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The government employees were going after taxpayers! The TEA Party needs to run with this!

Cruz Calls for Abolishing IRS, Moving to ‘Simple Flat Tax’

Don't miss the forest for the trees, or let an opportunity go to waste. I'd prefer a national sales tax, with exceptions for real food and medicine.

The TEA Party should not fail to ram a stake through the heart of the statists and their progressive agenda! It's time to dismantle the IRS, Obamacare and the Department of Education, off the top of my head. That's just for starters.

1 posted on 06/03/2013 11:02:56 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The problem with a national sales tax is that rent seekers would forever be lobbying congress to exempt their products. This put politicians right back where we don’t want them, trading favors for campaign cash

It’s also a burden on business, making them the tax collector for the man.

I prefer a flat tax for these reasons.


2 posted on 06/03/2013 11:20:46 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police canÂ’t solve a problem with brute force, theyÂ’ll find a way to fix it with brute forc)
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To: neverdem
I'd prefer a national sales tax, with exceptions for real food and medicine.

With the size of the tax, there will be a black market the size of Montana, just as there already is with cigarettes and alcohol. With a black market that big, the government will become an active participant in EVERY transaction, even barter. If you don't want government intrusion, why do you want that?

3 posted on 06/03/2013 11:23:57 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: neverdem
But my friend got to the essence. He wrote, “The left likes to say, ‘Watergate was worse!’ Watergate was bad—don’t get me wrong. But it was elites using the machinery of government to spy on elites. . . . It’s something quite different when elites use the machinery of government against ordinary people. It’s a whole different ball game.”

This is very close to a point I've been making when people compare Benghazi to Watergate (often even having the nerve to say Watergate was WORSE!!).

In Benghazi, people died due to real-time incompetence/dereliction of duty on the part of responsible people. In Watergate, a POTUS concealed AFTER THE FACT a burglary, the victims of which were merely other politicians, barely even sentient organisms. Certainly not on a par with the value of the life, or even the inconveniencing, of a private citizen.

BUT...since Nixon was a Republican (and kind of a paranoid dick), Watergate was a big deal.

4 posted on 06/03/2013 11:24:58 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: neverdem

Great article. Great point that the IRS is going after US.

Sorry, but promoting the flat tax as a response misses the point entirely. Remember that they are also using the ATF, OSHA, EPA, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera!

There is something very serious going on here and you want to play whack-a-mole with the Federal alphabet agencies?!

Now is the time to go after the head of the octopus, not cut of an arm.


6 posted on 06/03/2013 11:31:30 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: neverdem

Peggy Noon an

Regardless

Part of the problem not the solution

An emotive beltway woman daft to the winds of discontent


11 posted on 06/04/2013 12:11:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: neverdem; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; Voter#537; ...

The only way to abolish the IRS is to replace the income tax with a National Retail Sales Tax, like the FairTax.

A “Flat Tax” is still an income tax, and the IRS would remain large and intrusive, even in the “Flat Tax” world. IOW, as long as Americans are required to report their income to the government, there would be government poobahs interested in finding out who was telling the truth about their income.

In the FairTax regime, Americans would be encouraged and rewarded for earning as much money as they were capable of, and taxed on it when and only when they consumed it.

Imagine that! Having the FReedom to work, earn, save and invest without government interference!

How much money a working person earned would be nobody’s business but the working person!

The real issue is FReedom, folks.

All else is window dressing.

To find out for yourself how the FairTax works, check it out at http://www.fairtax.org.

We simply must not let this opportunity to abolish the IRS pass us by!


14 posted on 06/04/2013 3:04:03 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: neverdem

Bump


17 posted on 06/04/2013 3:27:53 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: neverdem

If a scandal erupts in DC and nobody in the MSM covers it, is it still a scandal?


20 posted on 06/04/2013 3:53:17 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: neverdem

Well duh, Noonan. How did you and your friends miss this for so long? Try reading FR or talking to some real conservatives instead of living in your own little echo chamber of elites.


26 posted on 06/04/2013 4:31:25 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: neverdem

She still missed the mark. The IRS treachery is about userption of power to increase the power to maintain the tyranny.

The IRS treachery is about destruction of the Republic. By stealing the election, there is no more Republic. It has been stole. The crime is against the Republic. There is no scandal, there is horrendous crime.

The punishment must be death. No less apunishment can be meted out for such tremendous crime against the Republic.

The unanswered question is “ who will lead the Coup”


31 posted on 06/04/2013 5:04:39 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....Obama Denies Role in Government)
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To: neverdem

Peggy, your paragraphs haven’t worked since about 1989...


32 posted on 06/04/2013 5:09:13 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: neverdem

The most sure-fire way to blow this is to try to use it as a political vehicle to change the tax system.


38 posted on 06/04/2013 5:56:59 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: neverdem

Fox news is the only network covering the IRS hearings. MSNBC and CNN have BO on whining about how long it takes for his judicial nominations to be approved. He is appointing three DC judges - and this is of utmost importance. Lamestream media continues protect BO.


41 posted on 06/04/2013 7:31:59 AM PDT by austingirl
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To: neverdem

On Noonan’s article on the WSJ site she has a link to a youtube video of an entire Cincinnati Tea Party meeting on the subject of the IRS. I watched the whole thing and found it inspiring. I recommend it to anyone who wants a battery charge. The last speaker was an impressive gentleman from Freedom Works. I believe I shall look into that organization. Maybe there is something useful I can contribute that way.


43 posted on 06/04/2013 8:03:22 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: neverdem
A part of me is stunned Washington elites look down on citizens. But one look around Washington tells the story. These folks vote the best for themselves - museums, concert halls, buildings that would make the ancient Greeks blush.

And those fancy places aren't for us - they cheer when money's tight enough they can close down the White House and everything else to citizens. Elites don't want the great unwashed their city. What jerks. The their pay - almost all the top income zip codes are around Washington DC. These folks only want the best for themselves. And they get it.

It would probably be difficult to scam people you respected - so they've chosen to look down on us. It's a defense to keep from seeing who they've really become.

66 posted on 06/05/2013 4:33:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: neverdem
Valerie Jarrett.

Even though I don't like Noonan.

5.56mm

79 posted on 06/06/2013 5:35:29 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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