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Same-Sex Marriage Hits Red Light in Blue Illinois
Townhall ^ | 06/04/2013 | Sandy Rios

Posted on 06/04/2013 8:02:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

What same-sex marriage advocates won in the Illinois Senate on Valentine’s Day 2013 was just reversed. After weeks and months of hard work to accomplish what should have been easy, gay Democrat sponsor Greg Harris could not muster the votes, while Democratic Speaker of the House, Michael Madigan, did not even call for a vote to establish same sex marriage in Illinois.

“Today a broad grassroots coalition of Illinois families of Faith of all creeds and colors took on all the Illinois political bosses from Washington to the Governor’s Mansion to Chicago’s City Hall who tried to pay back the homosexual community for their political support,” said Paul Caprio, Spokesman for the Coalition to Protect Children & Marriage.

Throughout the day, same-sex marriage proponents hammered the Speaker relentlessly, threatening to withhold support for his daughter, Attorney General Lisa Madigan, a gubernatorial hopeful.

Equality Illinois and other groups brought in celebrities and generated thousands of phone calls. Governor Pat Quinn pushed hard, purportedly offering back room deals to members of the Black Caucus. But under the leadership of a former Democrat Senator -- the Reverend James Meeks --and Bishop Lance Davis, black legislators pushed back.

Representative Monique Davis, when asked by the Sun Times if same-sex marriage is a civil rights issue, said, “Have they ever hung from trees? Were they ever slaves for 500 years? Then I don’t think so.”

“I don’t think (the issues are) equal… simple as that,” she explained. “African-American people have the same right to be conservative on issues that everybody else has.”

With Chicago Mayor Rahm Emmanuel, Obama advisor David Axelrod, Republican State Chairman Pat Brady, Republican Senator Mark Kirk, the Chicago media, and hometown favorite President Barack Obama lobbying hard for the measure, it was a stunning defeat.

The battle in Illinois began just before Christmas 2012, when same-sex marriage activists moved to call a vote during the holidays. Twelve family groups quickly formed the “Coalition to Protect Children & Families.” In an unprecedented act of cooperation, the Illinois Family Institute rallied thousands to the capitol and Family PAC made over 600,000 calls into legislative districts.

While pastors held breakfasts, the National Organization for Marriage gave financial support and provided expert testimony in Springfield with Dr. Jennifer Rohrbach Morse on the troubling side of same-sex marriage. Cardinal Francis George wrote and spoke with conviction against the proposal, as did Bishop Thomas John Paprocki of Springfield. Churches rallied and, in spite of the odds, to the surprise of Chicago media and the much better resourced gay lobby, pro-traditional family forces stopped the vote.

In the end, it came down to enormous pressure on twenty black Democratic legislators.

“I think after President Obama came out as a supporter of equal marriage there was a belief that it would be a no-brainer,” Representative Christian Mitchell said. “But I don’t think folks properly understood the influence and role of the church as it relates to African-American politics.”

Illinois is the first state to stop the gay marriage momentum since North Carolina in 2012.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; illinois; samesexmarriage; ssm
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1 posted on 06/04/2013 8:02:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Dirty Little Secret.....the African-American community are STILL not fans of this.


2 posted on 06/04/2013 8:04:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You mean Blacks aren’t happy that gays are equating their cause with black civil rights?


3 posted on 06/04/2013 8:05:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Buckeye McFrog

True, the Black guys I grew up with would actually get more offended and PO’ed being called fags, queers, etc. than by the n word.


4 posted on 06/04/2013 8:07:20 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Turn, tide, turn already.


5 posted on 06/04/2013 8:09:54 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: SeekAndFind
Representative Monique Davis...explained. “African-American people have the same right to be conservative on issues that everybody else has.”

Hallelujah! She thinks! She can separate and compartmentalize! We need more like her!

6 posted on 06/04/2013 8:14:04 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There can be no dialogue with the prince of this world." -- Francis)
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To: SeekAndFind
Representative Monique Davis, when asked by the Sun Times if same-sex marriage is a civil rights issue, said, “Have they ever hung from trees? Were they ever slaves for 500 years? Then I don’t think so.”

Right answer, wrong reason.

There has never been a "right" to marry.

Marriage has historically been an obligation two people undertook prior to engaging in activities that might reasonably be expected to lead to children, for the purposes of maximizing the odds of those children growing up to be productive members of society.

Since nothing two homosexuals can do can be expected to produce children, the whole concept of homosexual "marriage" is null and void.

7 posted on 06/04/2013 8:15:28 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s OK, they’ll get a flaming liberal jurist to impose it on everyone instead.


8 posted on 06/04/2013 8:19:41 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The legislature and governor here (Illinois) has already forced “civil unions” on us, it’s only a matter of time before we have queer marriage.

Any concealed carry law we finally get will be a joke.

In the 37 states where queer marriage was put to a vote by the citizens, it has been defeated. Put it to a vote by the people democrat perverts.


9 posted on 06/04/2013 8:24:07 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: SeekAndFind

The MSM will blackout this story in order to censor the defeat. Only wins for deviants are allowed to be reported.


10 posted on 06/04/2013 8:25:36 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Dirty Little Secret.....the African-American community are STILL not fans of this.

True, in spite of the the thuggery that is so prevalent in black youth gangs a very large segment of the black American community is composed of fundamentalist, bible believing Christians who still believe in the Christian God and His moral laws.

Thank God for those people, they may be the last large group of Americans to stand firm for God's laws when the white population has become almost totally reprobate, and IMHO that day isn't very far off.

11 posted on 06/04/2013 8:33:46 AM PDT by epow
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/04/us-russia-putin-adoption-idUSBRE9530FX20130604


12 posted on 06/04/2013 8:40:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

IIRC, wasn’t there a professor who was African American who got upset about homosexual attraction being compared to race? I think that was in 2007 or 2008. Anyways, I haven’t heard of skin color being a closet condition. It’s not something people have to come out about on a regular basis.


13 posted on 06/04/2013 8:46:06 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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Statement: "Same-Sex Marriage Hits Red Light in Blue Illinois"

Response: It is pleasant to hear of an occasional victory. However, remember the left and its subset, the Sodomites, never give up.

14 posted on 06/04/2013 8:46:56 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: DuncanWaring

Marriage is perhaps, aside from government intrusion, among the biggest cases of surrendering rights a person ever goes through.

When you marry, you surrender your individual ownership of much of your property.

When you marry, you surrender your property to get split up and confiscated from you on conditions of divorce happening.

When you marry, you surrender plenty of leisure and free time for the sake of doing activities that you probably enjoyed doing alone. (Goodbye to playing video games alone for hours on end, because your spouse, and don’t get me started on the children, will demand hours of time out of you, in addition to your work time.)

When you marry, you surrender responsibility for just yourself, you now get held responsible for your spouse, and any children you either have born into the marriage or adopt.

Again, there’s a reason why plenty of people cohabitate, including many homosexual couples nowadays as well, and it’s likely for this very reason that marriage in reality is less a right as opposed to a surrendering of rights and personal freedom that you would otherwise have being single or simply living with your love interest.


15 posted on 06/04/2013 8:53:24 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: SeekAndFind
1619 to 1865 is 500 years?

Liberal math.

16 posted on 06/04/2013 8:55:14 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: epow

Not to be too stereotypical, but sometimes, in King of Prussia and Philadelphia where I have lived for some time, some of the best hospitality I have found was from the sides of town that were overwhelmingly African American.


17 posted on 06/04/2013 8:56:15 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Graybeard58
Any concealed carry law we finally get will be a joke.

Correct! Which is why you should find a qualified gun instructor familiar with Utah's conceal/carry permit requirements and have that person train and certify you for a Utah Conceal/Carry permit.

A little known secret in Illinois' conceal/carry law is that other states conceal/carry permits will be VALID in Illinois.

If you want to avoid the wait to get a conceal/carry permit in Illinois, get trained, qualify for, and apply for a Utah conceal/carry Permit. Illinois will honor it as soon as you get it and as soon as the Illinois law is signed.

Once Quinn signs the Conceal/Carry law (as flawed as it is..) there will be a FLOOD of folks here in Illinois applying for the permit. Having a UTAH permit enables you to conceal/carry right away in Illinois for at least the first year. That'll be plenty of time to formally apply through Illinois while still being able to carry here.

Check out the Illinois State Rifle Association website for the details.

18 posted on 06/04/2013 9:05:24 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SeekAndFind

There are a lot of white politicians that are against SSM as well. If we’re to win this we need a broad outreach across both groups.

The whites, as well as black, politicians against SSM or wavering need data and arguments to back up their positions.

I think the best argument to date is the number of same sex ‘civil unions’ performed since legalization and their current status. The ss civil unions can play an important role in this fight as an indicator of the social effects and true norms of the SS lifestyle.


19 posted on 06/04/2013 9:07:37 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DuncanWaring
Marriage precedes government.
20 posted on 06/04/2013 9:11:12 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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