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Obama DHS Purchases 2,700 Light-Armored Tanks to Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullet Stockpile
Jim Hoft on gatewaypundit.com ^ | 3/3/13

Posted on 03/04/2013 6:00:13 AM PST by Liz

This is getting a little creepy. According to one estimate, since last year the Department of Homeland Security has stockpiled more than 1.6 billion bullets, mainly .40 caliber and 9mm. DHS also purchased 2,700 Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles (MRAP). (30-35,0000 drones are on order--being built in Starkville, Miss.)

Modern Survival Blog reported: The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.

Although I’ve seen and read several online blurbs about this vehicle of late, I decided to dig slightly deeper and discover more about the vehicle itself.

The new DHS sanctioned ‘Street Sweeper’ (my own slang due to the gun ports) is built by Navistar Defense (NavistarDefense.com), a division within the Navistar organization. Under the Navistar umbrella are several other companies including International Trucks, IC Bus (they make school buses), Monaco RV (recreational vehicles), WorkHorse (they make chassis), MaxxForce (diesel engines), and Navistar Financial (the money arm of the company).

DHS even released a video on their newly purchased MRAPs. LINK AT WEB SITE ---Via Pat Dollard:

The MRAP featured in the video was in Albuquerque, New Mexico for Law Enforcement Day which was held at a local area Target Store. This MRAP is stationed in El Paso, Texas at The Homeland Security Investigations Office. MRAP is a Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicle.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/obama-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks-to-go-with-their-1-6-billion-bullet-stockpile/


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammunition; banglist; cw2; dhs; drones; dsj; guncontrol; m1117; mrap; secondamendment; shtf; styg; tyranny
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It's inevitable that the watchful citizenry become paranoid conspiracy theorists when reading that the DHS is buying thousands of tanks (ostensibly to patrol American streets), billions of rounds of ammo, (and unmanned drones ordered to shoot down unarmed citizenry?). America under Nobama is swiftly turning into a socialist totalitarian police state.

Remember when DHS' Napolitano said the greatest terrorist threat the Obama administration faced were the US Military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan?

1 posted on 03/04/2013 6:00:22 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
but they aren't fire proof... it's coming...
2 posted on 03/04/2013 6:03:16 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Liz

I fault Bush for creating yet another massive Gov’t bureaucracy in the first place.

If you create such a huge agency, staff it with tens of thousands of people, give it billions of dollars, what do you think its going to do? It will find a mission for itself.


3 posted on 03/04/2013 6:05:49 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Liz

The drones are to keep tabs on the undocumented aliens that they just released into the country.
The tanks are to help tow people during big snowstorms.

< / believe that?>


4 posted on 03/04/2013 6:06:47 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Liz

If true, and I have no reason to doubt it, then WTF does DHS need 2700 armored vehicles for? It has been pretty easy to explain away the ammo, but what can anyone possibly say armored vehicles are for? Training? Yea, right.

30-35,000 drones? Must be planning on having a bunch shot down.


5 posted on 03/04/2013 6:07:31 AM PST by saleman
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To: Liz

He’s becoming more like Mugabe every day.


6 posted on 03/04/2013 6:07:31 AM PST by skeeter
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping!


7 posted on 03/04/2013 6:07:39 AM PST by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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To: Liz

Deeply unsettling.


8 posted on 03/04/2013 6:08:45 AM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: saleman

and they practice against women and children targets,

there is a war going on


9 posted on 03/04/2013 6:11:04 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Chode

I could stop one of those with a few hundred gallons of water. Create some kind of blockage in the street with an inviting stretch of grass next to it on the shoulder... (suitably soaked) and that monster will sink in like nobody’s business.


10 posted on 03/04/2013 6:11:04 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Liz

BUMP ....for posterity


11 posted on 03/04/2013 6:11:45 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: PGR88
"If you create such a huge agency, staff it with tens of thousands of people, give it billions of dollars, what do you think its going to do? It will find a mission for itself."

Agree....but hasten to add....

As you indirectly point out, the first mission of any bureaucracy is to defend itself, period. This can be done in a few ways, including creating their own mission as you so correctly pointed out.

In this case, I think DHS was handed a devil's bouquet by the Obama administration. He is obviously turning them into his own, personal army to be deployed right here in the US of A, facing off against any and all US citizens who dare to oppose his dictatorial, Socialist/Communist regime's goals of total domination.

This is 1930's Germany all over again....and NO one outside of a few conservative sites/blogs is saying spit about it.

12 posted on 03/04/2013 6:13:36 AM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Liz

Maybe they are for use as rescue vehicles in the inner city, where the residents randomly fire on police and fire vehicles.

Yeah, it is creepy. 2700 is a lot of them.


13 posted on 03/04/2013 6:13:51 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Chode

someone got a pic of those new DHS targets??


14 posted on 03/04/2013 6:14:46 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Liz
The socialist revolution is building its forces.... we know who the enemy is


15 posted on 03/04/2013 6:16:56 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Gene Eric
Deeply unsettling.

Very. I believe there is a very real, non-zero chance that in the near future - before obozo's last (?) term is up - we may all have to make a choice. A choice between being sheep herded by the new-age socialist/fascists and being part of the Constitutional resistance.

Hey, maybe this is all getting blown out of proportion, maybe people are just connecting the dots in weird ways. But maybe not. There are enough indicators that reasonable people have to start taking the threat seriously.

16 posted on 03/04/2013 6:19:01 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: GeronL

As someone else pointed out...

the people in those targets are not just all white,
but the women appear to be ethnically Jewish as well.


17 posted on 03/04/2013 6:19:34 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: saleman

that’s more than 1 assault vehicle for every illegal immigrant 0bama released......please enlighten me on how easy it has been to explain away the 1.6 billion rounds.


18 posted on 03/04/2013 6:20:25 AM PST by stickywillie (say all the bad stuff you want about phedophiles, but they slow down in school zones.)
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To: MrB

they also appear to be in their own homes/yards

and none of them have assault rifles


19 posted on 03/04/2013 6:22:16 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ThunderSleeps

“I could stop one of those with a few hundred gallons of water. Create some kind of blockage in the street with an inviting stretch of grass next to it on the shoulder... (suitably soaked) and that monster will sink in like nobody’s business.”

OK, lets assume you caught it. Now what? Since every store and building has surveillance cameras, and there will be govt drones hovering about, how do you plan to create an obstruction and flood the grass without being recognized? All you have accomplished is to get their tank dirty, create a minor inconveniece in waiting for another tank to tow it out, and get yourself arrested/shot.


20 posted on 03/04/2013 6:22:26 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Liz

Rest of the story?

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=avi+lipkin+&mid=CA5110A9D980BAB689E1CA5110A9D980BAB689E1&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1


21 posted on 03/04/2013 6:23:03 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Chode

I am thinking swimming pool tablets...


22 posted on 03/04/2013 6:25:40 AM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: basil; Grampa Dave; sickoflibs; ken5050; GOPJ; justiceseeker93; 2nd amendment mama; Chode; ...
Course, I may be a bit cynical (cackle)......but Hollywood coming down hard on Michele's scary Oscar visibility could be reason to let the tanks roll over Beverly Hills, Rodeo Drive, Malibu, and like environs.

Mrs O was roundly criticized---those in the seats say Hollywood heaved a collective groan when she appeared.

DEMOCRATS LIKE DONNY DEUTSCH WEIGHED IN: "As far as I'm concerned, she was an uninvited guest. Now what I mean by that is (as an advert guru), you have to give the consumer, the viewer, the ultimate respect. They tuned in to watch movie stars, to watch movies. And all of a sudden, politics is thrown at them."

"If I want to watch her on Jimmy Fallon, that's okay. But, (the Awards)---that was an intrusion, and I have a feeling that three out of four Americans -- Democrat or Republican -- don't want to see the First Lady (there). I think you have to respect your audience enough to not impose her, that's not a moment we're looking for there---the President or the First Lady," Deutsch said on CNN's "Piers Morgan Tonight."

DONNY CONTINUED: "....the tone of it, it was almost a monarch quality.....an elitist flavor to it. I was watching and going, 'huh?' and I'm a Democrat," Deutsch told host Piers Morgan. "I just thought it was very very tone deaf and I was really surprised they did it," Deutsch concluded.

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Ohaha showed his hand: he's using the "Argentina Strategy." He and his wife see themselves as Juan and Evita wanabes---with unlimited power---employing military strongmen to keep the rabble in check---while duping the citizenry into thinking they are "humanitarians.

SOUND FAMILIAR? The Perons bankrupted Argentina, took savage, total power by confiscating money from the rich-----and letting Evita bestow the money on the poor, in numerous well-publicized "acts of charity."

Evita traveled around in luxurious designer fashions, furs and lavish jewels; she was infatuated w/ Hollywood. Reigning movie queen Lana Turner saw Evita adopt her look and hair styles---and was alarmed when her jewelry was confiscated so that Evita could get it copied.

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Mrs O At Oscars--a "Creepy South American totalitarian-lite vibe." Did she really belong there?

NYPost quotes Walter Kirn of the liberal journal, The New Republic: seeing Mrs O preening before Hollywood, lavishly gowned, replete with jewels, and, of all things, military guards, was a "Creepy South American totalitarian-lite vibe...."

NY Post opined: "Even President Ronald Reagan never busted in live on the Oscars, and Reagan was an actual movie star, academy member, and former president of the Screen Actors Guild. (Reagan taped a non-self-aggrandizing “enjoy the show” welcome for the March 30, 1981, Oscars — which had to be delayed because he was shot that very day.)" (EXCERPT--NYP Oscar Review 2/26)

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THE PARA-MILITARY OBAMA DEMOCRATS ARE ON THE MARCH Obama campaigned on the "need" for a strong tax-funded civilian para-military force......b/c he needs Peronista-like military strongmen to advance his secret anti-American agenda.

23 posted on 03/04/2013 6:25:40 AM PST by Liz
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To: GeronL

aside - your graphic is missing the old man with the shotgun.


24 posted on 03/04/2013 6:26:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Liz

I wonder how many body bags they have in the warehouse.


25 posted on 03/04/2013 6:26:33 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: MrB

lol. just something I found on the internet


26 posted on 03/04/2013 6:29:30 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Rappini

Good question-—that would tell the tale, as well.


27 posted on 03/04/2013 6:29:45 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Don’t know if true but heard on the inter-web;
Fill mason jars with ammonia, throw at ventilation intakes. There is no way to filter out ammonia. Occupants will exit vehicle, act on threat.


28 posted on 03/04/2013 6:30:41 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: Liz

We have to find out how many body bags they have in the warehouse.


29 posted on 03/04/2013 6:33:38 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: Chode

Can anyone imagine these being manned by the sloven likes of TSA? Bravery isn’t exactly a word that comes to my mind.

Nobama may indeed be trying to build his Brown Shirt security force, but the way I see it is these “brown shirts” will rapidly go brown pants when SHTF, not to mention what percentage of all this DHS stuff will end up at a pawn shop in Deetroit.


30 posted on 03/04/2013 6:33:38 AM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: Liz

Need to pass a law quickly that drones can only be used on southern border of US.


31 posted on 03/04/2013 6:34:48 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: GeronL

Again, obviously a man IN HIS OWN HOME, in a defensive posture.

The training is to shoot him "without hesitation".

32 posted on 03/04/2013 6:34:48 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: stickywillie
...please enlighten me on how easy it has been to explain away the 1.6 billion rounds.

I did the math with some estimates on holding some in reserve, using some for routine proficiency training of agents over the next 5 years. (based on estimates of # agents with firearms). It works out but...

As others pointed out to me, my estimate of 100 to 200 rounds per agent per month is probably very high. Sheesh. That means I'm far better trained and practiced with my firearms than they are. If the numbers others quoted me are real, then I am at least as proficient/familiar as they are. (though I do have this tendency to push left with the 9mm when shooting right handed, I think it's incurable, though less pronounced during rapid-fire drills)

The other problem with this "explanation" is that these are all hollow points. Sheesh! I train with cheap FMJ (but no more Tul Ammo!) where the JHP the DHS is buying is 3x to 4x the cost of FMJ.

Yeah, individually, if you want to strain credulity a little, you can explain away many of the moves by hussein, DHS, and others. Taken collectively though, they are very, very ominous. Will future generations criticize us for being so blind right now? I don't know, but I'm starting to worry.

33 posted on 03/04/2013 6:35:32 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Liz

The standing army our Founders feared: militarized police agencies.


34 posted on 03/04/2013 6:37:06 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: PGR88

Exactly.


35 posted on 03/04/2013 6:38:13 AM PST by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Think about it. Someone has to get out to hook on to it.


36 posted on 03/04/2013 6:38:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: ThunderSleeps
ain't that the truth...
37 posted on 03/04/2013 6:38:40 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Liz

This is all super creepy. But these are not tanks, they are “Armored Cars”. When the original author called them tanks it makes us look like goof-balls. But no doubt these are being made to use on unruly american citizens.


38 posted on 03/04/2013 6:39:00 AM PST by Lockbar (Quality Factory Loaded Ammunition ------- The New Gold)
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To: All
And the beat goes on----ammo stockpiles, drones, tanks, all of your web activity databased in DC forever...to be used against you.

Dictator Ohaha's using govt authority and tax dollars to turn the DHS and other government agencies into domestic military forces.

What's next--- released criminal illegals in camo patrolling the streets w/ shoulder holsters and ammo clips? Checkpoints at state borders?

39 posted on 03/04/2013 6:39:43 AM PST by Liz
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To: GeronL


40 posted on 03/04/2013 6:40:10 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; aMorePerfectUnion; Godzilla; fishtank; ...

Ping


41 posted on 03/04/2013 6:40:10 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Thanks Mitt.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
OK, lets assume you caught it. Now what? Since every store and building has surveillance cameras, and there will be govt drones hovering about, how do you plan to create an obstruction and flood the grass without being recognized?

I'm going to respectfully decline to reveal that part of the plan - at this time. But for background, it helps to have an understanding of how facial recognition software works, and to have professionally studied counter-insurgency and counter-IED tactics. If you know what they're going to do, and how...

42 posted on 03/04/2013 6:40:32 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Lockbar

If they can call an AR-15 an “assault rifle” for emotional effect,

we damn sure can call these things “tanks”.

Nothing a citizen can legally posess can penetrate the armor, so it might as well be a “tank”.


43 posted on 03/04/2013 6:41:12 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PGR88

This is W’s fault


44 posted on 03/04/2013 6:42:31 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave ofo attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Lockbar
.......no doubt these are being made to use on unruly american citizens.....

No matter what they're labeled.

45 posted on 03/04/2013 6:42:48 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Moochie is being groomed to be the RAT Candidate in 2016. She is going to be getting more and more media face time. Put money on it.


46 posted on 03/04/2013 6:42:56 AM PST by Lockbar (Quality Factory Loaded Ammunition ------- The New Gold)
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To: Rappini
for their own maybe, but they will burn ours...
47 posted on 03/04/2013 6:44:11 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MrB

Is the Barrett in 50bmg off limits to citizens without class 3?


48 posted on 03/04/2013 6:44:11 AM PST by MachIV
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To: Rappini
We have to find out how many body bags they have in the warehouse.

Or backhoes.

49 posted on 03/04/2013 6:44:32 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: MachIV

I feel like we’re in the “game of questions”...

Will the BMG penetrate these things?


50 posted on 03/04/2013 6:45:58 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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