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Theory of a Diabolical Plot
self | 06/12/2013 | self

Posted on 06/12/2013 6:14:25 AM PDT by seeker41

What if this administration orchestrated "Snowdens NSA Leak" for the purpose of evoking just the reactions being displayed by at least half the US public? Outrage over the spying and invasion of privacy. Patriot Act gets called into question.

Hang on I'm getting there...we beg them to stop spying on us.

The Senate now wants to review the Patriot Act ect...modifies or eliminates certain elements making it fairly innoculous regarding domestic issues.

What if by doing this the administration opens the door really wide enabling a attack that dwarfs 9/11 and blames it those who opposed the NSA spying.

What if "he" never leaves....


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: boundlessinformant; corruption; nsa; spying; vanity
I may get flamed so the suit is zipped tightly.

Think about how evil this administration really is and ask yourself why wouldn't they do this to accomplish thier goals.

1 posted on 06/12/2013 6:14:25 AM PDT by seeker41
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To: seeker41

Someone called Rush yesterday with a very similar theory.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 6:18:06 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: seeker41

Good points! You did not mention “Bush’s Fault” for coming up with the Patriot Act. Obama loves to hide behind GWB!


3 posted on 06/12/2013 6:19:06 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: seeker41

“They” are not that smart.

You are suggesting that:

1) They act tyrannical in order to stir government resent so that...

2) They can repeal all the government control and blame the conservatives so that...

3) we can be attacked worse than 9/11 so that...

4) They can impose more radical tyrannical controls over the USA masses of citizens...

You give them too much credit. They are as they appear, power hungry tyrants. That is all.


4 posted on 06/12/2013 6:19:53 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: seeker41

Wag the Dog....wouldn’t surprise me....It all goes back to “Create a situation(s) that the US emotionally responds with the stated goal of suppressing more freedoms.”

I hope the majority has learned a lesson and in 2014 we can start turning this dilemma we are all in back a round to something more positive...but I’m preparing for worst caase scenario just in case...


5 posted on 06/12/2013 6:22:33 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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To: seeker41

I don’t expect the Senate to do anything on this, at least not real.
Too many Republicans agree with Dems that spying on us is OK.

Spying on us didnt stop that bombing in Boston and they were all over the internet.


6 posted on 06/12/2013 6:22:42 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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We have started looking into places to move overseas where it is cheap to live and will toss our electronic devices. Hate cell phones anyway.


7 posted on 06/12/2013 6:26:52 AM PDT by seeker41 (Take back your country before it is too late-STOP islamic expansion in the USA remove zero)
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To: Tenacious 1

Yeah, if they were really that smart Obama would not be fumbling his way through eight or nine scandals by now.

I’ll stick to the basic Conservative belief that this Government has gotten SO big and SO complex that it cannot be effectively controlled by anyone.


8 posted on 06/12/2013 6:27:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: seeker41

I think they will stage a big attack now in order to get a majority to approve the searches. No need to change the rules to allow the attack. It depends on how much time they want to wait.

In the mean time they will blackmail a few more supremes and congresscritters to make sure their votes mirror the shocked citizens.


9 posted on 06/12/2013 6:31:46 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: seeker41

Pretty close but I believe it’s part of a “conditioned response” to get people to keep repeating over and over again that it’s necessary to fight terrorism to plant into peoples minds Obama is fighting terrorism when in fact Obama, Hillary and the rest of the dems are collaborating with terrorist.

You are right about the terrorist attack, there is a terrorist attack coming down the pike.

I’m expecting one with the Treyvon Martin protestors to touch off race riots throughout the country.


10 posted on 06/12/2013 6:33:37 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: seeker41
RE :”We have started looking into places to move overseas where it is cheap to live and will toss our electronic devices. Hate cell phones anyway.”

Ok Edward, where are you now?

Hong Kong, Moscow, North Korea ???

I like my iphone, I just turn it to airplane mode when I dont want it doing stuff

11 posted on 06/12/2013 6:34:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: seeker41

A lot of us aren’t going anywhere.


12 posted on 06/12/2013 6:37:53 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

We probaby wont either, just dreaming...

Some of us have to fight for our country!


13 posted on 06/12/2013 6:40:04 AM PDT by seeker41 (Take back your country before it is too late-STOP islamic expansion in the USA remove zero)
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To: seeker41

The facts about the Patriot Act blows this theory out of the water, just one question, who wrote the Patriot Act to begin with? And why did Bush support it?

The answer is in this Google search:

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=patriot+act+written+by+joe+biden&oq=patriot+act+written+by%3F&gs_l=hp.1.0.0j0i22i30l2.2938.11362.0.15778.23.12.0.11.11.0.133.882.9j3.12.0...0.0.0..1c.1.17.psy-ab.6iu0od18mD8&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47810305,d.dmQ&fp=e29d4643f523af87&biw=1203&bih=683


14 posted on 06/12/2013 6:45:41 AM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: seeker41

The Patriot Act was written by Joe Biden.


15 posted on 06/12/2013 6:46:11 AM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I’ll stick to the basic Conservative belief that this Government has gotten SO big and SO complex that it cannot be effectively controlled by anyone.

When a fire gets big enough, it starts to feed itself. At that point, it can only be put back under control when it starts to run out of fuel to burn.

Governments run out of fuel too. But when and how much damage is done by the time WE get there?

16 posted on 06/12/2013 6:51:33 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: stockpirate

The government has been turned against the people by the liberal progressives. I have no doubt we the people will have to fight for our freedom in the future unless Obama can be impeached and removed legally under the US Constitution.


17 posted on 06/12/2013 6:52:57 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Get a special prosecutor right now!!!)
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To: seeker41

Good choice.


18 posted on 06/12/2013 6:55:09 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: stockpirate
RE :”And why did Bush support it?

GOP did way more than support the PA.
They used it to win 2002 midterms. Any Dem who voted against it was marked and targeted('so and so is siding with the terrorists').
It was a convenient weapon to use at the time, but by 2006 the tables had turned on Republicans on the issue.

19 posted on 06/12/2013 6:55:32 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: seeker41

You’re getting too bogged down in the details. Here’s the bigger picture.

Whatever action is taken by our leaders in D.C. will be suspect. IF something occurs after that,,the Communist Dems will try to use it for more control. That’s really the bottom line. Don’t overthink it. The Dems will manipulate any and every situation and until proven otherwise, I plan on accusing them of doing just that, every time.


20 posted on 06/12/2013 6:57:46 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: DuncanWaring

A lot of us aren’t going anywhere.
AMEN!

I’m fighting it. If I go down, I’ll choose to go down in my country, fighting for it. There is nowhere on the globe that is immune to power-hungry tyrants.


21 posted on 06/12/2013 6:59:52 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: sickoflibs

Spying on us didnt stop that bombing in Boston and they were all over the internet.

Don’t forget (listen to the Dems to remember this has been going on a LONG time) we’ve had spy networks in place for decades and Clinton passed over the chance to get Bin Laden even when intel had him marked.....


22 posted on 06/12/2013 7:01:21 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Tenacious 1
This has nothing to do with the Patriot Act. This kind of data mining has been going on for decades and the Internet has only helped assemble the data in a finer way.

Nobody should be so surprised at these allegations. The government has been at this since forever. It would be naive to think that all this started after 9/11. It did not start with President Obama, it may have started with President Woodrow Wilson so calm down folks.

We must look at where the line is being drawn between violation of personal liberties and freedoms and safeguarding the US from external or even internal threats.

What we should be asking is how is the data sifted and acted upon. What happened on 9/11, Benghazi and Boston was that the critical information was not quickly passed on, assessed and acted upon. The same conclusions were reached on December 8th 1941.

The US had broken both the Ultra and Purple Codes from the Japanese and Germans yet, the conceptual models and calculations were either inaccurate or ignored and not given the priority they should have gotten.

It is the ITEL, human interpretations, hierarchical and bureaucratic authorities that err each and every time not the massive amounts of data that these folks have to deal with everyday.

23 posted on 06/12/2013 7:01:23 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: austinaero

My working theory is there are enough patriots in intel seeing poshitus about to amass 100% power that We The People cannot overcome, and are helping us out of this nightmare.

You have to ask yourself, in all these revelations, whose ox is being gored the most. So far it’s most of zero’s control apparatus that’s being dragged out into the sunlight.


24 posted on 06/12/2013 7:07:35 AM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: sickoflibs

In airplane mode it just links right to the NSA server...


25 posted on 06/12/2013 7:22:07 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Hardraade
RE :”In airplane mode it just links right to the NSA server...”

LOL, I think not.
There are a few Free apps that monitor battery and data use and you can pretty much tell the phone is cut off in AP mode.

26 posted on 06/12/2013 7:33:03 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: seeker41
Since there is an overall scandal of multiple scandals, while stumbling over the sound of "meta-data-gate," last night I just naturally shortened the term to "metagate."

Seriously, however. It hasn't escaped our notice that the barrage of scandal revelations definitely diverted attention to the Senate's initial cloture exercise, setting up consideration of S 744, the Senate's nation-weakening immigration FUBAR legislation, the so-called "Gang of Eight" initiative.

Either Obama and his henchmen need to create a resonant rallying point ahead of 2014 or, better from their standpoint, continue to legalize their dependent and alien underclass strategy for the decades ahead.

Again, from their standpoint, those goals may override all other concerns.

27 posted on 06/12/2013 7:35:16 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Tenacious 1

I agree with you. Occam’s razor applies.


28 posted on 06/12/2013 8:41:34 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: seeker41

Since 2008 I have maintained that Hussein is a well planned, highly organized terrorist attack against this country. The Saudis who are leading him created the financial meltdown in September, 08 to assure his election. He has followed a roadmap beginning with the takeover of the auto industry, the stimulus, healthcare, gun control, right up to the events we are experiencing today. It has been a systematic coup against the US.


29 posted on 06/12/2013 8:54:23 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

You could be right.


30 posted on 06/12/2013 10:37:55 AM PDT by seeker41 (Take back your country before it is too late-STOP islamic expansion in the USA remove zero)
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