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National Guard forced to stand down by law enforcement in Boston
The Washington Times Communities ^ | Sunday, April 21, 2013 | Alan Jones

Posted on 04/22/2013 8:42:40 AM PDT by patriotgal1787

The commander of the Rhode Island Army National Guard 13th Civil Support Team (CST) claims that her two WMD detection experts assigned duty at the Boston Marathon along with WMD troops from the Massachusetts Army National Guard 1st CST were “several blocks” from the finish line at the time of the twin terror bombings, but when those units immediately tried to move into position to respond, troops from both states were forced to stay back after law enforcement denied them access to the scene at the finish line.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bbnationalguard; bombing; boston; bostonbombing; nationalguard
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To: Valpal1

Is that who the two khaki guys are? No CST on their back though.


81 posted on 04/22/2013 11:23:02 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Crim

Pandemic.


82 posted on 04/22/2013 11:24:20 AM PDT by Califreak (11/6/12 The Day America Divided By Zero)
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To: dragnet2

?????

Accidental explosions or petroleum fires are in no way similar to planting bombs and the deliberate killing and delimbing of innocent people.


83 posted on 04/22/2013 11:25:49 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: patriotgal1787

One of the goals for bombers is to lure responders to an area and then set off a secondary bomb.


84 posted on 04/22/2013 11:25:56 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: dragnet2

lets not forget as well as the Boston strong and we are Boston , oh those vigils where mostly women have to out do each other with their crying and make it seems they’re more upset than the next woman.

The national anthem being played for the next few weeks at every turn there are also the so called hero’s.

I heard Carlson this morning on FOX say the neighbor went outside and saw blood going to his boat and called the cops and then called him a hero.

And yes those elected officials who have to scramble to the TV and the media play ever aspect with so called pro’s


85 posted on 04/22/2013 11:27:13 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Pan_Yan

I love Boston after visiting during summer vacation twice. May be lefty, but I love the city.

But, as a Texan now, I have to say, I am really upset that the West event has gotten virtually no coverage after the first couple days.

That is especially concerning when the death toll will be likely 10 times worse than Boston.


86 posted on 04/22/2013 11:35:17 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: rwfromkansas

Spent a weekend in Boston while in the Navy. Had a great time and the people were wonderful. That said the people of Texas are in no less pain; indeed in a town that size most people must know multiple victims. Truly tragic.


87 posted on 04/22/2013 11:40:37 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: pgkdan

I know. I was illustrating the absurdity of tin foil theories.


88 posted on 04/22/2013 11:50:03 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If guns kill people, how come no one dies at gun shows?)
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To: knittnmom
So, before the bombings, the National Guard had troops in place for the Boston Marathon? Does anyone else think this sounds just a little suspicious? Or is this SOP for major events?

SOP. Without going into details, the idea of the National Guard troops on scene is to provide first responders with the ability to quarantine and decontaminate/mitigate any WMD's that may have been involved. (i.e. Nuclear, Biological and/or Chemical weapons). The national guard units have "spotters" who respond to an event and determine if any WMD's were involved, and if so, they begin making preparations to use their specialized equipment. Other resources are also deployed to determine any WMD involvement. Many police departments issue WMD detection capabilities to their cops on scene.
89 posted on 04/22/2013 12:35:46 PM PDT by krogers58 ())
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To: Sir Napsalot
News is getting stranger by the day hour minute.....
90 posted on 04/22/2013 12:48:51 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: krogers58

Thanks. Good to know.


91 posted on 04/22/2013 1:17:32 PM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: patriotgal1787

This is rather disturbing. National Guard troops, until federalized, are NOT considered Title 10 (Federal) but Title 32 (State) and ARE NOT restricted by Posse Commitatus. They CAN be used in civil matters.

Also, a Civil Support Team (CST) are full time National Guard troops trained in dealing with WMDs. So, their presence is appropriate. However, I believe the Governor would have needed to send them.

CSTs were created in the 90s by President Clinton to deal with the possible used by terrorists/criminals of radiological/chemical/biological weapons in the U.S.

We are very fortunate that those looney’s didn’t pack radioactive material in those pressure cooker bombs. Then we would have really had a mess in addition to the terrible loss of life.


92 posted on 04/22/2013 2:19:17 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Venturer

“The National Guard would have just gotten in the way, and destroyed evidence.”

Not true in this case. Civil Support Teams (CSTs) are HIGHLY TRAINED to not only assess potential WMD situations, they are also highly trained in forensic evidence collection...for possible latter prosecutions.

There use would have been appropriate. Also, I emphasize that a CST is Title 32 (state) not Title 10 (Federal). They would not have been breaking ANY laws in regards to using military for law enforcement. Plus, CSTs aren’t traditional armed forces. They are WMD specialists.


93 posted on 04/22/2013 2:23:12 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: krogers58

“Many police departments issue WMD detection capabilities to their cops on scene.”

National Guard CSTs are better trained and equipted to deal with WMD detection and assessment than any police department.

Sounds like a turf battle to me. Those bombs could have easily been laced with radiological, chemical, or biological weapon material.


94 posted on 04/22/2013 2:26:55 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Gaffer

REMFing crowd and lookyloo control?? Please type in plain English for the sake of the ignorant.


95 posted on 04/22/2013 2:28:14 PM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue.")
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To: Old Sarge
Union rules for overtime.

Their words or your personal interpretation?

96 posted on 04/22/2013 2:31:46 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Lurker
Good. The National Guard has no business doing the work of police officers unless they are formally activated by the Governor of a State.

I agree. This article is much ado about nothing. No state of emergency was declared, and law enforcement ran things as well as they could.

The problem, as I see it, is that the Feds are enacting more laws requiring specific crimes to be handled by the FBI, DHS, et al. If they continue to write laws and make specific crimes 'investigate-able' by federal law enforcement, at what point does it become necessary to question whether local police are necessary?

97 posted on 04/22/2013 2:38:19 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
News is getting stranger by the day hour.....

It's not the news, most of it is irrelevant such as this stupid article. It's the source that is desperately hoping for a chance at a Pullitzer.......

98 posted on 04/22/2013 2:40:36 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Pecos

Posse Commitatus Act has to do with Federal troops, not National Guard (state troops).


99 posted on 04/22/2013 3:13:53 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: nevergore

They were there for the potential WMD threat—Detect, respond and assist in WMD after-actions. Early detection means more informed medical response.


100 posted on 04/22/2013 3:19:37 PM PDT by Hulka
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