Skip to comments.Personal Remembrances of the Kent State Shootings, 43 Years Later
Posted on 05/04/2013 9:27:17 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
On May 4, 1970, four Kent State University students were killed and nine injured when members of the Ohio National Guard opened fire during a demonstration protesting the Vietnam War.
In 2010, the site of the Kent State University shootings was placed on the National Register of Historic places by the Department of Interior with support of the Ohio Preservation Office. Carole Barbuto, a communication studies professor at Kent State University who was a junior there in 1970, spoke to Behold about some of the more than 4,000 images (many from student photographers) the university has in its archive related to the events around May 4. Since 2001, Barbuto has taught a course titled May 4, 1970, and Its Aftermath and she also led the photo selection process for the May 4 Visitors Center. Its a difficult story to tell, Barbuto said. Its a very complex story. There are still many unanswered questions. Barbuto spoke about her personal and historic knowledge about the famous images, sharing her insight and observations about the killings 43 years later:
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There is no mystery....the press just doesn’t want to tell the whole story.
This small college town had a couple of cops. As things were getting fairly peppy and a lot of weird stuff was happening down on the streets of the town (not even the university)....the mayor got pretty worried. He wanted protection. The campus cops were non-existent, and the local cops could do nothing. The governor? He did the only thing possible....he sent the national guard in.
The punks? They were all being pushed around and led by people who felt they’d just continue to challenge authority and get away with just about everything.
So the day finally came....the challenge authority crowd met up with the state national guard. Some dead students on the ground. Some journalists write a fifty-percent story because they really can’t tell the whole thing.
What happened in the year or two after that? That’s the interesting part. A lot of parents got real scared and felt their kids were in the wrong kind of campus. The state and the administrators were all fearful of a massive curtailment of students.
So all of the trouble-makers were identified, and sent packing. They kept names and when other colleges asked about records....some comments were made. The trouble-makers weren’t going to get free tickets elsewhere.
Campuses across the nation? They all added more cops. Cities with colleges? They went and added more cops. Any hint of trouble? You got lectured and given one chance to straighten up. No college in America today will allow this kind of trouble to repeat. It would be massive destruction if you had twenty kids killed today....with hundred of millions in lawsuits possible....and few colleges could recover from a situation like that.
Hillary: “What difference does it make now?”
I grew up 35 mile from there.
It did not go down the way journalists have painted it.
The Kids were totally out of control. They were attacking the ROTC and then the National Guard when Gov Rhodes called them in..
When they ran out of rocks to throw they commenced to mixing redi crete and pouring it into dixie cups to huck from the dorm windows at the guard.
It was cacophonic chaos.
At some point while under heavy assault the Guard fired warning shots over the heads of the mob.
Sadly what goes up must come down and 4 kids that were not part of the mob were hit with the stray bullets.
One of them Sandra Lee Scheuer grew up just a few mi from me.
National Guard 4, Kent State 0: Final
One, do not send in troops to do police work.
Two, as you said, identity troublemakers early, and send them packing.
Of course, both of these are easier said then done.
Naaah, really....how shocking.
I've debated with others on this forum whether or not US troops would fire on American citizens if ordered to do so by the 0bama regime. Kent State always comes to mind. Even if troops have no intention of doing so, when armed confrontation occurs in tense situations, the outcome is never certain.
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I was a college student in May 1970.
I joined the national guard in May 1971.
Those were some strange days, indeed they were.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that they had trashed the downtown area, too.
Think it’s possible that “csny” will put out a song about “Four dead in Benghazi”? “Tin president and hillary ain’t comin’. You’re finally on your own”. Animosity for the way I and many others were treated in uniform in the late ‘60’s/early ‘70’s? Yeah I got some feelin’s about that. Proud to have served? You bet your ass. Not proud of the way congress left the country and those serving twisting in the wind. As much as I dislike fdr, the one thing that he said rings true today. UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER! Them, not us. Wonder which way we’re going today.
You don't confront the troops; you locate and terminate THOSE WHO GIVE THEM THE ORDERS. Cut off the head, the snake will die.
FDR was terrible domestically, but he was a damn fine wartime President.
It was nationally stoked chaos.
Kent is normally a very sleep tight knit town.
The most iconic picture of the incident showed a girl kneeling over a student who had been shot. Ironically, she was not a student, but a 14 year old runaway from Florida who was hanging out on campus enjoying the demonstration activity.
I am surprised that nobody ever notices that "protests" of whatever nature or extent are never really "peaceful" They inevitably become a riot.) (Look at Seattle's recent Commie Day celebration.)
Because the Left employed the tactics the Bolsheviks used in 1917, always place plenty of “agent provocateurs” into the crowds.
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