, to be operated by foreign slaves. To counter the usual false accusations, no. I wasn't union during most of my work in custom parts runs. The truth is that a custom machinist can make parts as fast as more automated setups can--many of which lines have been reverted to more manual work (costs, lack of skills available to such shops, etc.).

Requires more skill than CNC operation, though (which involved some math, tape-writing and still, setups, back in my time there). CNC machining has its own problems (e.g. requiring a real machinist again for setups, backlash, other play, special material problems--i.e., inconsistencies in hardness requiring feed & speed tweaks, etc.).

"Lack of jobs, especially good jobs is one of our biggest problems and no one seems to be stepping up to the plate."

Even in my area in the middle of nowhere, there's a zoning ordinance (which they call a "law") against any and all manufacturing, even on large lots (and also against any automotive repair work--see single garage in town quite a few miles away charging over $100 per hour for repairs often not getting vehicles running--yes, rackets). Many American men are treating their practice in making various useful items with mostly idle equipment as a hobby for now.

Avoid buying anything that you don't really need, and become as self-sufficient as possible (focus on energy, too, if needed for your climate). The more people doing those things, the more peaceful, moral and orderly our future will be. For now, we're being administered, gossiped about and harassed for trivial excuses by too many irresponsible persons (heh--little sarcasm for the politically correct there), who sit on their rear ends, producing not much more than panic, hysteria, extortions and trouble in general.

[Vermont Lt]

Buy American products. And pay twice as much for them.

We are screwed.

[familyop]

"You have a homework assignment, Google the Czech Republic's tax code, and compare, and post your results here."

"Nonpolitical politics," eh (see Vaclav Havel)?

"You will be shocked as to how their code will kick out sorry butts.... "

Interesting. Czech also has some practices that would make government-connected business interests afraid.

[familyop]

China Imposes Tariff on US Car Imports

WTO helping China Loot Caterpillar
americanthinker.com ^ | 10/04/2010 | Howard Richman & Raymond Richman

"Why can’t Caterpillar make a profit exporting mini-excavators to China? The answer is simple: China has a 30% tariff on all excavators. In fact it has a similar high tariff on just about every vehicle, be it a Ford car, a GMC truck, a Harley Davidson motorcycle, or a giant mining machine made by Bucyrus International."

The United States Constitution, Article I, Section 8:
“The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;...To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations,...”

The Tariff Act of 1789 was the first national source of revenue for the newly formed United States.

[familyop]

"Buy American products. And pay twice as much for them."

Have a look at the "balance of payments deficit," caused by trade imbalance. Thus, the debt problem, and the dollar must fall. It does no good to prop the dollar up artificially and communistically in the global market. The weight, due to trade imbalances, balances of payments deficits, etc., will eventually push the dollar down, even if that event takes place by way of repudiation, currency adjustment, and so on. It will happen. Then, foreign products will be much higher than domestic ones.

[sten]

consumers will b te cheaper, US produced product

obviously

[sten]

consumers will buy the cheaper, US produced product

obviously

[dragnet2]

I occasionally misplace my garden party grey poupon manners...Nothing personal jane. Can we still be friends?

[GOPJ]

"I know why the government is arming up. It’s not because there’s going to be an insurrection. It’s because our society is unraveling.”

No, that's waaaay to rational for the left. Liberals actually believe their 'spend it all now and borrow more and more forever' plan will work. If Homeland Security was worried about mobs they'd invest in tanks. Bullets in that quantity aren't used for crowd control they're used to murder citizens.

[little jeremiah]

Several of your items could be rolled into one:

1. Eliminate everything the fedgov does that is not mandated by the Constitution.

[Windflier]

...my idea, strengthens America. Yours weakens her.

That's illogical.

Lowering business taxes and regulation in this country will not only attract American manufacturers back to our shores, it will also attract foreign investment here.

The net result of policies which produce that scenario will strengthen this country, and create more jobs.

Imposing punitive tariffs and penalties on companies that produce goods imported into this country won't attract more business here, or cause American manufacturers to bring their operations home. Frankly, I think a lot of companies would simply decide to forgo the American market altogether, under that harshened climate.

The free market is going to go where costs are minimized, and profits are maximized. If you can figure out how to structure your nation's tax laws and regulations around that axiom, you're going to see an increase in businesses operating in your country.

It's as simple as that.

[Windflier]

The Tariff Act of 1789 was the first national source of revenue for the newly formed United States.

I'm sure that worked just fine during the first half century of our nation's existence, when our government was so small that it could barely carry out its constitutional obligations.

There wasn't much that America needed in the way of imported goods in those days, so what little tax was raised on the goods that were imported into the US, was probably sufficient to fund the government.

It's not a good argument to increase tariffs today, when nearly all the commerce of the globe is interconnected, and national economies are so interlocked with one another.

As for Caterpillar, they sell their equipment all over the world. If China wants to protect their domestic heavy equipment manufacturers with high tariffs on foreign equipment makers, so be it. Their purchasing public is just going to be punished for buying the better quality foreign-made equipment. It's their loss. Caterpillar is likely doing just fine in countries that don't impose such punitive tariffs.

[Terry Mross]

All you freepers who’ve been saying for several years to “invest in lead” were right. Ammo prices have gone through the roof. If you can find what you need.

[lentulusgracchus]

[Articles]
Levin argued that the federal government sees what is playing out in Europe and is preparing for that sort of scenario.

“You see what’s going on in Greece, in Spain and Portugal and other parts of the world? That’s what they fear, and yet, they’ve caused it.”

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"Miserification".

Miserification is what happens when financial disaster destroys the currency, cripples the economy, and massively reproletarizes the middle class, and not so coincidentally increases the leverage of the rich and ultra-rich against the whole of the rest of the society, because despite their own losses, they are left with an oligopoly of resources and jobs. Their leverage against labor and consumers is massively increased.

Argentina was the test case of a melted economy and state. The question now is whether other governments are consciously replicating the 2001 Argentine meltdown, at the insistence of the plutocratically rich, as was argued by survivalist blogger and Argentine expat Ferfal Aguirres (who now blogs from -- of all places -- Belfast).

Competing explanations of the economic travesty of the last five years abound, and the sort of conscious parallelism, or outright command-and-control, required for Ferfal's conceit of a manipulated economic mega-meltdown literally to be true, is very hard to imagine across thousands of key players and dozens of countries.

If it's any consolation, Ferfal's blog records a slower devolution than what the Feds appear to be rucking-up for; it took three or four years for municipal water supplies, for example, to become so compromised by lack of maintenance that people had to begin boiling their city water to ward off water-borne diseases. A ramping-up of criminal predation appears to have occurred more rapidly. I would refer readers to navigate to Ferfal's blog and start reading.

[lentulusgracchus]

Ammo prices have gone through the roof. If you can find what you need.

I picked up a case of ammo last October "just for the hell of it" because the guy had ordered in a case, expecting to break it up and sell it piecemeal. I took it off his hands the same day -- and now I feel like a minor genius.

[lentulusgracchus]

And to break it down further, the fate of the world is determined by 5 cities which total 132 electoral votes. And those cites all vote Democrat. Want to know why the world is falling apart? Think of Cleveland, Chicago, NYC, LA and Philly.

Throw in Miami, that's another problem child -- Dade and Broward Counties. St. Louis might be another.

If they are not lucky, some jihadi rocketeer with a bunch of Paki nuclear weapons at hand will solve their overpopulation problem.