Posted on 03/05/2013 4:31:55 PM PST by neverdem
.357 Sig is NOT a revolver load.
Unless they have changed the process:
a. Federal Government funding requirements are based on a 5 year sliding projection, i.e., updated every year so that there is a continuing 5-year funding requirement ongoing for each Federal entity that needs funding.
b. Funds types requested are designated as single-year funds or multi-year funds, depending upon the type of contractual approach that is to be used to acquire the items and/or services needed. Some contracts will require the use of both single-year and multi-year funds over the life of the contract. And contract options may result in further single- and/or multi-year funds as the contract continues and the five-year sliding budget process continue.
c. Expenditure of funds must be accomplished within the time prescribed by the type of funds identified for the specific contract, i.e., single year funds must be expended within a specified single year of the contract, etc. If not expended as designated by funds type, they are considered "lost" to the Federal agency that requested them for use.
d. However, a very useful thing to know if you are a Headquarters funds manager and/or an individual who needs the funds but legitimate problems kept you from contractually expending them is:
1. Funds are fungible, and Congress can approve waivers to the "use it or lose it" rules. That's why a good Logistics Manager stays tightly connected with the Funds Manager, and knows all the lead times required to submit requests for such waivers.
2. It is also possible for the "soon to be lost" funds from one Federal project to be given to another project. This opportunity will usually occur very close to the end of the fiscal year, and requires that a Logistics Manager and his/her associated Funds Manager be aware of funds that are going to be lost, and have all the the justifications, contractual documents, etc. prepared and ready to submit in time to acquire the funds and actually get them on contract, resulting in them being considered "spent" by the end of the fiscal year, and thus not lost (except of course to the original requesting agency).
3. Any "lost" funds are not really lost, they just get moved into designated prior year "pots" of money by the Federal bean-counters. If I remember correctly, it was possible to (with sufficient justification and the right friends in high places) acquire prior year funds as old as 7 years.
What I have described is just the tip of the complexity of the Federal Fiscal Year/Budgetary process. A process that makes it almost impossible for anyone outside the game (and for most all inside the game) to effectively understand and track the vast quantities of tax-payer funds which flow into, and are consumed by, the Federal Government.
Didn't mean to beat you over the head with info, just wanted to point out that it's a complex operation going on and it's been going on for a very long time.
Is it true or isn't it. If it's true, it's not a myth. If it's false then it is a myth.
The next step, attributing motives and plans, is always tricky. I really doubt there's some "plan" thought out to turn the guns on the American people. But that's really beside the point.
You aren't going to find some timetable for a government take-over, but people are right to worry about the stockpiling of bullets and the mindset that it implies.
Sometimes the conspiracy people do manage to get something right, almost in spite of themselves. If this is one of those times, do the decent thing and give them credit for bringing the story to light.
I guess being a G-man is like being a major league baseball player.
A major leaguer - he only uses brand new, brillant white baseballs out of a freshly open box for practice.
A G-man - no wadcutters for him to pratice with at the range - only brand new, really expensive hollow point bullets that tend to make a huge mess down range when the fly apart like little tiny razor blades.
No sir, no ammo specifically made for target practice for him. Only hollow points.
This idget who wrote the article doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
If the DHS was stocking up on wadcutters, I’d say their wasteful, but I’d say those boys like to get their range time in. I wouldn’t use wadcutters, however, to kill Americans. I’d use hollow points.
Like I said... you guessed. You have no idea how many armed agents DHS has, therefore there is no known denominator for the 1,600,000,000 bullets DHS thinks they might need over the next few years.
Additionally, you have no idea how many bullets they had stockpiled prior to this order.
You don’t have data. You have faith in the men who hold the power in this country. I cannot conceive of anything more illogical.
It’s gotten to the point where the word “conspiracy” has no meaning anymore. Which is fantastic news if you’re a conspirator.
The devil’s greatest trick was convincing the world he doesn’t exist.
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We are being painted into a corner...
I appreciate your extra work on the data. I worked for a major govy contractor for years, but that ended 20 years ago, so things may have changed, a little. At that time it was what I said. And those who did not use up their self-generated budget, were penalized by getting less the following year. Thanks again.
And the portable bullet resistant checkpoints designed to interdict road traffic.
This is disinformation from a media organization that started to go rogue and has always demonstrated a perverted bias against the 2nd Amendment and gun owners in general since the days of William Buckley -- himself an ANTIGUN RINO.
Try the US Department of Justice official website. They made a count of armed federal agents in civilian Agencies and that count is openly published on their website. This includes FBI, Secret Service, US Marshals, Forestry Service, Department of Education (?!), the Social Security Administration (??!!!) and about 25 more Agencies.
The base total is a larger number than you might think. Of course the data was from 2008. Extrapolate to 2013, accounting for expanded employee population in all Agencies, and you get a current estimate from 200,000 to 220,000 armed federal agents.
If you found something that suggests that as many as 220,000 of DHS’ 240,000 employees are armed agents, post the link.
Your point is well taken. See this:
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/nosearch/feds_arrests_guns.pdf
This is a reasonable baseline for estimating the current number of armed Federal Agents.
This survey was done in 2008 and has not been updated since although Agency population has increased.
The count includes all known armed agents in 73 civilian Federal Agencies - not just "Department of Homeland Security". It excludes Department of Defense.
DHS is supposed to oversee the other Agencies and coordinate their activities.
The National Review can always be counted on for some inane, naive and totally feckless analysis of every concern.
>> “The author is trying to use rational arguments against a conspiracy theory.” <<
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I saw nothing rational in the article; it was all misdirection, assumption, and outright falsehood. (typical National Review puke)
Conspiracies are rarely theory; its the only way that government knows how to do business.
Go back to your nap; we’ll wake you when your cue is coming up.
What happened?
I really wanted a response to my post# 120 as you seemed to think yourself an expert.
You wake me? I can’t hear high-pitched voices with lisps.
Has Mensa contacted you yet?
>> “It was supposed to provide .357 magnum performance in an auto-loading pistol” <<
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But it doesn’t.
The gun lacks the mass of the revolver, so is less accurate, especially when firing multiple shots.
>> “ I can’t hear high-pitched voices with lisps.” <<
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Good! - Then you won’t wake yourself up when you talk in your sleep.
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