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HURT: We’re from the government and we’re here to learn everything about you
Washington Times ^ | March 19, 2013 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 03/20/2013 8:32:10 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

Rage over the waste and injustice of agents sent by the federal government to bang on doors of law-abiding citizens to ask probing, creepy questions is normally something that bubbles up only every 10 years. But ever since the federal government became a cancerous leviathan, the outrage is now an annual occurrence.

The first census in 1790 asked a bare minimum of questions essential for establishing congressional districts of equal populations. Despite the abhorrent practice of slavery at the time — and the counting of blacks for purposes of their fractional apportionment — the whole endeavor was aimed at fairness.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: government; invasion; privacy; survey
Spot on article about death of privacy due to the expansion of government. National Death by bureaucrat.
1 posted on 03/20/2013 8:32:11 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

The only thing I see that’s flawed in the commentary is that it speaks to the census. I think the fedgov knows pretty much everything about most of us independent of the census.


2 posted on 03/20/2013 8:38:45 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Texas Fossil
Wife and I escorted the census taker off our property a few years ago.
He had walked by a no trespassing sign and security gate.
3 posted on 03/20/2013 8:40:10 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Texas Fossil

a new line, “We’re from the government and we’re here to hurt you per President Odungo”


4 posted on 03/20/2013 8:40:20 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: nascarnation

agreed. government is terminally redundant.


5 posted on 03/20/2013 8:54:29 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Good for you.


6 posted on 03/20/2013 8:54:53 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

When I get the census form, I either don’t respond to the questions I don’t like or I answer “NOYB” (none of your business).

I haven’t been bothered by the jerks.


7 posted on 03/20/2013 8:55:23 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: Doogle

“Odungo”

Yep.

hee hee hee


8 posted on 03/20/2013 8:55:31 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: DustyMoment

NOYFB


9 posted on 03/20/2013 8:56:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I have always thought the questions on the American Community Survey were intended for use in intensive community planning, specifically for forcing as many Americans as possible to live within walking distance of their jobs to “save energy”.
I am equally sure the answers are cross referenced to each citizen’s IRS records to uncover tax fraud.
The questions regarding bedrooms and bathrooms always conjure up the scene in Dr. Zhivago where a government bureaucrat lectures him on the number of families his mansion could hold and his selfishness at keeping it for himself. I have no doubt Obama and his minions would redistribute housing if they dared.


10 posted on 03/20/2013 8:59:23 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

We also have our property posted. We don’t answer the door to the census takers. We filled out the required info on the census form and mailed it back. 2 people live in our house. End of census. At one point they sent out a woman who was so obnoxious we finally opened the door and told her to get off the property. As far as we are concerned we are done for the next 10 years.


11 posted on 03/20/2013 9:02:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Texas Fossil

A helpful web site on how to resist this ACS abomination:
http://www.truthistreason.net/how-to-legally-refuse-to-participate-in-the-census-survey

Also read the extensive readers’ testamonials at the bottom to learn the Census agents’ creepy modus operandi and how other citizens have resisted.


12 posted on 03/20/2013 9:09:02 AM PDT by Ides of March (Beware.)
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To: Texas Fossil
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13 posted on 03/20/2013 9:11:54 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I didn’t answer the last census or the one before it. Last time they sent 2 census takers to my home. In this neighborhood, I don’t open the door for anyone unless I expect them. I was told by a neighbor that one census taker asked her questions about me, but the neighbor said she really didn’t know anything about me. Actually, the neighbor wasn’t lying. Beyond the occasional hello, I don’t know the neighbors and they don’t know me. Better and safer that way.

The feds could learn what they need to know about me from my SS disability records. I’m not going to help them.


14 posted on 03/20/2013 9:20:52 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Texas Fossil

Once every ten years. Two adults, as of right now 3 children.

For everything else...

Get off my lawn.


15 posted on 03/20/2013 9:25:36 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Wiser now

Actually, the IRS sued the Census to try to get information and the SCOTUS shot them down.


16 posted on 03/20/2013 9:27:37 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: fatnotlazy

Our driveway is 1850 feet long, downhill from the county blacktop. The gate is at the top of the hill, posted with a large no trespassing sign.

The census taker parked in from of the sign and gate and our alarm system picked him up walking down the hill. He made it half way down when we walked up behind him and told him to get off private property. He said he was a federal employee. I said the sheriff was on his way.
He left.


17 posted on 03/20/2013 9:30:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Ides of March

“Also read the extensive readers’ testamonials at the bottom to learn the Census agents’ creepy modus operandi and how other citizens have resisted.”

The census workers are just ordinary people, temps, probably hired at your local employment office. They’re not sufficiently well-organized to have a modus operandi.


18 posted on 03/20/2013 9:32:03 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Texas Fossil

My email format was just changed yesterday (against my wishes) and this morning an email from a friend had a notation over on the right side that I could get more info on her.

Her email is her business email and the person (same name) that was highlighted was NOT my friend. But what is going on with this?


19 posted on 03/20/2013 9:34:30 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ides of March

The Constitution doesn’t say that you are allowed to drive over the speed limit, doesn’t mean laws and statutes do not apply.


20 posted on 03/20/2013 9:39:31 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: dsc

And most are just trying to feed their families. Of course if they laid back and too food stamps and welfare, they’d be blasted here too.


21 posted on 03/20/2013 9:40:14 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: dsc
The census workers are just ordinary people, temps, probably hired at your local employment office.

That was true when the Census occurred every 10 years. Now, with the ACS, it is an on-going process each and every year, requiring permanent trained Field Agents.

22 posted on 03/20/2013 10:03:07 AM PDT by Ides of March (Beware.)
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To: Texas Fossil
I worry more about government bureaucrats having access to my medical records under Obamacare. Given current trends the nanny state may force me to diet, exercise or worse still euthanize me because I am too much of a burden on society.
23 posted on 03/20/2013 10:12:35 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: autumnraine
The Constitution doesn’t say that you are allowed to drive over the speed limit, doesn’t mean laws and statutes do not apply.

Speed limits are state and local law, not enumerated powers of the Federal government, but not prohibited to the States. The ACS is a power not enumerated to the Federal government, but has been usurped by them. See the Tenth Amendment.

24 posted on 03/20/2013 10:21:13 AM PDT by Ides of March (Beware.)
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To: Texas Fossil
NOYFB

Yeah, I try to keep a civil tongue in my head . . . . . . even with jackbooted government thugs.

But, that reponse is usually sitting very close to the tip of my tongue.

25 posted on 03/20/2013 10:48:00 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: dsc
The census workers are just ordinary people, temps, probably hired at your local employment office. They’re not sufficiently well-organized to have a modus operandi.

I worked the 2000 census and I can tell you that the "enumerators" (Ie field workers) are temps hired at minimum wage, with "preference given" to disabled, women, minorities, and veterans. At the time, all hiring was done by the census itself, which at the time was headed by the Commerce Department (Rahm Emanuel wanted it switched to the White House budget but that all came later) I applied in January and was given a screening test along with about 20 other applicants. The test covered some simple map reading and "grocery store arithmetic", we were given an hour to complete it. I finished in 15 minutes then went back and checked my answers which were correct the first time. Most of the applicants took the full hour. I'd guage the test difficulty as low junior high school.

I didn't get called back until the end of March, I had my doubts that I would be called at all since I fit none of the prerequisites for employment. I was offered a "clerk" position on second shift and took it for grins and giggles.

I had three days of training given by the people who had been hired three days before me, and they were trained by the people that were hired three days before...you get the picture.

The supervisors all the way up to the district managers were also temps but were paid a salary (honorary Civil Service??) in the high five digits and from what I saw were selected as beneficiaries of political patronage.

I spent three months there and came away with the painful realization that the census was a circus run by idiots and staffed by cretins with no idea how to use the technology dumped in front of them sans training.

Regards,
GtG

26 posted on 03/20/2013 11:52:00 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: DustyMoment

agreed


27 posted on 03/20/2013 11:57:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Wiser now

correct


28 posted on 03/20/2013 11:59:24 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Ides of March

Thanks for the link.


29 posted on 03/20/2013 12:00:40 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Ditter

probably your email provider is selling advertising of services on the emails you receive.

I am also very unhappy with my local ISP for forcing us to the Cloud and Google for email. This was forced by the cost of required record keeping mandated by the Fed Gov.

Yes, Big Brother and Big Sis are watching you. Recording everything you say and think. Welcome to the Brave New World. Orwell’s 1984 was a long time ago.


30 posted on 03/20/2013 12:08:45 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: The Great RJ

I am afraid that your concern is probably somewhat founded in fact and intent of ObozoCare and the COMDEMs.


31 posted on 03/20/2013 12:28:54 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
Today Rush was talking about using Reagan.com for email provider. Maybe we should do that.
32 posted on 03/20/2013 2:44:18 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Texas Fossil

Seems TSA agents could fill these surveys out while they rub people’s croches and boobs.


33 posted on 03/20/2013 6:35:21 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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