Posted on 04/20/2013 5:48:01 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) discusses gun control and background checks with Geraldo Rivera on his radio show and takes calls from listeners.
PAUL: This grief is just an unbearable burden. I think people are politicizing and trying to take advantage. Politicians are taking advantage of peoples' grief. And it makes me even sadder to see, gosh this person lost their five year old son, their six year old son, and they're being put as pawns in the middle of a political debate that's been going on for years. And really, one of the the only ways I can think of o stop these shootings is to announce tomorrow that there wont be gun-free zones in schools.
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Government indoctrination centers DO NOT CARE about protection of your children. Brainwashing & larger, MORE important agenda-driven kill zones are win/win. Fake concern from con-men washes away their culpability.
The Army can make that easily.....Christians, Catholics and Mormons. This is not rocket science to the Army.
Rand’s immigration stance is actually more practical and more beneficial to legal residents than what is happening right now. Illegals are getting free maternity benefits and medicaid, millions collecting food stamps, more millions taking jobs from legal immigrants and citizens, many work for cash and pay no taxes.
Absolute Worst part is illegals do not register, and no one knows where they live. Rand Paul’s proposal improves on all fronts. There are fines to be paid, taxes to be paid. After 10+ years many will qualify for citizenship, after the law breakers, tax evaders are weeded out.
The current situation is intolerable, and wishing that laws be followed will not make it happen. We got Obama/Holder in charge.
I was a “Hollywood” Mairine. Did my NCO school on Paris Island though... The best of both Coasts I guess...
So far, all I’ve heard fromRand is that his “path” is following the current law with a closed border and no bennies. That “current path” is going back to your home Country and applying like everyone else.
If you’ve got a better idea... Let’s hear it...
You need to trust him on immigration he’s just trying to make something terrible better which I think he’ll fail to do.
It’s coming whether we like it or not in some shape or form. Rand is trying to shape it in a better fashion.
The current bill is a joke of course.
Trying to get this corrupt administration to “enforce current law” is not going to happen.
They’re in power for the next 4 years no matter how much we hate them and they will continue their lax policy.
Rand is trying to make a bad bill better. He will fail and end up against it im pretty sure. Wait and see.
The gangs bill is a joke. He’s trying to change it through his own amendments to make it better. His amendments will likely fail.
If they do fail the bill in the current form will die in the House but it’s not without risk....
The lying Marxist will take full advantage and scream day and night that the GOP is racist and anti-immigrant. That’s what he plans to run on in 2014. He’s a nasty, lying POS.
I will reluctantly support permanent residency for illegals currently in the US who are law abiding other than their immigration status, but those individuals should never have a path to full citizenship. That is their penalty for jumping the line and entering this country illegally while others wait for years in their country trying to do it the right way.
Problem: Obama then screams day and night about 2nd class citizens.
Check mate.
We’re dealing with a nasty, lying POS.
“I was a “Hollywood” Mairine. Did my NCO school on Paris Island though... The best of both Coasts I guess...”
Okay, the Marine Corps thought well of you.
Semper fi, Marine. It’s a pleasure to meet you.
Who’s going to make them go home? Certainly not ICE.
Cut off the welfare spigot and the only ones wanting to stay are the ones we want.
Let the rest go back the same way they snuck in...
I agree. Except that many will still be kept by people entitled to welfare. Tio Ernesto can share the things bought with food stamps.
End government welfare. It isn’t a Federal job.
And yes, it really is that easy.
I also note, you never said what your plan would be...
In addition to upholding the 2d amendment, putting convicted murderers to death in the matter of months woud put a huge dent in our murder rate.
To: JPD, DC, and etropy
info: Yo-Yo
Subj: Republicans are scared of their own shadows
Msg: Fellas, I appreciate what you are trying to do. Really, I do. I understand that Rand Paul’s is trying to make this excrement sandwich more palatable. However, it’s still an excrement sandwich! These illegals deserve nothing. You could make a humanitarian case for the so-called “Dream-act children” who grew up here and, for all intents and purposes, are Americans. However, their parents should never get a path to citizenship outside of the regular process. I could see issuing work visas or creating a special category of some other color cards, so those who snuck in here can work legally and not become a burden on our social and prison systems. I wouldn’t do this for their benefit, but for ours. However, all of this smacks of weakness and appeasement. We are lawful American citizens. They are trespassers. Why should we tolerate these criminals amongst us? Mexico does not tolerate such things within their own country? Why are we so stupid to allow it? If Hispanics in this country think no deal on immigration is due to anti-hispanic bias, that is their problem. Some good communications skills on the part of republican party would be helpful in allaying these fears, but I would not count on that from the “stupid party” (i.e. GOP).
My Grandfather crossed the Atlantic on a crammed passenger ship when he was 5 years old in the care of his slightly older brother. When he and his older brother got here, they was processed, checked for infections, and given into the custody of other relatives who legally came here before them. After arriving here, my Grandfather and my Great Uncles learned perfect English and became fully integrated into American society — so much so that their off-spring are now considered products of privilege by some. This bill, this amnesty, insults the memory of my Grandfather and all the law-abiding people who have immigrated to the US before and after his arrival. These people followed the law and earnestly desired to become Americans. Physically cut-off from their mother countries, most of these immigrants gathered together in ghettos and had menial jobs. But, no matter how poor they were, they were proud to be Americans and they did not ask for, nor did they receive, any public assistance.
We have a problem with illegal immigrants. Something should be done about it. However, ramming an 800 page piece of legislation down the throats of loyal, tax-paying, patriotic Americans is a complete betrayal.
If Congress really wants to do something about immigration, they should do the right thing. Form a commission to look into the matter for several months. Based on the commission’s recommendations, Congress critters can propose comprehensible legislation...say 50 pages of text in clear language, and then have several weeks of debates and amendments, posting the full text of all proposed legislation online so the public can see what’s in the bill if they are so inclined. Right now, they are trying to jam this poop pie down our gullets without having any debate.
I supported Rand Paul’s filibuster on drones. Although that was certainly a very important ethical question, an immigration agreement that will literally transform this country overnight should demand a filibuster even more. I do not see Rand Paul nor any other republican currently talking about that. Perhaps, they will if they can’t modify the current bill to their liking. Right now, I just see a lot of sound without fury, signifying nothing.
You may be from Maryland, but your graphic with Sam Elliot captured the mindset of TEXAS to a TEA!
It may be simple, but hardly easy. This has been going on since 1933.
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