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The secret reason the GOP is divided
FoxNews ^ | March 14, 2013 | Juan Williams

Posted on 03/15/2013 6:12:51 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

What if the contest over the future of the GOP is not between Tea Party ideologues and moderate establishment-types?

What if the real contest is between Republicans who care about winning elections and profiteers who care about making consulting fees off the political process?

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: consultants; elections; secret

1 posted on 03/15/2013 6:12:51 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
The secret reason the GOP is divided

Secret, my A$$...very obvious...no leadership.

2 posted on 03/15/2013 6:15:15 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/14/Caddell-Blows-the-Lid-Off-CPAC-With-Blistering-Attack-on-Racketeering-Republican-Consultants


3 posted on 03/15/2013 6:16:17 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
the real contest

To put it another way, I think the real issue is between those that put the Party first and those that put America first.

4 posted on 03/15/2013 6:16:32 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

At the Federal level we have a one party system. The state level politics looks a little more promising, maybe some hope there...


5 posted on 03/15/2013 6:18:07 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yes, posted this because it either draws a parallel to (or perhaps Juan is plagiarizing) Caddell’s argument.


6 posted on 03/15/2013 6:18:29 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Juan is an idiot.

Don’t know why FOX hired him, except he is black. And they felt sorry for him after NPR threw him under the bus.


7 posted on 03/15/2013 6:18:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

There are Republican Committees within the House of Representatives and the Senate who make the decision on who is most electable, then suggest to the campaigns which consultants would serve the candidates best.

This is political cronyism of the worst sort.

Who in Hell wants those cretins in the Republican establishment deciding who should represent us in Congress? Their only reason for doing this is to maintain themselves in power.


8 posted on 03/15/2013 6:19:51 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I found that interesting as well that Juan and Pat both are writing about this.


9 posted on 03/15/2013 6:21:06 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Republicans who care about winning elections and profiteers who care about making consulting fees off the political process?

Unfortunately for the GOP it hasn't been about ideology and beliefs for a long time. Those who profess that they are interested in "winning elections" are chameleons who go which ever way they think the wind blows. The trouble is, is that they don't even fool enough weak minded dims to win on a consistent basis. Others, who leech off consulting fees (karl rove comes to mind) lack any sort of patriotism - they don't care what is happening to the Country, only that they receive a fat paycheck.

That is why Rand Paul and Ted Cruz have struck such a responsive note with the public. They are the first ones in a long, long time that have put principles first and have had the courage to stand up and defend them!

10 posted on 03/15/2013 6:22:43 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: Texas Fossil
I think the real reason Fox hired him was the hopes of favorable press from the establishment.
11 posted on 03/15/2013 6:23:06 AM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
It's been pretty obvious for a long time.

The liberals have enough baggage to bring them down but someone has to lead the attack. There is nothing to be gained from not rocking the boat.

Allen West wasn't pushed out of office by democrats, he was shot down by RINOS. Ted Cruz will be next, if we let it happen.

Anyone afraid to defend The Constitution is not a Republican.

12 posted on 03/15/2013 6:24:38 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Why is ideology a dirty word? Without an intellectual basis politicians are just mercenaries.


13 posted on 03/15/2013 6:32:38 AM PDT by DManA
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To: GoldenPup
Its not only leadership that's missing.

One reason is the public rectal exam of “opposition research” by the power at any cost dems, which has been gleefully adopted by the GOPe.

There are many capable conservatives who do not wish to be forced to bend over and grab their knees on TV. Most truly intelligent conservative who has any business experience is smart to stay away from national politics.

My Senator, Ted Cruz as well as Rand Paul and Marco Rubio are exceptions. Either they have no skeletons or are confident they can defend their life since one day old. Each of these were raised by parents who experienced harsh political adversity like Castro, who taught their sons to be be strong and speak their minds with bravery and do the right things in spite of the tsunami of smears and persecution bound their way.

14 posted on 03/15/2013 6:42:04 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
the real contest is between Republicans who care about winning elections and profiteers who care about making consulting fees off the political process?

Right. 'Cause Democrats NEVER try to make a buck off the system.

15 posted on 03/15/2013 6:43:04 AM PDT by Poison Pill (Take your silver lining and SHOVE IT!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

No shit and this isn’t news...


16 posted on 03/15/2013 6:47:51 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
What if the real contest is between Republicans who care about winning elections and profiteers who care about making consulting fees off the political process?

Kind of a silly notion.

Losing elections is not a viable business strategy for a consultant.

17 posted on 03/15/2013 6:49:38 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I find it interesting that Juan is not crediting or sourcing Caddell. He was bringing this message to the GOP DURING THE CAMPAIGN.


18 posted on 03/15/2013 6:51:21 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Sherman Logan

What I’ve seen lately, especially after Rand’s fillibuster -

it’s a divide between those who implicitly trust government
and those who are inherently suspicious of government power.


19 posted on 03/15/2013 6:52:58 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 11th Commandment

He certainly was sounding the siren...and it fell on deaf ears.


20 posted on 03/15/2013 6:54:15 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Sherman Logan
Losing elections is not a viable business strategy for a consultant.

Seems to be working out pretty well for Steve Schmidt...
21 posted on 03/15/2013 6:55:11 AM PDT by Velvet_Jones
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
>>> .... real contest is between Republicans who care about winning elections and profiteers who care about making consulting fees off the political process

Firstly, Juan makes no sense (but we knew he's an idiot already).

Second, ‘consultants’ help republicans ‘win elections’, they are on the same side.

Third, Juan implied ‘Tea Party’ type don't care about winning elections, because they have never gotten any of their candidates cross the finish lines. (yeah, sure, whatev!)

22 posted on 03/15/2013 6:56:48 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

FO NPR. Fag ...


23 posted on 03/15/2013 7:17:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: GoldenPup

Agree!


24 posted on 03/15/2013 7:19:30 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: SatinDoll

Very good points. But its the no names, behind the scenes “consultants” that drive the bus! More and more it seems Rs..especially the Senators just follow a script!

I hope folks are calling and emailing!


25 posted on 03/15/2013 7:21:49 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Yeah, I've been saying this for years. Conservatives have allowed the GOP to be hijacked by a bunch of greedy old men who couldn't be trusted to run a kennel. It reminds me of contemporary "Christianity" and how much their/our/my leaders have similarly lost sight of what they're supposed to be doing.
26 posted on 03/15/2013 7:29:38 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Velvet_Jones; Sherman Logan

Steve Schmidt, Stuart Stevens, Ed Rollins, Matt Rhoades, Karl Rove, on and on.

You run your candidate as a moderate and when he loses you blame the right wing.

The next election comes and you run your candidate as a moderate....


27 posted on 03/15/2013 7:30:59 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Do you mean the pimps of the election industry, including Affirmative Action Monument Juan Williams?


28 posted on 03/15/2013 7:59:33 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: central_va

once the state pols go federal they will turn on you in a heartbeat.


29 posted on 03/15/2013 8:03:47 AM PDT by delapaz
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Thanks for posting this.


30 posted on 03/15/2013 8:05:06 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: rrrod

The no names are internation banking interests. They have lots of money and buy influence.

I experienced a “eureka!” moment after viewing the DVD The Money Masters, as it explained how international financiers have been controlling our government since shortly after the end of the Civil War.

They own our politicians - all of them, except for the very new ones, such as Rep.Ted Cruz and Sen.Rand Paul.


31 posted on 03/15/2013 8:29:27 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Losing elections is not a viable business strategy for a consultant.”

True, but it is if you are getting paid big bucks by someone else to lose the election.


32 posted on 03/15/2013 8:36:05 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

True, but my point is that you get hired for the next election because you win, not lose. Very few people run around proudly touting their losing record as a way of getting new business.

I should probably have said, “long-term business strategy” to make my thought clear.


33 posted on 03/15/2013 8:43:12 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Under normal, competitive political environments what you said would be correct.

We no longer have true competition between Democrats and Republicans.


34 posted on 03/15/2013 8:56:11 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: X-spurt
... Ted Cruz as well as Rand Paul and Marco Rubio are exceptions...

Agree, but on the other hand, we have the horse's ass, old-guard, status quo, has-beens like McCain and Graham who try to knock down the new guys at every turn. Sad.

35 posted on 03/15/2013 8:58:15 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Consultants have used a divide and conquer strategy in the republican party for at least the last thirty years.


36 posted on 03/15/2013 9:38:34 AM PDT by Paraclete
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To: SatinDoll

old, crusty, and mouldy


37 posted on 03/15/2013 10:48:35 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Second, ‘consultants’ help republicans ‘win elections’, they are on the same side.

Did you sleep right through the elections of 2012, 2008, 2006, 1998, 1996, 1992 ... etc, etc?

38 posted on 03/15/2013 10:59:59 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

My bad, I should have said

“Consultants attempted to help .....” but they are still on the same side.


39 posted on 03/15/2013 11:07:00 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: GoldenPup

The old GOPe Guard will not beat the likes of Cruz.
Nor any old libitch from SF.


40 posted on 03/15/2013 2:24:19 PM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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