Skip to comments.1,021 drivers stopped at Burbank DUI checkpoint; 0 were drunk
Posted on 06/04/2013 5:00:23 AM PDT by relictele
A sobriety checkpoint in Burbank on Saturday that screened 1,021 drivers yielded zero arrests, police reported.
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The key figure - beyond the zero arrest rate - is the $31,500. Government and its sympathizers think 'grant' sounds better and more altruistic than 'handout' or 'kickback.' But zero arrests mean zero fines - so the cash is strictly to cover police overtime for these exercises in East German nostalgia.
?????...sounds like a Mexican bribe stop.
Back in my drunk driving days, I would have never been caught in a checkpoint because I avoided main roads.
So it worked.
If it keeps illegals off the road, I’m for it. Most DUI checkpoints are a boon around here but they don’t do them often because it results in too many Mexican getting arrested
It’s like the TSA — they don’t necessarily want to find anyone who is misbehaving; they just want to let the law-abiding citizens know that they are being watched and that the government could crush them at any time, so you best be a good sheep and do as you are told.
Correlation, not causation. Schoolboy error.
You apparently haven't paid attention to the coverage of mobile phone users warning each other of such checkpoints which also contributes to their futility and has the fine-addicted 'authorities' hopping mad.
But those are just details. Are there any other Constitutional rights you'd like to dispose of? It's more efficient to do it all at once.
No test for drugs, hallucinogens or marijuana were administered.
I would report the police stop on my free waze app (Iphone) so others using it while driving can just find a road around it. Maybe take a picture or two also.
Beward that holding any device while driving in CA is illegal.
Amazing that crime cesspool (craphole) Van Nuys is just a few miles away from Burbank and where is the police stop?
Look for authoritative figures to hem and haw in a while that this isn't possible, or wouldn't happen, then watch it occur regularly a couple years down the road.
Remember Seat Belt Laws. Gutless excrement feeders (Politicians) swore to high heaven you would never be able to be pulled over just for that, and a few years later that happened.
I guess Lindsey Lohan wasn’t driving that night?
The fact that none were found is merely proof that they need to expand the operation.
Yup; those were the days! NOT! (How did I manage to live through them?)
You know I was in Chile and Argentina back in the 1990’s They did alot of DUI stops. “Your papers and your registration please.” Hmmm
The check-points closed up at closing time, 2:00 am.
After all, we all know that Canadians are constantly sneaking across the border to work as landscapers, hotel maids, dishwashers, and other similar occupations. That's why French is becoming a common language in many industries across America.
Yep...so turn in those guns...if if it saves just one little kid...it’s worth it. Screw that 2nd amendment!
Find drivers license in the Constitution. You can’t because it isn’t a right. And a checkpoint doesn’t take anyway anything. You are just waving the bloody shirt with the ridiculous gun analogy.
You don’t have the right to come into the country illegally and kill us by driving drunk.
Cops in my county just outside of NYC spent their time last week checking to see if motorists had their seat belts on.
The first two times they stopped my car at an expressway off ramp, and I did have my seat belt on. The third time they stopped my car, it was two blocks from my house and right before I was about to buckle up. They gave me a $130 ticket.
Isnt government great.
Are they killing off the “hospitality industry” or just shifting it. In my “urban” area, they’ve killed the “local” sports bar/tavern type business; but every friday, every freeway outa town is packed. Anyone who can, gets out for the weekend. Nice place to “work” but no one wants to live here.
Oh Lord. Next you’ll be telling me that the government is spraying you from airplanes.
Mr Hyperbole is not always your friend.
With more and more people on their heels, the always-intented mission creep for a “DUI checkpoint” is now to catch broke drivers who’ve lost their license and steal their cars. Looks like that didn’t pan out either this time.
The ruling yesterday was for arrests for violent crimes, but yeah that will be defined down to loitering (”probably a lookout for a terrorist cell”) soon enough.
This is in fact a very Libertarian argument: how does the State reserve unto itself the authority to tell me whether I can travel or not? Did they take it upon themselves in 1780 to "allow" you to drive your own carriage from Philadelphia to Baltimore?
If it keeps illegals off the road, Im for it. Most DUI checkpoints are a boon around here but they dont do them often because it results in too many Mexican getting arrested
Re-read the story. Out of over 1000 people stopped “randomly” by the cops in Southern California, NO arrests were made.
Apparently, NONE were illegal aliens?
OK, so NONE were drunk drivers....
But NONE were wanted by the cops for warrants or bail offenses or driving without a license?
NONE carrying drugs?
NONE were smoking marijuana or already high on meth or speed?
Where did they do the traffic stop? At the exit of a nuclear power plant after shift change? Did they "catch-and-release" all of the illegal aliens they did find to appease Obama's constituencies in the DOJ and HSA?
Properly said, your post would read: “You don’t have the right to come into this country illegally.” Do you notice the period and end quotes?
So, that being the case, since you are willing to give up your right to free travel, for the stated purpose of catching/confining/deporting those who are in the country illegally, would you also be willing to allow the institution of random house checks/inspections by police too?
Think of it, all of the illegals, not to mention drug dealers, even the occasional kidnapper might be apprehended. And for the small price of the privacy of your home.
Yep. California is a lost state.
I swear all those crepe shops in Albany are all about the same.
Already done in NY, except from helicopters.
I find it under the 9th amendment, in the Bill of Rights:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
I have a right to go from point A to point B without being stopped and hassled by the police without cause. The 4th amendment was instituted to prohibit these kinds of 'fishing expeditions' by the government. You want a police state? Then please go somewhere else.
Once again, you guys blow the situation completely out of control. It’s like dealing with teenage girls. You rely completely on hysterical emotion to make your point instead of thinking rationally.
A checkpoint does not deny you the right to travel freely UNLESS you are breaking the law. I’ve been through plenty of them and never had a problem. Stopping at a DUI checkpoint is not the same as getting in a boxcar for a concentration camp or stormtroopers kicking in your door looking for Jews. Put a tampon in it, people.
In your world, the greatest threat to you is a DUI checkpoint. In my world, that is not the case. The greater threat is the drunk illegal. They cause accidents all the time and kill people here every year.
Welcome home, and thank you for your service
And you don’t have the right to stop and harass the citizenry without cause when they are merely going about their daily business. It doesn’t matter if they are driving or walking.
I bet you were pissed when West Germany absorbed East Germany and not vice-versa.
I am not convinced that Sitz and Martinez-Fuerte were correctly decided. Indeed, I rather doubt that the Framers of the Fourth Amendment would have considered "reasonable" a program of indiscriminate stops of individuals not suspected of wrongdoing.
--Justice Clarence Thomas, dissenting opinion, Indianapolis v. Edmond
By that logic it should be OK for any person or group to set up a checkpoint. So, for example, residents of a neighborhood could just stop everyone who drives through to see what they are up to. No problem with that right? You wouldn't mind waiting in line would you?
BFS! Forcing an entire road to stop without probable cause DENIES EVERYONE THE RIGHT TO TRAVEL FREELY. F all the statists that support such things.
Just last weekend I was driving on the Belt Pkwy here in NYC and they shut down the whole damn highway for a checkpoint! 3 lanes of highway crawling for a damn Nazi fishing expedition!
I did nothing wrong and lost an hour of my time so these idiots can collect revenue. In more civilized times, I would loudly complain at the stop.
However, todays scumbag stormtroopers will plant drugs if you act smart. Even if you somehow prove it, the NYPD will let them walk: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095772/Cowboy-cop-Jason-Arbeeny-planted-crack-couples-car-seat-escapes-jail.html
Chilling. Did you follow that case closely? How could (did) some random “civilian” prove it was planted? That’s about as tough a case against “the blue wall” as I can imagine.
Around here, Alabama, most check points are on side roads. Had one on main state highway going thru next town by local cops, and stopped several hundred after work drinkers.over 150 were detained,also ONE lawyer. Law here requires state
approval and state patrol present on state highways All charges dropped.
Took lawyer several days to find and report law, made newspaper.
=’s loss of liberty.
The story is a lab tech noticed drugs missing/diluted in evidence storage. He/she started microengraving crack rocks with some random identifiers. After a while the lab was getting the same rocks back for new cases. The tech narrowed it down to the cops involved and reported it.
These types of cases happen all the time. I know someone who managed to get video of a cop planting drugs in his car. The case was dismissed but the cop didn't get disciplined at all.
The WOD enables law enforcement to plant a coin sized package on anyone and turn them info a felon at will. I don't understand how so many FReepers don't see this legal barn door...
No, it is a detention and no, an officer cannot do a DNA swab on a traffic stop.
Much obliged. These guys were lucky, given that they had already gotten the full treatment, that it was so widespread that there were even people within the department thinking something was up.
My initial fears remain: if it’s just one guy planting stuff on you once, I don’t know how your word would beat his. Even with little cameras in your car, it would still be luck to actually see or hear the plant as it happened.
The “grant” comes from traffic fines and not from the state budget.
Your word will never beat a cop’s and they know it.
The mantra inside the NYPD is “do whatever you need to do. Just not on camera”.
Again, then you should have NO Problem with a house to house round up of these people (similar to recent events in Boston).
MY perceived threats are an over reaching, increasingly totalitarian government.
Let that yoke rest easy on your shoulders.
most dui checkpoints have “chase vehicles” to go after those who do a u-turn to avoid the hassle or delay.
in the courts you are “guilty until proven guilty”.
And if 0 drivers are fined as happened here, what then?