If understand this correctly, Ca just screwed the pooch. Either gun manufacturers will produce guns with microstamping technology and sell in Ca or it will not be possible to purchase a semi-auto pistol in Ca.
Watch Ny, Ct, Nj, Md, and Co fall in line.
This law is hideously stupid. The microstamping can be filed down. A firing pin can be replaced. Or you can simply shoot cases into a bag. Liberals are so effing stupid. By way, I have an extra Beretta 92fs firing pin for sale ($449). Just kidding.
“By way, I have an extra Beretta 92fs firing pin for sale ($449)”
Sell it on Amazon LOL
posted on 05/17/2013 7:00:19 PM PDT
by max americana
(fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
I haven’t missed the beaches in several years.
"This law is hideously stupid. The microstamping can be filed down. A firing pin can be replaced. Or you can simply shoot cases into a bag."
Or buy a revolver...
posted on 05/17/2013 7:06:35 PM PDT
by Joe 6-pack
(Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
Following the issuance of the Department of Justice's certification, the provisions of Penal Code section 31910, subdivision (b)(7)(A) are in immediate effect. Therefore, to be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale in California, a semiautomatic pistol must be equipped with microstamping technology-i.e., a microscopic array of characters that identify the make, model, and serial number ofthe pistol, etched or otherwise imprinted in two or more places on the interior surface or internal working parts ofthe pistol, and that are transferred by imprinting on each cartridge case when the firearm is fired. (Pen. Code,§ 31910, subd. (b)(7)(A).) Semiautomatic pistols already listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale in California will remain on the roster and need not incorporate the microstamping technology provided that the firearms comply with Penal Code sections 32015, 32020, and 32030.
Read that as no new tech for Ca gun owners. Existing guns are grandfathered. It will be interesting to see how updates to existing pistols will be effected.
posted on 05/17/2013 7:10:38 PM PDT
(Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
So, who exactly has this miraculous, fool proof, patent-free technology?
posted on 05/17/2013 7:22:10 PM PDT
( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
This is BS! “If we don’t hang together, we will hang separately”.
posted on 05/17/2013 7:26:57 PM PDT
(God, guns, guts.)
And to think, back in 1982 the voters of California turned down Proposition 15 which would have banned handguns in California.
Since that day the anti gunners have been working overtime trying to find ways around the will of the people.
Can’t ban handguns? limit magazine capacities, Ban certain frame metals. ban lead bullets. ban certain style features. Force new “drop tests” on them.
Now, require microstamping of all handguns! make it illegal to have a non microstamped firearm. Nibble, nibble nibble.
It never ends.
posted on 05/17/2013 7:29:04 PM PDT
by Ruy Dias de Bivar
(When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
This is as much about paperworking and captial-draining the manufacturers that have to adapt this and potentially sell a California Version and a Non-California Version.
Frig-Um, If I was a Hand-Gun Manufacturer I'd pull out of this market and any other that enacts this encroaching insanity.
posted on 05/17/2013 7:31:44 PM PDT
(( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
I doubt that there ever will be a “straw that broke the camels back” in Californicate before universal government mandated involuntary servitude is implemented there.
posted on 05/17/2013 7:35:44 PM PDT
(IRS/Obamacare Death Panels selection criteria ....Tea Party, Patriot, 9/12, Constitution,...)
posted on 05/17/2013 7:46:57 PM PDT
(Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
I don't own or plan to buy a semiauto handgun, but if a class action suit against the dystopic, Late Great State of California is organized, I would like to join, both nominally and financially.
The power to "register," as we are seeing currently with "the power to tax," is the power to destroy.
posted on 05/17/2013 7:50:06 PM PDT
(Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
Do revolvers have to have microstamping too?
posted on 05/17/2013 7:50:30 PM PDT
by E. Pluribus Unum
(Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
This law is hideously stupid. The microstamping can be filed down. A firing pin can be replaced.
Of course, they don't say how much new manufacturing equipment will cost for the privilege of doing business in CA. But I see a market for some entrepreneur to make microstamped firing pins with custom witty sayings on them, just like AR15 dust covers. :)
I wonder how much money, time, and paperwork has been spent on all those fired cases that must be sent to the police in those states that demand that? If they had even one "blind squirrel" success with that, they'd have touted it for weeks, and started a campaign for "voluntary" submission of empties from all guns.
posted on 05/17/2013 8:01:34 PM PDT
(Whatever CAN go wrong has already happened. We just don't know about it yet.)
Do the idiots who came up with the law expect gang bangers to buy a pistol with microstamping registered to them and then use it in a crime?
posted on 05/17/2013 8:06:01 PM PDT
by Blood of Tyrants
(Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
When you go to sleep a free man and wake up as a criminal without doing anything....that's the definition of tyranny
posted on 05/17/2013 8:07:21 PM PDT
by Newbomb Turk
("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
Okay Kamilla. Feel free to tell us specifically what patent free technology you are talking about and demanding .
As it is you are being very vague about it and I don’t think it will stand a challenge gun.
posted on 05/17/2013 11:26:15 PM PDT
(Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
There appears to be some possible scam going on, as, the state of calif appears to have deemed that there are now two methods of microstamping available for use, thus, the microstamping law may now come into force. In the letter authorizing this, the state DOES NOT PROVIDE SOURCES FOR WHAT THESE MICROSTAMPING METHODS OR TECHNOLOGIES ARE.
as far as I know, no new microstamping technology has been introduced, and the deeming by the state seems to be just like what the government did with deeming obamacare passed.
in addition: FOR MICROSTAMPING TO BE EFFECTIVE, THE FIREARM, AND THE MICROSTAMPED SERIAL NUMBER, MUST BE REGISTARED TO THE OWNER - basically mandatory registration.
Therefore - it would be to everyone’s best interest, to push firearms manufactures to NOT PRODUCE MICROSTAMPED FIREARMS and drop the california market.
Why?...... because, once california gets away with microstamping and firearms registration, it will go nationwide....
think about it....
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