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Repeal of DADT
Rfreedom4u

Posted on 05/10/2013 4:56:07 AM PDT by rfreedom4u

About two years ago while at Fort Carson our company commander was required to give all the NCO's a brief on the repeal of DADT. He told us to hold all questions until he finished. Here is my memory of the questions (all asked by me of course):

Me: Did the Army take into effect the crime statistics showing that homosexuals has higher rates of domestic violence?

CO: I do not know.

Me: What about the disease statistics showing that homosexuals have higher rates of STD's?

CO: I don't know.

Me: You stated that barracks room assignments would NOT be based on a Soldier's sexual preference. Does this mean you will place homosexuals in rooms with straight Soldiers?

CO: Yes. But no male/female room assignments.

Me: So are you saying it is ok to discriminate for room assignments based on gender but not preference?

CO: No. We will not discriminate at all.

Me: If you won't discriminate then why would you not place gay male Soldiers in rooms with straight female Soldiers or gay females in rooms with straight males? To me that sounds like discrimination.

CO: SFC (name), I didn't write the policy I was just told to read this to everyone.

Me: Did whomever write this do any research or put any thought into it?

CO: I don't know.

Me: Well, then whomever wrote it is an idiot.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: homesexualagenda; military; obama; vanity
I was the only person who asked any questions during this entire briefing. Afterward several other NCO's came to me and said I was correct regarding the discrimination issue. I expressed to many others on numerous occasions that I would not support the policy of repealing DADT. I have since retired and can now voice my opinions anytime I please.
1 posted on 05/10/2013 4:56:07 AM PDT by rfreedom4u
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To: rfreedom4u

good on you!


2 posted on 05/10/2013 4:58:38 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: rfreedom4u

Congratulations on your promotion.

Getting freedom of speech back is great, isn’t it?

(Signed, MSgt USAF, ret)


3 posted on 05/10/2013 5:00:49 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: rfreedom4u

Thank you for your service... and, thank you for your honesty in the face of the “idiocy”.


4 posted on 05/10/2013 5:01:51 AM PDT by moovova
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To: rfreedom4u

Bravo !


5 posted on 05/10/2013 5:03:56 AM PDT by tomkat ( yo! > tyrannis delenda est !)
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To: markomalley

I pretty much spoke my mind anyway. At my rank the only way to demote me was by court martial and they were too lazy to go through the process. I could tell from many conversations with others that they agreed with me.

I carried two copies of the US Constitution with me every day so that I could reference to them what I was talking about regarding other stuff. I told all my Soldiers to read it because they can’t “support and defend” it if they don’t know what’s in it.


6 posted on 05/10/2013 5:05:59 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: rfreedom4u

good for you.
I still have pals serving who are against it too. One soldier a few weeks ago got back from Afghanistan who said he saw his officer a couple of nights later after the repeal wearing a dress in the PX.

He said how could I give him respect after that and that was not the only issue he had.
he also said there is a case going on right now with homosexuals having sex and advances to straight normal men but the military is trying it’s best to keep it quiet over there.

People like Hannity said they supported the troops and yet when many of us vets tried to call him and tell him we oppose this and that the survey they sent out was bogus his screener and him refused to cover this issue like he refuses to cover any homosexual issues


7 posted on 05/10/2013 5:06:27 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: rfreedom4u

LOL. I remember a similar exchange between myself and a One Star in regard to the War on Drugs. It raised a couple eyebrows. I was never meant to be a career officer anyway. We used to say, “Never trust anyone above the rank of Major”. I guess that was why I didn’t go any further.


8 posted on 05/10/2013 5:14:40 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute; rfreedom4u
We used to say, “Never trust anyone above the rank of Major”.

I'd go one step lower, no to trust anyone above Captain.

(CPT/SFC, USArmy)

9 posted on 05/10/2013 5:19:49 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Old Sarge

How’s that gonna work? What senior NCO trusts an 03? Other than you, of course.


10 posted on 05/10/2013 5:40:55 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

The First Shirt trusts the CO, or things just don’t work.

I saw too many instances in company commands where either the CO was a martinet, or the NCOIC was a douche.

Besides, everyone knows you when you want something done, you talk the the E-4 who actually does the job.


11 posted on 05/10/2013 5:50:38 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: rfreedom4u

Great questions, but if I were to go to the one making the decision, they are probably deaf, dumb and blind to truth because they don’t think truth exists anymore.


12 posted on 05/10/2013 6:18:05 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: manc

Because Vannity is worse than the shrill Coulter. It is all about making money not saving this republic.


13 posted on 05/10/2013 6:27:46 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

I honestly think Hannity and Coulter are just as bad as each other.

if they cared about this country they would have spoken up not just about debt which is a safe option for them but also homosexual agenda, marriage, don’t ask, adoption, family, hell Baltimore dept of education is now saying they do not say mother and father and all forms have spouse one and two on it now./

All about their elitist pals, living in a cocktail party elitist world and money for them while us shmucks have to put up with their ignorance and left wing laws in our communities and neighborhoods


14 posted on 05/10/2013 6:39:47 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Old Sarge

You made me laugh! Thank you.


15 posted on 05/10/2013 6:49:03 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Old Sarge
Besides, everyone knows you when you want something done, you talk the the E-4 who actually does the job.

When I was a 1LT, I referred to my E-4 clerk as my SPIC. Got a few interesting responses until I told them it meant "specialist in charge."

16 posted on 05/10/2013 7:00:25 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: manc

Hannity is a shill for the establishment GOP, nothing more.


17 posted on 05/10/2013 7:02:12 AM PDT by turducken
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To: rfreedom4u

Thank you for your service and willingness to say what most sane people were (are) thinking.


18 posted on 05/10/2013 7:02:29 AM PDT by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: Old Sarge
Besides, everyone knows you when you want something done, you talk the the E-4 who actually does the job.

I had a Towed Vulcan platoon (late 70s) that had three "Acting Jack" squad leaders (Spec 4's). My other SL was an E-5. We were the only platoon in the battery to pass our ARTEP (Tac Eval).

The day before it started, I got them together and told them why, to a man, they were better than the other platoons. By then, I'd been through multiple evaluations as a Platoon Leader, and knew what the evaluators focused on. Piece of cake...

19 posted on 05/10/2013 7:02:31 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: RedHeeler
What senior NCO trusts an 03? Other than you, of course.

Depends on the O3. For example, when I was appointed Battalion S-4 (as an 1LT), my NCOs knew me from 2+ years in the battalion, 6 months filling in as the Bn Property Book Officer, and they learned my Bachelors Degree was in Public Accounting.

We worked well as a team, and we never took any crap from higher HQ. The "old man" had my back on that.

Trust and respect have to go in both directions for a unit to work.

I remember an ARTEP/tac eval where our 1st Sgt was new, but he had 26 years in the Army, 3 tours in Viet Nam, all in the infantry. He comes up to me, says "sir, I don't know jack about ADA." I said, "Top, you know how to run a company size CP, right? Let me worry about the ADA BS, and we'll be fine."

We were doing great, until the BC sent wrong coordinates to one of the platoons. The platoon leader didn't question them, even though his Vulcan platoon was given a 10KM long route defense (Vulcan's max effective range was 1KM). Almost cost us the whole thing.

20 posted on 05/10/2013 7:18:17 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: turducken

truest post this week, well said.

He;s the establishment talking head wo pretends to be us


21 posted on 05/10/2013 7:18:20 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeaHawkFan
The politically correct version of "Specialist-In-Charge" is SPCIC.

Pronounced the same, but looked better on official correspondence...

22 posted on 05/10/2013 7:22:10 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Night Hides Not

23 posted on 05/10/2013 7:23:03 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Old Sarge

I look at LDOs (Limited Duty Officer)differently. Fortunately, thats all we have in my MOS. I dont much like Officers, but Ive served with some really good ones along the way.


24 posted on 05/10/2013 10:02:12 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: TheGunny

Being a retired CWO I’m partial to that breed of soldier. Used to be you got to be a WO by being a technical expert. Do not know how it is done today. I’ve been retired a LONG time. Semper Fi Gunny!


25 posted on 05/10/2013 11:55:49 AM PDT by Baron 2A (Those that can, do; those who can't, teach; those who do neither become journalists!)
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To: rfreedom4u

Nice work there. Thanks for posting.


26 posted on 05/10/2013 11:58:25 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Baron 2A

Sir, as far as the criteria for selection to WO goes, it is supposed to be exactly that. They are suposedly the “technical experts” and routinely pulled from the SNCO ranks.
Semper Fi!


27 posted on 05/11/2013 2:55:48 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: Baron 2A

BTW, thank you for your service! I cant wait to be retired:o) 4 more years! I wont have BS’ signature on my retirement certificate. Semper Fi!


28 posted on 05/11/2013 2:57:18 AM PDT by TheGunny
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