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Gun permit suspended over medication (NY)
WIVB ^ | 09 Apr 2013 | Al Vaughters

Posted on 04/09/2013 9:41:30 PM PDT by neverdem

AMHERST, N.Y. (WIVB) - The NYS SAFE Act is billed as a necessary law to protect the public and keep guns out of the hands of the wrong people.

But Hamburg attorney Jim Tresmond says his client was notified by letter that his gun permit was suspended upon the recommendation of State Police, who learned the man is on anti-anxiety medication.

"Claiming that he had taken some psychotropic medications, and that he no longer could be eligible for the pistol permit," Tresmond said.

The permit holder lives in Amherst and Tresmond accompanied the man as he turned in his seven handguns used for target-shooting to Amherst Police.

"A law-abiding, honest, hard working professional, who never had one wit of scandal associated with him, criminal or otherwise. And they took his guns away," Tresmond said.

Tresmond is one of the attorneys already suing the state over passage of the SAFE ACT, which at the time was the toughest gun control law in the country.

Tresmond says his client once took a prescribed medication for his anxiety but he is not mentally ill. The Amherst man ended his prescription use within the last year.

"He is a law-abiding citizen, no record. He is a stellar member of the community, I would say. Not an ex-felon. He is one of the nicest young men I have met in a long time," Tresmond said.

Officials confirmed state law permits the suspension of a gun permit before the permit holder even gets a chance to state their case.

We have not been able to reach State Police to comment on this case but we do know Erie County officials have only taken action against one pistol permit holder on mental health grounds since the SAFE Act was passed last month.

Copyright WIVB.com



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To: Republican1795.

“I think they are looking to use any excuse to deprive people of the right to gun ownership.”

Yes, they don’t want a lot of trouble loading us on the boxcars.


41 posted on 04/10/2013 3:17:28 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: headstamp 2; All

The REAL question is why did he comply with an unconstitutional act!

We may all have to become felons to keep our guns, i.e, Haynes vs. US!


42 posted on 04/10/2013 3:47:29 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: MacMattico

Sleep disorders here. Doc gave me Ambien. I quit walking in my sleep in my late Twenties. Ambien brought it back, big time. Almost burnt down my house “sleep cooking.”


43 posted on 04/10/2013 3:59:30 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: AlmaKing
There are a lot of Freepers that agree with this.

There are a lot of Freepers who think a felon who has served his time should lose his second amendment rights, even non violent ones.

44 posted on 04/10/2013 4:13:36 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: headstamp 2

Who dropped the dime on this guy to the State Police?


No one had to. Tha databases are all linked. In Mass. driver’s license photos show up attached to health care records.


45 posted on 04/10/2013 4:26:01 AM PDT by Peet (Notice: Due to the high price of ammo, there will be NO warning shots.)
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To: neverdem

This is the reason that cramming Obamacare down our throats was essential to the Marxist democrats.

It is the portal for every vile and unConstitutional thing they have in store for us. It is the portal, so to speak. They now have access to your medical records, bank accounts and have their “doctors” and “neighbors” acting as informants.

People should make sure they keep an eye on their medical records because things could easily be planted on those records.


46 posted on 04/10/2013 4:26:20 AM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: doc1019

The right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

Every stinking law we have is an infringement.

While I do not consider myself a libertarian, I do not think there should be any laws restricting gun ownership. They simply do not work.


47 posted on 04/10/2013 5:03:40 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: neverdem

Consider the political espionage and extortion we have opened the door to now that the police have access to your medical records.

Have you ever had an STD?

Have you ever been raped?

Do you have a disease that may have been acquired via IV drug use?

Ever been treated for depression?

Are you thinking about running without a Democrat party endorsement?

=> you better think again...!!!


48 posted on 04/10/2013 6:06:23 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Sleep disorders here. Doc gave me Ambien. I quit walking in my sleep in my late Twenties. Ambien brought it back, big time. Almost burnt down my house “sleep cooking."

There was an article on FR some time ago about a lady in San Antonio who was on Ambien. She had a few drinks before taking it an going to bed. She got in her car, hit someone head-on and killed the driver. She had no clue she was even on the road.

49 posted on 04/10/2013 7:00:28 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (For Jay Carney - I heard your birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory.)
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To: entropy12
"It will be impossible to weed out every mental candidate in country by background checks."

Indeed, especially since the commie teachers are churning the nut buckets out of our schools as fast
as they can. Graduates today have no patriotism, no piety, no empathy, and no scholastic skills.

We will be a very long time, if ever, restoring our country after we throw these godless, evil bastards
out on their collective tushes.

I mourn for the last two generations of our children, and the next three to come, at least.

50 posted on 04/10/2013 9:01:58 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: doc1019

How about convicted felons?


51 posted on 04/10/2013 9:04:21 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: tired&retired

That’s very strange because PTSD is an anxiety disorder. So, I cam not See how Xanax would cause adverse effects.

I have heard Xanax is bad for those with psychosis, but PTSD is not psychosis, it’s a form of severe anxiety to a life threatening event/s.


52 posted on 04/10/2013 9:59:21 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: neverdem

The only reason I don’t agree with this is the right to his medical history privacy!! OTherwise, I wouldn’t cry if they took away guns from people on anti-anxiety drugs...


53 posted on 04/10/2013 10:20:57 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Republican1795.

“I think they are looking to use any excuse to deprive people of the right to gun ownership”

BINGO!


54 posted on 04/10/2013 10:22:10 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


55 posted on 04/10/2013 10:22:32 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: tired&retired

http://touch.nextgov.com/nextgov/#!/entry/army-warns-doctors-against-using-certain-drugs-in-ptsd-treatment,510f937d87443d6c8e3b56c9

The article states that Xanax combined with alcohol use is dangerous, Xanax does not PREVENT PTSD. It also highlights that Xanax is addictive and those suffering may have more anxiety and distress when trying to discontinue use. That is why they are concerned because of addiction.


56 posted on 04/10/2013 10:33:59 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Texas Fossil

I am going to be following this to find out how his PERSONAL medical info was made known to the state police. Talk about a huge HIPPA violation.


57 posted on 04/10/2013 10:43:10 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: tired&retired; Gaffer
Here are some links I’ve found over the years. Vestibular and Optic disorders are known to produce anxiety and panic attacks. Depending on the extent of the damage it can be mild or disabling. The one Phobia if you can call it that common to Vestibular Disorders is usually fear of high places. As such it is the brains own self preservation mechanism which triggers that. The brain knows there is Vestibular or sensory issues even if you don’t.

Many vestibular and sensory processing damage patients are not phobic in a true sense. The triggering offenses make the person to simply want away from the trigger. Therapies such as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy are of little value because again this is a non phobic and non traumatic event triggered disorder.

Go to a kids sandlot baseball game and watch the kids play. Most kids can track the ball and swing and hit. A Vestibular or optic sensory patient will do one or all of several things consistently. Swing too soon, swing too late, or duck away from the ball they should be hitting. I’ll do you one better though. It often shows up in how a kid or adults shoes wear out. When I was a kid my parents bought me a pair of shoes sometimes as often as once a month. I broke the sides over. Now as an adult I wear high top work boots with custom corrective insoles. Vestibular patients tend to walk off balance. I could never pass a straight line field sobriety test.

When I was a kid I had inappropriate sensory responses. Certain visual things that scared me I stopped up my ears. I also had extreme fear of thunder and fireworks. By age 7 the eye doctor told my parents I was one eye functional. Bt age 13 I was in a school for kids with physical disabilities to try and correct my coordination. They managed to get a considerable amount of it improved to where it wasn’t as notable. BTW I also passed the Armed Forces entrance physicals twice for two services.

I’ve had full blown General Anxiety Disorder for 18 years. I’m now 55. With this I also have what is called Myoclonic Seizures. When I have an attack it’s like being hit with a bucket of ice water or an electric shock. It produces a very severe upper torso spasm as many as several a minute. As I understand this degree of it is rare.

A book called Phobia Free by Harold Levinson MD pointed me to all this. He is a research Neurologist / psychiatrist and back in the 1970’s discovered a significant portion of his anxiety patients had Vestibular damage histories. You have to go back even to earliest childhood. Such things as chronic ear infections and/or sinus allergies can cause the damage. COGNITIVE ASPECTS OF VESTIBULAR DISORDERS VEDA Conference - Portland, Oregon

PANIC ATTACKS MAY BE LINKED TO BALANCE DISORDERS

Sensory Integration Disorder

A search on Anxiety in the Vestibular Disorders Association website

58 posted on 04/10/2013 7:41:30 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: HollyB
The article states that Xanax combined with alcohol use is dangerous, Xanax does not PREVENT PTSD. It also highlights that Xanax is addictive and those suffering may have more anxiety and distress when trying to discontinue use. That is why they are concerned because of addiction.

I had PTSD it hit me the same time the GAD hit. That made an accurate diagnoses more difficult in my case. PTSD IMO is best treated by one on one therapy sessions with a good LCSW who specializes in PTSD and anxiety. It takes time. I took me almost 5 years.

Doctors should not write Xanax to persons who have more than a single rare drink like a small glass of wine or a beer. The lower the dosage the lower the risk of problems. For PTSD though Klonopin would seem a wiser choice. What you want is low level but consistent in bloodstream.

59 posted on 04/10/2013 7:55:27 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

I agree with your post snipe. Also, I sent you a message.


60 posted on 04/10/2013 9:17:36 PM PDT by HollyB
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