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Boston bombing suspect charged, will not be treated as enemy combatant
Fox News ^ | April 22, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 04/22/2013 10:42:57 AM PDT by Envisioning

The White House said Monday that the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing will not be treated as an enemy combatant, in response to calls from Republican lawmakers to consider that option.

The announcement came as a sealed complaint was filed against suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Fox News has learned that the suspect made an initial appearance in front of a federal magistrate judge at the hospital where he is still being treated. No plea was entered.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/22/white-house-says-boston-bombing-suspect-will-not-be-treated-as-enemy-combatant/#ixzz2RDOmB3KX

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boston; enemycombatant; islam; marathon; obamavoter; terrorist; traitor; treason; tsarnaev; waronterror
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

The INS may seek denaturalization if the applicant made a false oral statement under oath (regardless of whether the testimony is material) with the subjective intent of obtaining immigration benefits. Alternatively, the INS may seek denaturalization if the applicant procured naturalization by concealment or willful misrepresentation of a material fact. In either case, the INS must prove its complaint by clear, unequivocal, and convincing evidence.

http://www.justice.gov/olc/ina340.htm


81 posted on 04/22/2013 12:02:15 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: LibsRJerks

Road Rage


82 posted on 04/22/2013 12:15:23 PM PDT by ri4dc (Cut your cable. You'll need the extra dough later on. 'This war is lost!' The worst is yet to come.)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Pretty damned good analysis. Good work.


83 posted on 04/22/2013 12:17:11 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Pontiac
The INS may seek denaturalization if the applicant made a false oral statement under oath (regardless of whether the testimony is material) with the subjective intent of obtaining immigration benefits. Alternatively, the INS may seek denaturalization if the applicant procured naturalization by concealment or willful misrepresentation of a material fact. In either case, the INS must prove its complaint by clear, unequivocal, and convincing evidence.

As the reference goes on to explain, such evidence must be established in either a judicial or an administrative proceeding; however, the naturalized citizen may appeal for judicial review of any adverse decision. In other words, every citizen has a right to trial in a court of law.

The Constitution is our best friend; it is the head that whispers warnings against doing things that our emotions scream at us to do.

84 posted on 04/22/2013 12:20:55 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Pontiac

That sounds reasonable (if not a little legalistic) if nothing else is going on except trying to remove a naturalized citizen’s citizenship for the causes mentioned. A nice, little, boring episode of “Law and Order”.

Of course, that’s not what we’re talking about here, at all. It’s hard to see how the Boston Marathon bombing could NOT be considered a terrorist attack on the US and its citizens, and that this would have direct implications on the validity of his oath of citizenship. Since this determines the protections he receives and the manner in which he is tried, I would think that a Judge who can chew gum and walk at the same time can review this and make an appropiate determination before any trial.


85 posted on 04/22/2013 12:24:35 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“...until he was eligible for Social Security.”

With the injuries he sustained, he’s probably eligible for SS disability right now. /s


86 posted on 04/22/2013 1:01:17 PM PDT by beelzepug (Telling other people they need to die is a good way to get your own lamp blown out.)
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To: luckystarmom
They can’t do that for people that were born here.

Oh, yes they can.

8 USC § 1481 - Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions

(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality—

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(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.


So, yes, there is a way to do so...legally.

87 posted on 04/22/2013 1:03:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: Envisioning
DoJ response: Suspect in Boston Marathon Attack Charged with Using a Weapon of Mass Destruction
88 posted on 04/22/2013 1:03:49 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Yep....interesting too that this Marxist government under Obama now says that a presser cooker is a WMD...but for years..all of the precursors of chemical,biological,and nuclear weapons found in Iraq were not proof of any WMDS in Iraq according to many of these same people.

This country is doomed!


89 posted on 04/22/2013 1:06:43 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: bamahead

Your method of dealing with the terrorist will encourage them based on our “WEAKNESS.” Serve in real combat and kill a man where his blood hits you. You have not been there. I am not proud of allowing a Rhade to put a bullet through a tax collectors heart as I bent over to apply a tourniquet on his leg. I did understand what he said-”if we let him live-our families will be killed.” I hate to say you need to read the Koran and realize it is not a religion we even want in this country.


90 posted on 04/22/2013 1:26:27 PM PDT by Lumper20 (`)
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To: bamahead

Your method of dealing with the terrorist will encourage them based on our “WEAKNESS.” Serve in real combat and kill a man where his blood hits you. You have not been there. I am not proud of allowing a Rhade to put a bullet through a tax collectors heart as I bent over to apply a tourniquet on his leg. I did understand what he said-”if we let him live-our families will be killed.” I hate to say you need to read the Koran and realize it is not a religion we even want in this country.


91 posted on 04/22/2013 1:27:43 PM PDT by Lumper20 (`)
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To: Candor7

I had not seen those photos. I don’t understand how anyone, especially the President of the United States, given the certainty of an Islamic connection, could see that carnage and deny there is a war.

I have come to believe that the leftist americans, enemies of our Republic, believe that war ended in Vietnam. The book was closed. There is no more war. Therefore there is only Criminal activity on a massive international scale.

That is a Neo Europan ideaology springing like a deadly cancer from the centroid, Boston.


92 posted on 04/22/2013 1:35:24 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Always A Marine

No need for denaturalization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hans_Haupt


93 posted on 04/22/2013 1:44:05 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: bert

We all need to look at these photos. Its horrid. Its what happened on US soil.

These evil jihadists terrorists and their silent supporters need to be rooted out, deported and/or tried.

It is WAR.

Instead we have fascist loonies in charge of Washington who think all they need is a few social programs and more threats of raising taxes in order to shut up patriots. Obama is an immigrant and should not occupy the office.. He will not do anything. But WE THE PEOPLE will. Its just a matter of time.


94 posted on 04/22/2013 1:46:53 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: don-o

The Koran states that there are four ways in which infidels should be treated.

1. That they should be converted to Islam, OR

2. That they should be conquered and made to pay tribute, AND

3. That they should be oppressed, e.g. in the exercise of their religion. Examples:

a. They shall not be permitted to build, or expand houses of worship and related properties.

b. They should wear identifying clothing or emblems so that the faithful can readily identify them (e.g. like the Nazis required the Star of David)

4. OR that they shall be slain - - and the preferred method is by beheading.

Yes, all of this is actually in the Koran. So if the Koran is the literal word of Allah, and if you are faithful to Islam, then it is your duty to treat infidels accordingly.

By the way, the Koran also allows/encourages Muslims to lie to infidels to further the faith and the objectives of the Ummah (the Muslim community).


95 posted on 04/22/2013 2:49:40 PM PDT by Lumper20 (`)
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To: camle

Yes, I agree. Unfortunately, he is a U.S. citizen, and as such, should be afforded rights given to us by our Constitution. To do otherwise puts every other citizen in danger.


96 posted on 04/22/2013 3:21:38 PM PDT by chickpundit
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To: Southack

How do we know they were Police? They all looked like incompetent wanna be military to me!


97 posted on 04/22/2013 3:30:02 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Envisioning

The wot is over. BHO won, so now there are no enema combatants.


98 posted on 04/22/2013 3:31:00 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Envisioning

He’s an American citizen.

The Constitution applies to him.

Thank the immigration policy that welcomes Moslems.


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