Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg
I was just thinking of a way to ‘grade’ these idiots who will probably be running in 2016.
Due to the dumbing down of everything, it would have to be a PASS or FAIL system.
Which ones do you give a FAIL to on a given issue?
Which ones do you give a PASS to on a given issue?
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I have gotten to the point that I just don’t know.
I used to think the best were from the governors ranks, but 2012 and since has many Pubbie governors folding faster than the Washington Pubbies on Obamacare, etc ...
It is getting harder and harder to distinguish Pubbies from the Dems, so-called conservatives from the progressives.
It is disappointing to hear Paul promote this plan. I just don’t understand why he believes it will work and not further destroy the US.
I had no idea that legal immigration was so high. Thanks for that info.
Of course, we know that will never happen, because too much money changes hands just to keep the whole thing going. So, I have an idea. The mexicans have announced that their expropriating their state run oil company PEMEX. I say that US companies are allowed to take over all of PEMEX’s assets as repayment for having to support 1/3 of the mexican population for who knows how long. Otherwise, we ship back every single illegal, and let the mexican government have to deal with them for a change.
http://www.ask.com/wiki/Operation_Wetback?o=2801&qsrc=999
Operation Wetback in action
The effort began in California and Arizona in 1954 and coordinated 1,075 Border Patrol agents, along with state and local police agencies. Tactics employed included going house to house in Mexican-American neighborhoods and citizenship checks during standard traffic stops.
Some 750 agents targeted agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions per day. By the end of July, over 50,000 illegal aliens were caught in the two states. An estimated 488,000 illegal aliens are believed to have left voluntarily, for fear of being apprehended. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and the INS estimated that 500,000 to 700,000 had left Texas of their own accord. To discourage illicit re-entry, buses and trains took many deportees deep within Mexican territory before releasing them.
Some say we can't deport them all, I say remember Ike!!
Then, watching the Fed suing Arizona for doing the Fed's Constitutionally mandated job of enforcing an international border has been too much to stomach, because of the reality of what that means.
The mental state that has taken over so much of US needs to somehow be countered or we go down.
Perhaps Dr. Paul's speech is designed to lower the resistance some of US have to common sense and the realities of being a careless falling soooper power in a dangerous world.
One has to be careful waking up a sleeping morning after alcoholic. Careful with those bright lights and noise, go slow, be nice, and maybe they'll see things more clearly once they wake up.
The big problem here is that the basis for his reasoning, one of the first things he mentions, is that Hispanics have common ground with Republicans on social and economic issues but are driven away over the stance on immigration.
That simply isn’t true. The overwhelming issue that had Hispanics voting for Dems in 2012 was their support for ObamaCare. That IS a social/economic issue, one that represents a chasm between the GOP and Hispanics.
Moving positions on immigration won’t change that, but it will create more voters who are supportive of Dems on a whole host of other issues.
I like what Rand Paul has been doing on most fronts, but a speech by a Sinator that requires i first 'press one for English' is NOT good...
i suffered through about half of it, and can only say that my grandfathers immigrants, and coountry are NOT what todays immigrants and country are...
*IF* there was a desire by either to assimilate and work for each other, his points would be valid...
sadly, today, "WE the People" borrow money from abroad to advertise our foodstamp program to people in other countries, and those countries actively work to unload their third world population into our gravy train, en masse, to send all those *free* dollars back 'home' to their third world $h!thole$...
who are we kidding ??? my bet is that most could easily obtain papers if they really wanted to do so...removing the stick only emboldens the eating of the carrots from the garden...
and what ive scribbled here is only a slice of the underlying issues with massive invasion of foreign peoples/interests...
but hey, if we're still allowing muzzies from goatpackerabiastan to set up shop and build weapons caches and traing facilities, whats the harm in 20-40 million non English speaking dirt farmers...
that $50/head lettuce aint gonna pick itself...
First Rand called Israel an ally and now this!!!!
The Paulista goose steppers gotta be going wild lol
SCOTUS has determined citizenship issues almost since the inception of the Republic. Here are just a few cases:
United States v. Wong Kim Ark
Lynch v. Clarke,
Dred Scott v. Sandford
Afroyim v. Rusk.
Calling hispanics brought here as little kids say 5 and raised here getting a US public school diploma (maybe even a college degree) criminals for ‘being illegal’ is a great way to get more Wise Latino’s on the court. It looks like putting on a white hood demanding they wear gold stars for being 'illegal'.
Spouting this leftist propaganda and hyperbole doesn't make your argument. I have heard similar comparisons with mass deportation and the Holocaust.
We have the Rule of Law in this country. If a parent is an illegal alien and brings in his/her children regardless of whether the child is 1 month old or 17 years old, they are an illegal alien and are subject to deportation along with their parents. In fact, even a child born to an illegal alien in the US and thus a citizen, can be deported along with the parent unless the parent finds a suitable guardian for the child.
There is not a nation on earth that does not have immigration laws and limits on who can enter their country. The use of the "children" is just some more leftist crap to get a blanket amnesty. Obama has already implemented a backdoor amnesty for the Dreamers that will allow 1.8 million to gain legal status up to the age of 30.
Conferring rights and privileges upon illegal aliens has a corrosive effect on the Rule of Law, the very foundation of our Republic. It is also a slap in the face to legal immigrants who have followed the rules and obeyed the laws. There are millions of intending legal immigrants waiting overseas to enter this country legally--many of whom are children.
Wait till illegals vote in GOP primaries ...
There are millions of legal immigrants who will vote two to one for the Dems. Each year we bring in 1.2 million legal immigrants, most of whom will vote Dem.
Hispanic isnt a race...geeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
You can tell that these guys never get out of DC. What they keep talking about in their speeches is wishful thinking.
The illegals in our neck of the woods.....all undereducated and make very little money. Their American born kids all qualify for cash, food stamps, Medical, WIC, and freen breakfast/lunch programs. Because they have American born children the whole family qualifies for Section 8.
These stupid politicians need to get out of DC and into the real world once in awhile.
Well, since the Primary, I have seen Libertarians flowing out of the cracks here like a flooding trailer house getting fumigated... trying to convince us Conservatives that they are more Conservative than we are, and we need to ‘go with the flow’. I say to the Libertarians, go to a Libertarian site and promote your socialist crap.
Well if your fantasy is mass deportation, which even the border hawk Romney wouldnt defend, then you deserve it.
But if they are bringing up mass deportation which no one elected suggests as a straw man for amnesty, that is different and changing the subject.
As I said, kids trafficed to here and raised here with the support of the government as the courts now entitle them to (the kids) public school and then they get that degree, are seen as victims and they will aways be seen as such. Romney learned that the hard way.
Calling those ones trafficed here as kids and raised here criminals is just seen as demanding they where a sign labeled ‘illegal’ on their clothes as a gold star.
Heck, dont the Muslims sentence raped wimmin to beatings for fornication? I bet that lowers the rapes, or reported ones anyway.
Romney used immigration to destroy Perry then they came out to vote to make sure he lost. If Romney won on that stand then it could be a different game.
They don’t call it “the Reconquista” for nuthin’ !!
What bull $h#t! Typical pubbie turncoat....anything for a vote.
The proponents of amnesty are wont to create the false choice between a blanket amnesty and mass deportation of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. In reality, we have other choices and alternatives that don’t reward people who have broken our laws with the right to stay and work here and an eventual path to citizenship. The 12 to 20 million illegal aliens did not enter this country overnight and they will not leave overnight. Attrition through enforcement works. We have empirical data from Georgia, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Arizona proving that it does. Romney was right on self-deportation--he just used some in-artful terms.
As I said, kids trafficed to here and raised here with the support of the government as the courts now entitle them to (the kids) public school and then they get that degree, are seen as victims and they will aways be seen as such. Romney learned that the hard way.
Those who buy the leftist framing of the issue, yes. The reality is that they are the lucky ones who had the privilege of having access to our schools and medical facilities. Plyler versus Doe should be revisited. If you read the decision, you will find it was based on costs to the school district, i.e., they were minimal. Things have changed with one out of ten is country being the child of an illegal alien, either brought here or born here. The costs are enormous. Here in Fairfax County, VA, we pay $104 million a year just in ESOL costs for 31,000 foreign language students out of 181,000 students in the system. The number of ESOL students grew by a third in just the past year.
Calling those ones trafficed here as kids and raised here criminals is just seen as demanding they where a sign labeled ‘illegal’ on their clothes as a gold star. Heck, dont the Muslims sentence raped wimmin to beatings for fornication? I bet that lowers the rapes, or reported ones anyway.
The legal term is unauthorized alien. The Left likes to use such terms as undocumented worker rather than illegal alien because that is "demeaning." This PC crap has to stop. When you commit a crime there are consequences. Are we supposed to call them undocumented students? Guest students? Comparing them to Holocaust victims wearing gold stars is beyond the pale.
In Muslim countries, if that is your standard, they usually kill the women thru honor killings. In fact there have been honor killings by Muslims in the US and Germany.
Romney used immigration to destroy Perry then they came out to vote to make sure he lost. If Romney won on that stand then it could be a different game.
Perry deserved to be destroyed over his stand. Romney should have been even tougher on the immigration issue. Unfortunately he toned it down due to pressure from Murdoch. Immigration can be a winning issue for Reps who know how to use it. For example, Romney should have pointed out the insanity of bringing in 1.2 million legal immigrants a year while 23 million Americans were looking for full time employment. Or pointing out the disproportionate and high use of welfare by immigrants? Or the wisdom of adding 130 million to our population over the next 40 years, 80% due to immigration and its impact on infrastructure, the environment, etc.
Well, he's about 30% right. After 50 years or so, we can hope for about 30% of the Latino vote. That's because Latinos are a multi-cultural, multi-racial group....Of which fact very few Americans ... a rapidly dumbing group ... are aware.
Like everything else in Democrat World, it's a question of cultural melanin. Those more European hispanics, whether from México or anywhere else in Mundo Hispano, will of course rapidly integrate into American society. Those who spring from largely indigenous cultures are evidently being completely co-opted into the illegitimate children, food stamp, gangs, drugs, section 8 culture of the African-Americans, unless they kill each other first. See LA.
Our beloved government has candidly recognized this their Affirmative Action Official Melanin-Based Mythology. A white Chilean, Argentine, or Díos forbid, a Spaniard from Spain ... are not even officially "Hispanics." ¡No goodies para tí, amigo! Oddly enough, a white Puerto Rican or Cuban IS an Hispanic. Got that? Penelope Cruz ain't an Hispanic. Marco(s) Rubio is. Go figure.
Once the Democrats get'em on the gravy train, they are never jumping on the GOP trolley. BTW, it is stupid to pretend to offer them more gravy.
¿No es muy interesante vivir en el país mas norte de la América Latina? ¿Sería mas interesante sobrevivir, no?
Being Texan, I know where they’re getting the wrong notion that hispanics are cultural conservatives and natural allies. More on that in a sec, but as an aside, even if that were true, WHY would the GOPE be jettisoning social conservatism as fast as they can while trying to bring in hispanics?? Hmmmmm? Makes no sense.
Where they’re getting this is from an older, more traditional-minded hispanic culture. Many of these hispanics are long-time natives to Texas. I know hispanics who have no record of who among their ancestors first entered Texas. The oldest ancestor they’re aware of was born in Texas. And those who came from Mexico but many years back, or whose recent ancestor came from there, are more traditional in their values. I know these type of hispanics and they are very real, not imaginary.
But they are a distinct minority now within the new cultural norms among much younger and less culturally traditional hispanics.
Rand has stupidly (or with malice) brought into a notion that simply is not true TODAY.
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