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Two Sides of Rand Paul: Not a wacko, but at times off-base.
National Review ^ | 03/16/2013 | Andrew McCarthy

Posted on 03/16/2013 11:04:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/16/2013 11:04:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If Rand Paul’s off base, it’s the citizen’s of this country that must change. Any doubt was washed away when the election was gifted to Zero by the RINO’s and NWO gang.


2 posted on 03/16/2013 11:23:16 AM PDT by STD ( Intellectuals, they are a wrecking crew, dismantling civilization)
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To: SeekAndFind

US foreign policy is dictated by new world order through the CFR.

Personally, I resent our nation and our military being their plaything for the past century.

When they come clean about every new world order operation, every CIA operation, and they turn the nation back over to the people, then I’ll start thinking about what truly American interests there are around the world. Right now, it’s what new world order interests there are around the world that US foreign policy is actually concerned with, and it amounts to an endless stream of manipulation. Higher taxes, more control, more agitation and revolution, more economic troubles, more big business monopoly profits, more small business and working schmucks getting hammered, more rejection of the God of the Bible.

American business leaders and government leaders need to wake up and smell the coffee, i.e., the evil of what they are doing, and mend the error of their ways, or they need to be replaced by those who are not corrupted by the beast of new world order, noted for its slavery (physical, as well as to sin and debt), that was raised up against us.

Individual Americans need to get right with God and start owning and operating businesses. That’s the eventual path the power - real Americans have to be “in the driver’s seat” instead of the globalist new world order minions that are in power now.


3 posted on 03/16/2013 11:26:29 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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“Bingo: It has been a while since Republicans were led by a Reagan — by someone who looks totalitarianism in the eye and calls it what it is. You don’t hear today’s GOP saying of the Muslim Brotherhood and its sharia-supremacist allies, “We win, they lose.” Today’s GOP is more likely to tell the Muslim Brotherhood, “We’re here to partner with you.” Today’s GOP looks at ideologues who promise to conquer the West and sees not an “evil empire” but a “Religion of Peace.” Yes, it was Obama who opted to arm and fund the Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt — where a new sharia constitution has been imposed, women are thus reduced to a lower caste, and minority Christians are systematically persecuted. But it was Republicans who voted decisively to approve these measures.

To his great credit, Senator Paul tried to stop our government’s transfer of F-16 aircraft and Abrams tanks to Egypt. He certainly has that half of the equation right. At Heritage, he observed that while “the war is not with Islam but with a radical element of Islam — the problem is that this element is no small minority but a vibrant, often mainstream, vocal and numerous minority.” I’d say “minority” is hopeful — at least in the Middle East, where, as Paul further noted, the enemy ideology grips “whole countries, such as Saudi Arabia.” Islamic-supremacism — what he called “radical Islam” — is, as he described, “no fleeting fad but a relentless force.” To empower Islamic supremacists is a grave mistake.”

You can lay all this on Grover Norquist and spineless Republicans that are terrified of being primaried. The sooner that Republicans tell Norky to GFY, the better off the Republicans will be.


4 posted on 03/16/2013 11:43:23 AM PDT by wrcase
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“Americans are clearly not pining for our troops to come home from Europe, Japan, Korea, the Persian Gulf, or other locations where their presence assures the peace through strength on which our prosperity depends.”

This is wrong. Our forces are there propping up other economies. They don’t want us to leave because they’ll lose the dollars that are spent there. As far as I’m concerned, we should bring our guys home & tell these countries it’s time to spend more on their own military to assure the peace.


5 posted on 03/16/2013 12:06:36 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: SeekAndFind
Americans are clearly not pining for our troops to come home from Europe, Japan, Korea, the Persian Gulf, or other locations where their presence assures the peace through strength on which our prosperity depends.

Is McCarthy talking about continuing a cold war based economy to eternity? Perpetual war for perpetual peace?
A strong defense is necessary, of course, but the US military is in something like 140 countries (AFAIK). Wasn't something said about "entangling alliances" a while back?

6 posted on 03/16/2013 12:09:39 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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If Rand Paul’s off base, it’s the citizen’s of this country that must change. Any doubt was washed away when the election was gifted to Zero by the RINO’s and NWO gang.

Only if you think that granting Amnesty to 2 million Illegal Aliens every year is a great idea.

This is a suicide plan for the GOP and America(re: Automatically giving the electoral advantage to the Democrats), and it's Rand Pauls great idea for handling the Illegal Alien problem.
7 posted on 03/16/2013 12:14:12 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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“You can lay all this on Grover Norquist and spineless Republicans that are terrified of being primaried. The sooner that Republicans tell Norky to GFY, the better off the Republicans will be.”

AMEN!

Also, after Paul’s filibuster, Van Jones made a comment about liking something in his speech. Many here on FR chose to interpret that to mean Jones was ‘endorsing’ Rand Paul...not hardly!

Jones does plenty of his liberal disagreement with Paul here:http://www.ijreview.com/2013/03/41926-15-most-absurd-or-dishonest-tweets-from-mainstream-media-figures//#post-slideshow2

He even says Paul would stand with the KKK. Hardly an endorsement!


8 posted on 03/16/2013 12:21:52 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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“Only if you think that granting Amnesty to 2 million Illegal Aliens every year is a great idea.

This is a suicide plan for the GOP and America(re: Automatically giving the electoral advantage to the Democrats), and it’s Rand Pauls great idea for handling the Illegal Alien problem.”

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There you go again. YOU KNOW you are being dishonest about this. He would legalize 2 million per year INSTEAD of ALL of them, like your idol Sarah Palin and so many others have advocated. Stop lying, and using the tactics of the left, it doesn’t help your candidate. Ted Cruz is better than that and you insult him with your twisting of facts. He stood up for Rand Paul!

“After ensuring border security, then I would normalize the status of the 11 million undocumented citizens so they can join the workforce and pay taxes. I would normalize them at a rate of about 2 million per year. I would start with Dream Act kids, children brought here illegally as minors. Normalization would get them a temporary Visa but would not put them ahead of anyone already waiting to enter the country. These undocumented persons would now be documented but they would still have to wait in line like everyone else. But their path to permanent legal status would be no faster than those currently waiting in line.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/8/sen-rand-paul-trust-verify-immigration-reform/#ixzz2NjTatk3M


9 posted on 03/16/2013 12:29:35 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rand Paul: Not a wacko, but at times off-base.

I'll take Rand over our modern day Nero any day.

He compares favorably with the current White House resident who is a full time narcisstic, schizophrenic, megalomaniac with severe delusions of grandeur whose grasp of reality is critically and almost totally impaired by a near terminal case of false self esteem.

And those are his good points.


10 posted on 03/16/2013 1:34:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I stand with Rand.


11 posted on 03/16/2013 1:45:19 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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There you go again. YOU KNOW you are being dishonest about this. He would legalize 2 million per year INSTEAD of ALL of them, like your idol Sarah Palin and so many others have advocated. Stop lying, and using the tactics of the left, it doesn’t help your candidate. Ted Cruz is better than that and you insult him with your twisting of facts. He stood up for Rand Paul!

AuntB, do you really think it will stop with Normalization?

Are you really that gullible?

All Rand Paul has done, both with this normalization crap, and his statements of taking softer stances on the Social Issues and removing marriage from the tax code, IS SIGNAL DEFEAT!

He is moving the ball down the field in the direction of the LEFT'S GOAL POST!

That's not leadership, that's compromising your core values, IF YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE, to gain election.
12 posted on 03/16/2013 3:23:48 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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That's not leadership, that's compromising your core values, IF YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE, to gain election.

That goes double if you really are a Christian, especially where the gay agenda is concerned.
13 posted on 03/16/2013 3:25:27 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rand Paul shows more common sense than any other possible contender in 2016. But that does not mean he can win nomination. If common sense was important to Americans, no way in hell Obama should have won 2nd term.


14 posted on 03/16/2013 4:05:51 PM PDT by entropy12 (The republic is doomed cuz people have figured out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have been slowly backing away from the National Review, I am a subscriber and their hawk stance on everything. I like Paul and his strong defense libertarianism.


15 posted on 03/16/2013 4:18:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Is McCarthy talking about continuing a cold war based economy to eternity? Perpetual war for perpetual peace?

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Yes he is, this is one of the reasons I am backing away from NR. This insane police of the world forgin policy needs to end. Strong defense and strong civil defense is the best use of our military.


16 posted on 03/16/2013 4:21:09 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: SoConPubbie

All Rand Paul has done, both with this normalization crap, and his statements of taking softer stances on the Social Issues and removing marriage from the tax code, IS SIGNAL DEFEAT!

He is moving the ball down the field in the direction of the LEFT’S GOAL POST!

That’s not leadership, that’s compromising your core values, IF YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE, to gain election.

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No he is being a libertarian, and libertarians believe in privacy and leaveing people to be. lThat is a conservative value as far as I am concerned.


17 posted on 03/16/2013 4:23:52 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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No he is being a libertarian, and libertarians believe in privacy and leaveing people to be. lThat is a conservative value as far as I am concerned.

Conservatives, also believe in the rule of law, and morality.

By "Normalizing" or providing a de-facto Amnesty, he is violating the principle of rule of law.

By signaling surrender on the Gay Agenda, he violating the conservative principle of fighting against the Homosexual agenda.
18 posted on 03/16/2013 6:50:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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19 posted on 03/16/2013 8:15:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Remember when Republicans used to say “LETS GET OUT OF THE U.N”? ...


20 posted on 03/17/2013 3:31:33 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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