Posted on 04/30/2013 5:30:30 AM PDT by Biggirl
He was Right, Millions just listening and not understanding it is their personnel responsibility and to allow military style search for 1 person. Had this individual tried to come into our home only one would have walked out at best.
We are becoming a nation of wimps, who in general, do not understand out Rights or Responsibilities.
As I posted on another thread last night:
A little lesson on the law: Allowing police to come into your home, even if it’s just for a new officer to introduce him/herself, is silent consent. If the officer sits down on your couch, feels something funny, pulls your unregistered revolver from the seat cushions, you’re in trouble. The same can happen in your vehicle. The cop pulls you over, asks you to get out, and starts going through your trunk. You have nothing to hide so why protest! You don’t say no so by doing so you’re saying yes. He finds your teenage son’s friend’s bag of weed. Guess who’s going to jail for this? I just took part in a huge Bill of Rights high school assembly. These scenarios are exactly the examples that the lawyers presented. If those cops saw anything in those houses, the fact that the residents let them in to look for a terrorist is irrelevant.
Yes, everything can be used against them. Failing to tell the police no and opening the door to your home is silent consent.
I can’t say he’s wrong. What bothered me most is the way the people of Watertown simply bent over and took it. I hope anyone there who refused to let the police in and were forcibly searched will follow up with a lawsuit.
In the Dorner manhunt the police shot up several completely innocent people in their vehicles. Fortunately no one was killed.
Considering all the rounds thrown by police while the last suspect lay bleeding and unarmed inside a boat, I think they were more lucky than anything else in this last go around.
It was a civilian resident who found Tsarnaev, not a cop. The search did nothing to find him. Simply cordoning the area would have produced the same result.
Yes, telling the police they can search your home is consent. But what about those who were not home or who didnt answer the door? And if they were say drug dealers with lots of the product out in the open (inside) they could just refuse.
If those people agreed to a search then it wasnt much of a police state action.
Look I have no problem with people using this search tactic to bash the governor. If a Republican governor had done this the left would be all over it. However, one of the reasons for this house to house searh in that neighborhood was that a suspected terrorist cell was harboring the fugitive. Both terrorist drove all over Waltham and Watertown for an hour, dense city streets, that only a local would have knowledge to navigate. They could have easily gotten on the Mass Pike and gassed up the car in five minutes from where the hijacking took place Allston. Who were the looking for or who did they meet up with in Watertown?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=B_Gb6i5DF9k&NR=1
the gov also ORDERED everyone to not leave their house and for no one to go in
Aiming rifles at Americans in windows is a very big deal. Dragging Americans out of houses German Nazi style is a big deal.
"Raus! Raus! Schnell! Raus!"
And Americans didn't object at all. Just wait for the "real" national emergency, and not just this little demo project. I'm sure the DHS/SA/SS is very happy with the placid sheeple response to Watertown.
Stuff like that plant the “seeds” for “revolt”.
You open your borders, let in tens of millions of low-lifes and criminals, and this result is inevitable.
Liberty is not for everyone. That’s why we have jails. And locks on doors, and fences, and bank vaults.
It’s nothing new.
If they needed to search homes because of the possibility that the terrorist was holding up in a home and was taking hostages, why did they force the inhabitants to keep their hands up at gunpoint and pat them down? Could the terrorist have disguised himself that well or have been hiding in someone’s pocket? The cops weren’t looking for the suspect, they were treating all citizens as criminals and conducting illegal searches.
.....Yet the irony of it all is that it took a guy who wanted to go out for a “smoke” to find bomber number 2, right in his boat!
Who pays for the time missed from work?
And what was amazing is how willingly the people in Boston were willing to give up their freedom and dignity. Being patted down at gunpoint under the guise of looking for a particular suspect?
So you're good with having your neighborhood locked down like a cell block and have a dozen or so men with sub machineguns remove you and your family from your home at gunpoint while they ransack your house... As long as they don't shoot and/or kill you?
I just can’t help but wonder how many FReepers would feel the same outrage if it were a civilian posse doing exactly the same with zero oversight.
Lord knows how much property civilian posses destroyed over the years, or how many searches they conducted, or how many innocents they wounded or killed, or how many executions they carried out without benefit of trial.
None of it was right but we need some balance rather than grabbing our crotches and screaming “police state!”.
No, we don't need a strong and capable police force. When you get that, you boston only worse next time. 99% of them will follow whatever orders they are given. Ask one of them if they would have followed the orders to put Anne Frank on a train to the camps in nazi germany and watch them squirm to avoid giving you an honest yes or no answer. The real answer is they would load her ass onto that rail car. The laws of human nature have not been repealed. Americans are going to have to learn the hard way that the police are not their friends.
Stupid...foot in mouth . Sometimes you’re better off keeping opinion to self.
If you’re in the hospital deaf with your ears still ringing or looking at the stumps that were your legs. No you idiot it’s not scarier.
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