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1,021 drivers stopped at Burbank DUI checkpoint; 0 were drunk
Los Angeles Times ^ | 03 June 2013 | Alene Tchekmedyian

Posted on 06/04/2013 5:00:23 AM PDT by relictele

A sobriety checkpoint in Burbank on Saturday that screened 1,021 drivers yielded zero arrests, police reported.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: checkpoint; dui
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This anti-Constitutional tactic always bore meager fruit and now technology and a poor economy (aided by police tactics killing off the hospitality industry) are producing a big goose egg.

The key figure - beyond the zero arrest rate - is the $31,500. Government and its sympathizers think 'grant' sounds better and more altruistic than 'handout' or 'kickback.' But zero arrests mean zero fines - so the cash is strictly to cover police overtime for these exercises in East German nostalgia.

1 posted on 06/04/2013 5:00:23 AM PDT by relictele
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To: relictele

?????...sounds like a Mexican bribe stop.


2 posted on 06/04/2013 5:02:19 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: relictele

Back in my drunk driving days, I would have never been caught in a checkpoint because I avoided main roads.


3 posted on 06/04/2013 5:04:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: relictele

So it worked.

If it keeps illegals off the road, I’m for it. Most DUI checkpoints are a boon around here but they don’t do them often because it results in too many Mexican getting arrested


4 posted on 06/04/2013 5:06:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: relictele

It’s like the TSA — they don’t necessarily want to find anyone who is misbehaving; they just want to let the law-abiding citizens know that they are being watched and that the government could crush them at any time, so you best be a good sheep and do as you are told.


5 posted on 06/04/2013 5:08:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: AppyPappy
So it worked.

Correlation, not causation. Schoolboy error.

You apparently haven't paid attention to the coverage of mobile phone users warning each other of such checkpoints which also contributes to their futility and has the fine-addicted 'authorities' hopping mad.

But those are just details. Are there any other Constitutional rights you'd like to dispose of? It's more efficient to do it all at once.

6 posted on 06/04/2013 5:09:43 AM PDT by relictele (A place dedicated to economic, racial and social equality. It was called Jonestown.)
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To: AppyPappy
So it worked. If it keeps illegals off the road, I’m for it.
Yeah, screw that Constitution, Americans don't need it as long as we stop the illegals.
Same mentality as the anti-gun loons ... take away the 2nd Amendment and we'll stop "gun violence."
7 posted on 06/04/2013 5:21:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: relictele

No test for drugs, hallucinogens or marijuana were administered.


8 posted on 06/04/2013 5:23:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: relictele

I would report the police stop on my free waze app (Iphone) so others using it while driving can just find a road around it. Maybe take a picture or two also.

Beward that holding any device while driving in CA is illegal.

Amazing that crime cesspool (craphole) Van Nuys is just a few miles away from Burbank and where is the police stop?


9 posted on 06/04/2013 5:26:02 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Yea, but you can technically get swabbed (DNA) for it now, because in CA a traffic stop is an arrest.

Look for authoritative figures to hem and haw in a while that this isn't possible, or wouldn't happen, then watch it occur regularly a couple years down the road.

Remember Seat Belt Laws. Gutless excrement feeders (Politicians) swore to high heaven you would never be able to be pulled over just for that, and a few years later that happened.

10 posted on 06/04/2013 5:34:59 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: relictele

I guess Lindsey Lohan wasn’t driving that night?


11 posted on 06/04/2013 5:35:08 AM PDT by Wingy
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To: relictele

The fact that none were found is merely proof that they need to expand the operation.


12 posted on 06/04/2013 5:35:14 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yup; those were the days! NOT! (How did I manage to live through them?)


13 posted on 06/04/2013 5:35:42 AM PDT by pingman (Trust a lib? Surely you jest!)
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To: relictele

You know I was in Chile and Argentina back in the 1990’s They did alot of DUI stops. “Your papers and your registration please.” Hmmm


14 posted on 06/04/2013 5:36:15 AM PDT by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: Wingy
I guess Lindsey Lohan wasn’t driving that night?

The check-points closed up at closing time, 2:00 am.

15 posted on 06/04/2013 5:39:00 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: relictele
I believe the current mobile devices plus social media will render this sort of operation fairly useless in the near future, if not already.

CC

16 posted on 06/04/2013 5:41:24 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: relictele
That's nothing compared to the millions of dollars the federal government spends to maintain a checkpoint on I-91 just south of White River Junction in Vermont. Apparently they think stopping tens of thousands of cars in the middle of Vermont, 100 miles from the Canadian border, is a good way to find illegal immigrants.

After all, we all know that Canadians are constantly sneaking across the border to work as landscapers, hotel maids, dishwashers, and other similar occupations. That's why French is becoming a common language in many industries across America.

17 posted on 06/04/2013 5:46:06 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: AppyPappy

Yep...so turn in those guns...if if it saves just one little kid...it’s worth it. Screw that 2nd amendment!


18 posted on 06/04/2013 5:46:43 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: oh8eleven

Find drivers license in the Constitution. You can’t because it isn’t a right. And a checkpoint doesn’t take anyway anything. You are just waving the bloody shirt with the ridiculous gun analogy.
You don’t have the right to come into the country illegally and kill us by driving drunk.


19 posted on 06/04/2013 5:48:12 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: relictele

Cops in my county just outside of NYC spent their time last week checking to see if motorists had their seat belts on.

The first two times they stopped my car at an expressway off ramp, and I did have my seat belt on. The third time they stopped my car, it was two blocks from my house and right before I was about to buckle up. They gave me a $130 ticket.

Isn’t government great.

Unbelievable.


20 posted on 06/04/2013 5:59:37 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: AppyPappy
And a checkpoint doesn’t take anyway anything.
Are you for feckin' real? On FREE Republic?
21 posted on 06/04/2013 5:59:49 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: relictele

Are they killing off the “hospitality industry” or just shifting it. In my “urban” area, they’ve killed the “local” sports bar/tavern type business; but every friday, every freeway outa town is packed. Anyone who can, gets out for the weekend. Nice place to “work” but no one wants to live here.


22 posted on 06/04/2013 6:00:01 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: oh8eleven

Oh Lord. Next you’ll be telling me that the government is spraying you from airplanes.
Mr Hyperbole is not always your friend.


23 posted on 06/04/2013 6:10:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: relictele

With more and more people on their heels, the always-intented mission creep for a “DUI checkpoint” is now to catch broke drivers who’ve lost their license and steal their cars. Looks like that didn’t pan out either this time.


24 posted on 06/04/2013 6:15:04 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: AppyPappy
Next you’ll be telling me that the government is spraying you from airplanes.
They already did - Agent Orange, 1967-1968.
25 posted on 06/04/2013 6:15:57 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Axenolith

The ruling yesterday was for arrests for violent crimes, but yeah that will be defined down to loitering (”probably a lookout for a terrorist cell”) soon enough.


26 posted on 06/04/2013 6:17:36 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: AppyPappy
Find drivers license in the Constitution. You can’t because it isn’t a right.

This is in fact a very Libertarian argument: how does the State reserve unto itself the authority to tell me whether I can travel or not? Did they take it upon themselves in 1780 to "allow" you to drive your own carriage from Philadelphia to Baltimore?

27 posted on 06/04/2013 6:22:22 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: AppyPappy; relictele; narses; neverdem; SunkenCiv; Nachum
So it worked.

If it keeps illegals off the road, I’m for it. Most DUI checkpoints are a boon around here but they don’t do them often because it results in too many Mexican getting arrested

Re-read the story. Out of over 1000 people stopped “randomly” by the cops in Southern California, NO arrests were made.

Apparently, NONE were illegal aliens?

OK, so NONE were drunk drivers....

But NONE were wanted by the cops for warrants or bail offenses or driving without a license?
NONE carrying drugs?
NONE were smoking marijuana or already high on meth or speed?

Where did they do the traffic stop? At the exit of a nuclear power plant after shift change? Did they "catch-and-release" all of the illegal aliens they did find to appease Obama's constituencies in the DOJ and HSA?

28 posted on 06/04/2013 6:22:23 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: AppyPappy

Properly said, your post would read: “You don’t have the right to come into this country illegally.” Do you notice the period and end quotes?

So, that being the case, since you are willing to give up your right to free travel, for the stated purpose of catching/confining/deporting those who are in the country illegally, would you also be willing to allow the institution of random house checks/inspections by police too?

Think of it, all of the illegals, not to mention drug dealers, even the occasional kidnapper might be apprehended. And for the small price of the privacy of your home.


29 posted on 06/04/2013 6:24:19 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: Axenolith

Yep. California is a lost state.

LLS


30 posted on 06/04/2013 6:24:31 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: freeandfreezing

I swear all those crepe shops in Albany are all about the same.


31 posted on 06/04/2013 6:26:25 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: AppyPappy
Oh Lord. Next you’ll be telling me that the government is spraying you from airplanes.

Already done in NY, except from helicopters.

32 posted on 06/04/2013 6:27:10 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: AppyPappy
Find drivers license in the Constitution. You can’t because it isn’t a right.

I find it under the 9th amendment, in the Bill of Rights:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

I have a right to go from point A to point B without being stopped and hassled by the police without cause. The 4th amendment was instituted to prohibit these kinds of 'fishing expeditions' by the government. You want a police state? Then please go somewhere else.

33 posted on 06/04/2013 6:35:56 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: RoadGumby

Once again, you guys blow the situation completely out of control. It’s like dealing with teenage girls. You rely completely on hysterical emotion to make your point instead of thinking rationally.
A checkpoint does not deny you the right to travel freely UNLESS you are breaking the law. I’ve been through plenty of them and never had a problem. Stopping at a DUI checkpoint is not the same as getting in a boxcar for a concentration camp or stormtroopers kicking in your door looking for Jews. Put a tampon in it, people.
In your world, the greatest threat to you is a DUI checkpoint. In my world, that is not the case. The greater threat is the drunk illegal. They cause accidents all the time and kill people here every year.


34 posted on 06/04/2013 6:45:15 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: oh8eleven

Welcome home, and thank you for your service


35 posted on 06/04/2013 6:53:23 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: AppyPappy

And you don’t have the right to stop and harass the citizenry without cause when they are merely going about their daily business. It doesn’t matter if they are driving or walking.

I bet you were pissed when West Germany absorbed East Germany and not vice-versa.


36 posted on 06/04/2013 6:59:00 AM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: relictele
I am not convinced that Sitz and Martinez-Fuerte were correctly decided. Indeed, I rather doubt that the Framers of the Fourth Amendment would have considered "reasonable" a program of indiscriminate stops of individuals not suspected of wrongdoing.

--Justice Clarence Thomas, dissenting opinion, Indianapolis v. Edmond

37 posted on 06/04/2013 7:01:05 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: AppyPappy
A checkpoint does not deny you the right to travel freely UNLESS you are breaking the law. I’ve been through plenty of them and never had a problem.

By that logic it should be OK for any person or group to set up a checkpoint. So, for example, residents of a neighborhood could just stop everyone who drives through to see what they are up to. No problem with that right? You wouldn't mind waiting in line would you?

38 posted on 06/04/2013 7:04:54 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: AppyPappy; RoadGumby
“A checkpoint does not deny you the right to travel freely UNLESS you are breaking the law.”

BFS! Forcing an entire road to stop without probable cause DENIES EVERYONE THE RIGHT TO TRAVEL FREELY. F all the statists that support such things.

Just last weekend I was driving on the Belt Pkwy here in NYC and they shut down the whole damn highway for a checkpoint! 3 lanes of highway crawling for a damn Nazi fishing expedition!

I did nothing wrong and lost an hour of my time so these idiots can collect revenue. In more civilized times, I would loudly complain at the stop.

However, today’s scumbag stormtroopers will plant drugs if you act “smart”. Even if you somehow prove it, the NYPD will let them walk: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095772/Cowboy-cop-Jason-Arbeeny-planted-crack-couples-car-seat-escapes-jail.html

39 posted on 06/04/2013 7:08:56 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

Chilling. Did you follow that case closely? How could (did) some random “civilian” prove it was planted? That’s about as tough a case against “the blue wall” as I can imagine.


40 posted on 06/04/2013 7:15:33 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: cripplecreek

Around here, Alabama, most check points are on side roads. Had one on main state highway going thru next town by local cops, and stopped several hundred after work drinkers.over 150 were detained,also ONE lawyer. Law here requires state
approval and state patrol present on state highways All charges dropped.
Took lawyer several days to find and report law, made newspaper.


41 posted on 06/04/2013 7:15:59 AM PDT by TweetEBird007
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To: Doogle
DUI checkpoints, IRS, FBI, OSHA, EPA sicked on folks, surveillance drones, webs of cameras, TSA, DHS, Patriot Act, NDAA, U.N. Small arms treaty, paramilitary police forces, DNA swabs on folks arrested/not charged or convicted, 1/6 of economy taken over thru Obozocare....

=’s loss of liberty.

42 posted on 06/04/2013 7:27:17 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: jiggyboy
I followed the case very closely and sent a letter to every politician and police official I could find. This cop obviously got a sweet deal because he threatened to expose higher ups. This was “censored” in the USA and I only find it in UK media.

The story is a lab tech noticed drugs missing/diluted in evidence storage. He/she started microengraving crack rocks with some random identifiers. After a while the lab was getting the same rocks back for new cases. The tech narrowed it down to the cops involved and reported it.

These types of cases happen all the time. I know someone who managed to get video of a cop planting drugs in his car. The case was dismissed but the cop didn't get disciplined at all.

The WOD enables law enforcement to plant a coin sized package on anyone and turn them info a felon at will. I don't understand how so many FReepers don't see this legal barn door...

43 posted on 06/04/2013 7:27:33 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Axenolith

No, it is a detention and no, an officer cannot do a DNA swab on a traffic stop.


44 posted on 06/04/2013 7:36:52 AM PDT by barney10
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To: varyouga

Much obliged. These guys were lucky, given that they had already gotten the full treatment, that it was so widespread that there were even people within the department thinking something was up.

My initial fears remain: if it’s just one guy planting stuff on you once, I don’t know how your word would beat his. Even with little cameras in your car, it would still be luck to actually see or hear the plant as it happened.


45 posted on 06/04/2013 7:41:37 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: relictele

The “grant” comes from traffic fines and not from the state budget.


46 posted on 06/04/2013 7:43:26 AM PDT by barney10
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To: jiggyboy

Your word will never beat a cop’s and they know it.

The mantra inside the NYPD is “do whatever you need to do. Just not on camera”.


47 posted on 06/04/2013 7:44:49 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: AppyPappy

Again, then you should have NO Problem with a house to house round up of these people (similar to recent events in Boston).

MY perceived threats are an over reaching, increasingly totalitarian government.

Let that yoke rest easy on your shoulders.


48 posted on 06/04/2013 7:59:13 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: relictele

most dui checkpoints have “chase vehicles” to go after those who do a u-turn to avoid the hassle or delay.

in the courts you are “guilty until proven guilty”.


49 posted on 06/04/2013 8:09:54 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: barney10

And if 0 drivers are fined as happened here, what then?


50 posted on 06/04/2013 8:10:51 AM PDT by relictele (A place dedicated to economic, racial and social equality. It was called Jonestown.)
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