Posted on 04/01/2013 4:33:46 PM PDT by neverdem
Thanks for the ping. I learned early on that, with my minor in statistics, I had a license to lie.
THERE IS NO KNOWN CAUSE AND EFFECT BETWEEN CO2 AND TEMPERATURE CHANGES !
GLOBAL WARMING IS A FALSE SPECULATION !
Thanks for the ping.
Thanks for the ping!
Weather-wise, I'm not so sure.
For at least half of the last 2.5 million years, the Earth has been in an ice age.
Not a friendly climate for human beings.
15,000 years ago, Seattle, my home, was buried under 3,000 feet of ice.
I’m in NYC. There are glacial abrasions in Manhattan.
When driving in the middle of the night, it can help keep people awake...hehehehe.
I think there are two known relationships between temperature change and CO2. The primary one is in the opposite cause-effect direction of the one causing the hysteria, i.e. colder ocean water absorbs more CO2 and warmer water releases more CO2.
your tax dollars at work , fund decades of fake global warming research to fund a hoax that they will use to take away more of our freedom.
and the media instead of exposing the hoax, spreads the lies , brainwashing the public into voluntarily accepting slavery and economic destruction. Oh when I tell someone that global warming is a hoax they look at me like I'm crazy . they really do believe the news media and the gov. sheep being led to the slaughter .
that governments and the media spent trilions of dollars funding decades of fake research shows that government should be practically abolished except for the military and border control
So they want caution used when the data goes against their politics, but want legislation and the iron fist of government RUSHED through when the data SUPPOSEDLY fits their view. I see.
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No; oxidizers, mixed with a fuel source, stored in small, brass containers.
Government is buy vast quantities of them before they go extinct.
In short, rules made for the rest of us, must be observed by all of us, including the energy pig politicians and their allies.
That very first graphic with the city and scientists inside the greenhouse, has a ribbon overhead with a few dots in it.
The dots properly illustrate the ratio of CO2 molecules to the total makeup of the entire atmosphere, if not overstating it.
That insignificant .039% of CO2 is usually expressed as 400-parts-per-million, to make it sound big and dangerous to the Low Information Voters (because it has the word million in it)
In other words, those pitifully few dots of CO2 cannot form a heat trapping layer....
They don’t stop shiite!
What is portayed as an accurate prediction up until recently, is really not true. The reality is that these models have never made an accurate prediction.
Absolutely agree. I have seen and heard discussions in various venues comparing our lives during warming or cooling. Warmer weather is more conducive to food production. Enough said.
There are patterns, but our computers are orders of magnitudes from analysing them, and they are transient as Rirschach’s mask.
How great the mind of God is, to design this and the Natural Law which governs it.
Every democratic voter needs to sacrifice and put a plastic bag over their head and leave it there, just this once. What a joke they are, but they should get down on their knees and thank Marx that they have the GOP for opposition.
” - - - I think there are two known relationships between temperature change and CO2. - - - “
Your example has been proven, in the Scientific Literature, to show a cause and effect between temperature change in water temperature and the amount of CO2 that the water can hold.
It does not show that the concentration of CO2 changes the temperature of the water, or the air above the water.
Thus, the main assumption of the Global Warming junk scientists remains a false assumption, or to be charitable, a junk science speculation.
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CO2 is the primary source of Carbon for all life on and in the Earth.
Without CO2 life on Earth would be restricted to other, less abundant, sources of Carbon such as CO and CH4.
CO2 in thus an environmentally essential, AND environmentally friendly gas.
CO2 and taxes are similar in that they are good at low concentrations, but toxic at high concentrations.
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IF these relationships that you mentioned are speculations such as statistical inference as currently used by the junk scientists’ computer models, THEN Global Warming still has no known cause that can be documented by experimental cause and effect experiments.
Consequently, Global Warming remains a speculation in the same realm as the Moon being made of cheese.
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IF there are known cause and effect experiments on the change in temperature with a change in CO2 concentration, THEN what peer-reviewed Scientific Journal has published an article on this topic, and what is the title and date of that article?
BTW, be of good cheer if your search is fruitless, as even the United Nations and the inventor of the Internet could not find ONE such Scientific Article.
Best wishes for your success from the “Show Me” State.
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