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Pentagon Changes Mind, Says Soldiers Can Share Faith
The New American ^ | May 4, 2013 | Dave Bohon

Posted on 05/04/2013 9:23:11 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

Following an uproar over a Defense Department statement saying that military personnel could be court-martialed for sharing their faith, the Pentagon has backed down on that position and now says soldiers are free to proselytize, as long as they don't harass others. “Service members can share their faith,” clarified Navy Lieutenant Commander Nate Christensen in a statement, “but must not force unwanted, intrusive attempts to convert others of any faith or no faith to one's beliefs.”

The Defense Department had released an alarming statement saying: “Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense.... Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis.” That statement appeared to come as the result of an April 24 meeting between military officials and Mikey Weinstein of the atheist group Military Religious Freedom Foundation, in which Weinstein pressured Air Force officials to enforce a policy that supposedly bans Air Force personnel from openly expressing their religious faith. The Defense Department has reportedly turned to Weinstein's group to hammer out policies on religious expression in the military.

Weinstein has gained notoriety for his aggressive campaign to sanitize the military of overt faith expressions by service members. He told Fox News that “until the Air Force or Army or Navy or Marine Corps punishes a member of the military for unconstitutional religious proselytizing and oppression, we will never have the ability to stop this horrible, horrendous, dehumanizing behavior.” Weinstein was referring to examples of supposed religious persecution within the ranks, and said that his group “would love to see hundreds of prosecutions to stop this outrage of fundamentalist religious persecution.”

The outcry from chaplains and religious leaders over Weinstein's rhetoric prompted the Defense Department to issue its updated statement backing down from implying that service members might be targeted for sharing their faith.

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“Members of our military should not be denied the very freedoms they fight to defend,” explained ADF Legal Counsel Joseph La Rue. “Freedom of religion and speech are paramount among those freedoms.”
1 posted on 05/04/2013 9:23:11 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

Backed down for now, until they can find a more subtle way of doing it.


2 posted on 05/04/2013 9:25:53 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: EXCH54FE

Weekend news dump .. spineless undermining pukes.


3 posted on 05/04/2013 9:26:29 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: EXCH54FE

Ya see folks! All we have to do is have faith!!

Never cave!!


4 posted on 05/04/2013 9:27:01 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked Ideas 50c)
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To: EXCH54FE

yeah this whole issue was, in my estimation, totally contrived. So now Christians can share their faith, and it should apply to gays, wiccins atheists etc to persuade soldier of the benefits of a gay wiccins atheist lifestyle.............


5 posted on 05/04/2013 9:27:14 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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“until the Air Force or Army or Navy or Marine Corps punishes a member of the military for unconstitutional religious proselytizing and oppression,

Mikely. there is no such thing as unconstitutional religious proselytizing by a member of ANY organization.

6 posted on 05/04/2013 9:27:22 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: EXCH54FE

Reminds me of Clinton’s feminizing of the military.

When he tried it on the Top Marine the man replied “Sir, we don’t do that.”

Clinton, flummoxed, asked why.

“Because we’re the Marine Corps, Sir” he was told.


7 posted on 05/04/2013 9:28:10 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Good on Joe La Rue.


8 posted on 05/04/2013 9:28:20 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked Ideas 50c)
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...for unconstitutional religious proselytizing and oppression...

How about first pointing out where the courts determined that was unconstitutional?

9 posted on 05/04/2013 9:31:19 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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“but must not force unwanted, intrusive attempts to convert others of any faith or no faith to one’s beliefs.”

So the Libeal demoRats must not force unwanted, intrusive...

Hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10 posted on 05/04/2013 9:34:30 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Who ever thought we’d see the day that atheists and homosexuals would be running the Pentagon? Sad. America has really fallen.


11 posted on 05/04/2013 9:40:51 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: EXCH54FE

I’ve noticed that those who are opposed to Christ, tend to react to any Christian statement, with proclamation “they don’t believe in it!” or “That is your faith, not mine.” or “ I don’t believe in demons (or angels)(or God)”, but in the same breath they seek spirituality.

I have considered that perhaps they follow a worldly taught perspective that Christian beliefs aren’t based upon reality, but upon fairy tales, yet this isn’t consistent with their manifest perspective, though it might be one of many arguments they advance.


12 posted on 05/04/2013 9:42:43 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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My instant solution for all Christian soldiers was to tell them to get prayer rugs, face Mecca and pray the rosary or Christian prayers 5 times a day. What WOULD the Pentagon have done then? We all know it wouldn’t have applied to Muslims. I’m afraid the Trojan horse is not only here, but is being fed and runs things.


13 posted on 05/04/2013 9:49:23 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.Do what)
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Awhhh...you mean that I’m not allowed to drag someone into church and force him to become a Christian?


14 posted on 05/04/2013 9:53:54 AM PDT by Stark_GOP
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To: PoloSec
Backed down for now, until they can find a more subtle way of doing it.

Correct, this isn't over. The rabid anti-Christian bigot Mikey Weinstein has gotten his foot in the door with the DOD.

It's disheartening to know that the Pentagon has given such a cretin as much as the time of day.

15 posted on 05/04/2013 9:55:52 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: PoloSec

“Backed down for now, until they can find a more subtle way of doing it.”

Yeh no kidding. What did they think was going to happen when they came out with this new policy? Its like they don’t live in the same universe as the rest of us. Probably 80% of the people in the military are Christians. 80% of the American public identifies themselves as christians for God’s sake.

All this stuff comes from the Muslim in the Whitehut.


16 posted on 05/04/2013 9:57:02 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Weinstein doesn’t actually understand the reasoning for the separation of church and state.


17 posted on 05/04/2013 9:59:20 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 0.E.O

Sorry, when did We the People stop being the start/end-all for all laws? Co-equal branches and all, let alone Congress delegating what can(not) be argued in court?

Course, that means I still believe Congress should be removing judges that overstep their duties and/or start making laws from the bench....I know, silly me.


18 posted on 05/04/2013 10:00:00 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: mountainlion

They probably figured that a demoralized soldier is less likely to protect his fag brothers in arms. Liberals’s thinking: just in case there is a God we’d better let them pray to protect our homo brothers so they can be Scout leaders, schoolteachers, and SCOTUS later.


19 posted on 05/04/2013 10:00:39 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: EXCH54FE

..contrived news story to begin with to take the headlines leading up to Benghazi off front page


20 posted on 05/04/2013 10:00:42 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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